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Tue Jul-26-05 08:37 AM
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OMG This came as an ad in my local Newspaper today. ARMAGEDDON! |
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I was flipping through the ads that came with the newspaper and there was a large, glossy fold out ad stating:
ARMAGEDDON Bible Prophecy Seminar A Bible Prophecy Seminar Coming to CEDAR RAPIDS, IA - JULY 29
It's Near Understanding Revelation An opportunity of a lifetime AN ABSOLUTELY FREE SEMINAR
OPENING NIGHT: Armageddon - Israel on the Edge of Armageddon The last great battle. How near is it? Will the temple be rebuilt in Jerusalem? Who will be involved in this war that will end with the coming of Christ?
SECOND NIGHT: Europe's Last Hour. Europe - Many Tongues - One Voice The unity of Europe with the development of the Common Market will bring about a coalition of nations that will play a major role in the last days. How will affect out lives?
THIRD NIGHT: Mankind's Only Hope
Continuing Presentations -- Time of the Antichrist -- Entrance into God's Kingdom -- Rise of the Beast with Number 666 -- Dead Men do tell tales -- United States in Bible Prophecy -- Adam's Mothers Birthday -- 50,000 Dollars for a Missing Text Where is it at - KENNEDY HIGHT SCHOOL AUDITORIUM - what??? a public school?
But guess what, there will be "Great Gospel Music" and it shows the 7 singers AND Don't forget the Kiddies "Kids for Jesus" FREE with a special, free children's program each night for 1-9 year olds and nursery care.
Prophecy Seminar Speaker - Kenneth Cox. His public ministry has covered most of the world. He has specialized in world history and its relationship to Bible prophecy and current events. He holds degrees in theology and world history and spent the last 35 years studying the Biblical prophecies.
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:40 AM
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1. How did the school become the gathering place for this? |
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that's what every taxpaying person should be asking.
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:42 AM
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2. Oh this isn't suprising |
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I was perusing these sorts of ads in a rural Missouri newspaper twenty-five years ago, and my mom was doing the same twenty five years before that.
It is a scam to bring in Monday, and besides, the RW fundies figure that one of these days they'll get it right.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:45 AM
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28. "It was a scam to bring in Monday" ???????? |
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I hate to quibble, but what does this mean??
Do you mean "money"?? Have we become such poor users of our own language that someone does not know the difference between Monday ( a day of the week) and money (currency, medium of exchange). Or do I just not understand your post???
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:42 AM
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3. Dead Men Do Tell Tales? |
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Now that's interesting. I guess the key is finding the right Dead Man. Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:43 AM
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4. Fear, fear, fear. Gimme money. |
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A high school. I'm sure it's a privately funded school that receives no public tax dollars, right? Right?
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:44 AM
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5. I would complain to your local school board |
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A public school should not be used for such purposes. I have no problem with after-school student groups (even religious ones) using the school premises to meet. But this is outrageous.
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:44 AM
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6. One Night Only! One Night Only! |
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:46 AM
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10. Actually it is multiple nights. Armageddon is just night one! |
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:44 AM
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7. Wonderful! Go there and sell "classic" copies of "Late Great Planet Earth" |
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First editions!
The ones where Hal paints WW3 against the Soviets, and which should have already happened (about 10-15 years ago now).
The best part is: They won't get why it's funny to sell them 30-year-old "the world will end in 20 years" books.
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:45 AM
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8. Not a new a sales pitch |
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The same old TERRA alerts have been a staple of the revival circuit for many a long year. Perhaps you just haven't had one in your neighborhood.
Repent! The Hour of JUDGEMENT Cometh (My sermon to George W. Bush and the BushCo Cabal)
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:46 AM
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9. Protest sign: LEFT BEHIND = MOONIES in FUNDIE CLOTHING |
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THEY ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY AND YOUR LIVES
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:46 AM
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11. If you believe the Bible, no man knows the time, place, hour, etc. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:47 AM by woodsprite
People who tell you they do, do not believe or know the Bible. My little 5yo can parrot that back to any so called religious leader who he runs across. Our minister agreed with him and said he had been taught the truth. That's how we knew our new minister fit in so well with us. ;)
I grew up in an end time prophecy, fire and brimstone preaching, fundie church. It's scary. I'm glad I escaped when I did, but for about 4 yrs while I was a kid, I was on nerve meds because I had a hard time dealing with being away from my family to go to school, over to friends houses, to camp or sleepovers. All because I thought the world would come to an end and I wouldn't be with them. I had to unlearn that crap and seeing adds for people that prey on people like that makes me really angry.
Anybody think that if we were experiencing more prosperous peaceful times (ala Clinton w/o the Monica scandal) that there'd be less interest from the general population in joining these crackpot groups?
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Tue Jul-26-05 08:48 AM
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12. "AN ABSOLUTELY FREE SEMINAR" |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:48 AM by jim3775
That doesn't sound like a scam. :sarcasm:
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:36 AM
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22. But any donations would be appreciated, |
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and please visit our vendor booths for overpriced prophecy crap, now available on DVD and VHS!
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:15 PM
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That's how they make their money. My church does that too (contributions). You never have to of course. VERY VERY VERY VERY rarely they'll have something sold supporting someone who works with our church or something (like a dvd or book). It's a pretty rare thing for us. Other wise people just give money if they want.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:01 AM
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13. This is absolutely disgusting that a public school would |
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consent to this type of propaganda. I'd be at the school with anyone else that I could find who's against this.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:02 AM
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I've always said that if the end of the world is gonna happen, I wanna see it.
And of course, armageddon has to start with a big war that everyone knows is going to happen, but God in his omnipitence is somehow powerless or unwilling to stop. Global war...end of the world...oh, just have faith, He just has a big plan that we couldn't possibly understand anyway.
"Free childrens program"...awesome.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:06 AM
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is a place, not an event.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:10 AM
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and how come pretty much everyone thinks it is an event?
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:38 AM
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23. "Armageddon" is really the ancient abandoned town of Meggido in Israel. |
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In ancient times it was frequently fought over due to its advantageous position on a plateau overlooking a fertile plain. I guess it made sense to the authors of the Bible that the final battle between good and evil would take place there.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:41 AM
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24. Supposedly it is a corruption of Al Meggido |
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a caravan crossroads in the middle-east where there had been several frightful battles. It was a natural place for armies to meet - Israelis, Egyptians, Hittites, Assyrians, Canaanite, Babylonians. Just about anybody who was anybody had a battle there at one time or another.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:06 AM
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16. Sounds like a good old fashioned revival, to me-- |
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:07 AM
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17. Same story over and over |
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"The unity of Europe with the development of the Common Market will bring about a coalition of nations that will play a major role in the last days."
30 years ago they were saying the Soviet Union was the "coalition" of nations that would welcome the anti-Christ...
Before that, it was Hitler.
One Christian sect thinks that Bush's Iraq coalition is going to usher in the anti-Christ.
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:21 PM
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 11:23 PM by FreedomAngel82
I never take these things seriously. Jesus tells us in the scriptures that we won't know and it'll be "like a thief in the night". :eyes: People have been probably thinking it was the end of the world since WWI or something. Oh and also at my grandparents (well now my grandmother's) church they started their gospel meeting and preacher James Watkins was there and talked a little bit about dying and going back to God etc. and he was telling how flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom of God. So bodies won't be brought up. We'll all just die and join those who have gone before us.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:13 AM
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19. Go there with a sign that says... |
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Deuteronomy 18:20-22
I'm sure the people attending will have their bibles with them and can look it up.
Those verses deal with the subject of false prophets. They're also handy for pissing off Jehovah Witnesses when you point out all the times their church elders have said the world would end but didn't.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:14 AM
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20. When did this insanity become acceptable. |
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It used to be that the end of the world types were on the fringe and considered kooks. Now it's as if they are the popular norm. :crazy: :eyes:
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:17 AM
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21. I need a sticker: "Hey, Fundamentalists: go Rapture yourselves!" |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:59 PM
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33. Well I'm not a fundamentalist...but I do believe in the rapture |
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I don't think everyne who believes in the rapture should be labeled as a fundamentalist. It's extemeley unfair and disingenuous.
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:27 PM
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on what you think the rapture means to you. Does it mean freaky dead bodies raising from the dead and going to Heaven or what? Not to me. Bodies erode and die. Flesh and blood can not enter Heaven like some people think. We'll all die and our bodies will return to the dirt and dust as the Bible mentions. To me the rapture is a hope that one day we can all return to God and be forgiven etc.
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Wed Jul-27-05 06:04 PM
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The Rapture is very well, and the scripture tells us that the dead in Christ will first, and those of us who are living, and are saved, will be caught up with them together, to meet the Lord in the air. Here is the exact scripture:
1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17
"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
This is what thus saith the Lord, and this is what I believe.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:42 AM
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Can tinfoil hats be made thick enough to form a good helmet? Cause the ppl that run this seminar wear em proudly it appears.
:tinfoilhat:
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:23 AM
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26. Theological cartoons. But, not funny. |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:30 AM
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No worries for 5 years. Live it up!
Visited the Kenneth Cox ministries site. Found this on the front page:
>>Our goal for the next five years is to share this message of Jesus' Ministry in Heaven.<<
However, if the site hasn't been updated in 4 years 11 months, and 3 weeks...
:hi: wave bye-bye :nuke:
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:50 AM
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29. same crap 25 years ago |
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These end of the world fear-mongers have been pushing this Revelations hokey since the late seventies in my area of the country.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:49 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:53 PM
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31. I guess they missed the part |
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where Jesus said the end of the world will come like a thief in the night. In English: we DON'T/WON'T KNOW!! :eyes:
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:56 PM
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32. So what is the issue here? |
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I see no problem with this Seminar.
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:01 PM
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Let me let you all know that you can rest assured, as Satan's LEFT hand man, that she (yes, SHE!) has NO PLANS for Armageddon ANY time soon! Chirst on a pancake, why should Satan...after all, BUSHitler is fucking shit up MORE THAN SATAN EVER COULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Oh please, give me the Satan's worshipping family down the street, you know, the one with the GOOD ALBUMS!" -- Bill Hicks.
"Satan is the BEST FRIEND the Church has ever had, for he has kept it in business all these years!" -- Anton LaVey, 9th of the 9 Satanic Statemtent, from "The Satanic Bible"
"Without Hell, your religion IS NOT WORTH A DAMN!" -- Anon.
Also, whoever is giving out those annoying 10 COMMANDMENT signs here in Okeechobee, please LICK ME. Ya know damn well if I put up a sign with THE 9 SATANIC STATEMENTS <i>ANYWHERE</i> in this country, it would have BULLET HOLES in it within 3 hours! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TOLERANCE AND IMPOSSING RELIGION EVERYWHERE!
Lu Cifer, ok, time to crank up some Rob Zombie, Electric Hellfire Club, and maybe some Deicide just to be sure!
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:32 PM
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39. You're right about the Ten Commandments |
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If religious fundies want the Ten Commandments put up EVERYWHERE anyone who objects is "persecuting" them and what they believe etc. But we all know what would happen if a Jew, Muslim, Pagan or even a Santanist wanted to put something up like that in the courts. :eyes: They all claim "it's part of our history!" Well so is the Jewish religion and Muslims and Pagans and Santanist. They've been around just as long. Free mason's and the like. If Christians are "persecuted" in this country then I'm Jane Fonda.
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:48 PM
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41. start a counter project.....post the Beatitudes everywhere |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 11:50 PM by bobbieinok
1Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2and he began to teach them saying:
3"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. 10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mathew 5
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:24 PM
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37. Check out this month's Harper's |
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 11:54 PM by OrwellwasRight
It's got a great article about how American Christianity has got it all wrong. It is all about self-help and the end of the world and 0% about Jesus (you know, the love thy neighbor as thyself stuff). I highly recommend it.
Anyway, here the original post is an example of this theory in action.
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Tue Jul-26-05 11:33 PM
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I've noticed people like James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and the like NEVER quote anything from the gospel books. I've never heard them. The gospel books are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John which tell about Jesus.
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Wed Jul-27-05 12:06 AM
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42. A rich man came to Jesus one day and asked what he should do to get into |
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Heaven.
Jesus said sell what you have, give the money to the poor, and follow me.
But the Christian Coalition's top legislative priority this year is making the Bush tax cuts permanent.
WTF is wrong with this picture?
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