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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:33 AM
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Need your help...I need links about the new torcher photos ASAP!!!!
Just got off the phone w\ my reps office (Repub). The girl that answers the phone new nothing of the new photos. She was shocked. She begged me to send her links about this. Please send me any links that have anything to do with the new torcher photos, rape, and anything by the ACLU trying to get the word out, about it, and anything about the FOIA request.. Please. I've been friendly with this girl for awhile (I call the office alot), and she really wants to know about this. Please help me, we could bring her to our side. Please.
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:39 AM
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1. I bet google has the torture information..
Just a hint but I bet you can find a wealth of information on google about the pentagon not releasing the torture photos.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:41 AM
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2. Here's two (lots more if you do a search after you donate):
Pentagon Defies Order to Release Photos; 2,000 Veterans Call for Independe
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=50803


WASHINGTON, July 25 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Veterans for Common Sense (VCS), a nonpartisan veterans' organization with 12,000 members, called for a commission to investigate torture allegations today, in response to the Pentagon refusal to release photos and videos from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

In an open letter, signed by more than 2,000 veterans and supporters (including 5 flag-rank officers and more than 200 commissioned officers), the veterans urged Congress and the President to "commit -- immediately and publicly -- to support the creation of an independent commission to investigate and report on the detention and interrogation practices of U.S. military and intelligence agencies deployed in the war on terror."

Charles Sheehan-Miles, a 1991 Gulf War veteran and the group's executive director, said, "Once again the administration is fighting to prevent any possible public accountability for its policies, instead choosing to blame it all on the troops. To court-martial privates while high ranking officials get promoted is damaging to the very principle of command responsibility and undermines the U.S. military." Veterans for Common Sense is co-plaintiff in a lawsuit filed by a coalition of human rights and civil liberties groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights. The lawsuit has generated thousands of pages of documents in the last year documenting torture, abuse and in some cases murder in U.S. detention centers.

Individuals who have seen the photos and videos, including some members of Congress and journalist Seymour Hersh, have reported they include scenes far worse than anything released from Abu Ghraib thus far, including rape and the videotaped beating of a prisoner. The courts had ordered the Pentagon to release the photos by Friday, July 22, but the Pentagon filed a last minute brief attempting to block their release.

More at link

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Bush Administration Files 11th Hour Papers Blocking the Release of Darby CD Photos and Video Of Abu Ghraib Torture


Synopsis

On July 22, the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) denounced the latest efforts of the Bush Administration to block the release of the Darby photos and videos depicting torture at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison facility. On June 2, 2004, CCR, along with the ACLU, Physicians for Human Rights, Veterans for Common Sense, and Veterans for Peace filed papers with the U.S. District Court, charging the Department of Defense and other government agencies with illegally withholding records concerning the abuse of detainees in American military custody. Since then, the organizations have been repeatedly rebuffed in their efforts to investigate what happened at the prison.



In June, the government requested and received an extension from the judge stating that they needed time in order to redact the faces of the men, women and children believed to be shown in the photographs and videos. They were given until today to produce the images, but at the eleventh hour filed a motion to oppose the release of the photos and videos, based on an entirely new argument: they are now requesting a 7(F) exemption from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act to withhold law enforcement-related information in order to protect the physical safety of individuals. Today’s move is the latest in a series of attempts by the government to keep the images from being made public and to cover up the torture of detainees in U.S. custody around the world.

Joseph Darby was the U.S reservist who turned over the photos and videos to U.S. Army officials and touched off the Abu Ghraib scandal in April 2004.

“This is absolutely unacceptable,” stated Michael Ratner, President of the Center for Constitutional Rights. “We can not move forward from this scandal until we have a full public accounting and independent investigation into what happened at Abu Ghraib. The government cannot continue to hide evidence of torture. The time to release these photos and videos was a long time ago.”

more...

http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/reports/report.asp?ObjID=imOUU...



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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:06 AM
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6. The bottom link won't work for me, am I doing something wrong? n/t
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:46 AM
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3. Here's one on Yahoo
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:53 AM
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4. i heard that there are videos of a small girl tortured to death being cut
up with a chain saw for convent disposal.. and child rapes, how many weren't photographed, or recorded, how many children are in a shallow grave in the desert? How many children, women, men were tortured, raped and murdered so we could be free..?? and you need to count the ones we bombed and killed outside of the torture and rape rooms.


BUSH LIED and children got raped and cut up with chain saws..



we hired some of Saddam's torture people as contractors.. which are protected by executive orders against prosecution.

do you think AlQuida will effect revenge on us our allies and anyone who supports us in any way for this..?? will we all burn in hell for not protesting..??
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:01 AM
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5. You're not bushing us, are you?
...children got raped and cut up with chain saws..

F*ck! No wonder the release of these photos are being so vehemently blocked. If these got out into the world community, there will be hell to pay!
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:31 AM
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7. Video and transcript
of Hersh talk here (video only streaming, not downloadable)

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article6492.htm

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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:34 AM
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8. And from NYT
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 10:45 AM
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9. they set someone on fire?
?
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