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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:12 PM
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Leaks and the leaking leakers who leak them . . .
I find it very interesting that Fitzgerald was able to keep the investigation so completely leak free for two years and now seems to have completely lost control.

What's up with that? Two years of total silence and now there is a leak a day from staff, administration insiders, witnesses and just about everybody.

Anyone care to speculate?
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:13 PM
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1. He grew
a large set of testicles?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:14 PM
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2. All of teh recent leaks have come from Rove and Rove's attorney
There are no leaks coming from fitzgerald.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:19 PM
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4. Not sure about that. There are some that address things from
inside the Grand Jury. Nothing specific which is illegal, but generic questions about discrepancies in testimony from Rove/Libby and others.

I can't see the benefit of those leaks to Rove.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:25 PM
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6. EVER Y leak to date has been to the benefit of Rove
What's your agenda?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:38 PM
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7. I have no agenda, just curious what other DUer think about the
sudden release of inside information after two years of silence.

I don't see how all the leaks are in Rove's favor. I welcome your discussion of how the rumors of perjury help him out or how the memo marked Secret, or the 12 hour head's up work in the administration's favor.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:45 PM
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9. None of what you have cited was leaked by the grand jury or
the prosecutors office.

Rumors of perjury come from what Rove has stated and what Luskin has stated.

The Memo being marked Secret comes from the State Department.

The 12 hours heads up comes from Gonzales.

Again, what's your agenda?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:54 PM
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10. Again, I have no agenda.
I am well aware that neither the Grand Jury nor the Prosecutor's office has leaked anything. Leaks are coming from people who have heard testimony--clerks or aids or the like.

For two years there were no leaks from anyone to speak of. Now it's one a day almost. What's changed? Why are people who wouldn't speak before willing to speak now? Asking strictly for speculation here.

So, Walt, why are you ascribing some agenda to the question?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 02:05 PM
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12. "clerks or aids or stuff
Nothing you cited came from clerks, aids, GJ testimony, or "stuff". EVERYTHING comes from outside the courtroom. EVERYTHING.

Again, what's your agenda?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 02:15 PM
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13. I have no agenda, but am becoming more and more curious about yours.
I'm quitting before the moderators lock this thing up.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 02:18 PM
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14. Probably what should ahve happened from the outset
Bogus claims that are not backed up with fact should not be posted.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:18 PM
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3. There are some plumbing issues coming from the White House
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 01:18 PM by dave29
Fitz is not responsible for any of the leaks. Nobody knows where he is going with the case. White House is convicting themselves in the process.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:22 PM
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5. I think you are right, Fitzgerald is clean on any dissemination of
information. He has a really good reputation for being a stand up guy.

What I find interesting is that every speaks on the condition of anonymity because the "prosecutor has instructed not to speak of the investigation" It worked for two years, why not now?
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:40 PM
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8. well as far as i know the leaks haven't come from the
court itself - only people who've spoken to the courts.


and why now? because it took the Supremes turning away the case to get it the heck out of appeals, and tossy judy in the slammer.


now that's a story.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:56 PM
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11. Judy going to jail really did give the White House press corps
a spine. Nothing like having your own ox gored to stir the blood in your veins.

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