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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:23 PM
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Was looking at a translation of the Koran online...
I'm not certain if this is a "good" translation, but towards the end is this:

The Disbelievers
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

<109.1> Say: O unbelievers!
<109.2> I do not serve that which you serve,
<109.3> Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
<109.4> Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
<109.5> Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
<109.6> You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

Wow.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:25 PM
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1. Lot of pronouns in that verse
But that last line comes through crystal clear.
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:29 PM
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2. that sounds downright reasonable
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:34 PM
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3. Something you may be interested in..
http://www.religioustolerance.org/comp_isl_chr.htm

Comparing and contrasting Christianty and Islam in an easy chart.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:41 PM
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6. That's quite interesting -
I'd say they're quite closely balanced in some ways.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:36 PM
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4. There's dodgy stuff in most holy books:
"11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts".

EXODUS.


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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:36 PM
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5. link, please?
thanks
:)
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:43 PM
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7. No problem!
Specific verse:
<http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=968503>

Main page:
<http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/>

If that doesn't work, I did a google search for "koran" and it's the very first link that came up.

I also found another website which aligns three seperate translations together line by line:

<http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/>

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 04:58 PM
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8. This is a dodgy road to go down -
a lot of vile anti-Semitism is based on finding violent or disagreeable passages in the Jewish holy books (which don't forget are what Christianity and Islam are based on to some extent).
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:04 PM
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9. The Koran Online
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:14 PM
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10. How about this passage?
“Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians--whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right--shall have nothing to fear or to regret.” (5.69)

or this:

“Among His other wonders are the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your tongues and colors.” (30.21)

or this:

"For every one of you We have ordained a law and a way. Had God pleased, He could have made you one community: but it is His wish to prove you by that which He has bestowed upon you. Vie (as in a race) with one another in good works, for to God you shall all return and He will explain for you your differences." (5.48)

one more:

“O humanity! Truly We created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you might know each other. Truly the most honored of you in the sight of God is the most God-conscious of you. Truly God is knowing, Aware” (49.13).
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