My skin crawls when I'm around Republicans. I do

[Dees]

everything I can to avoid the toads and still get caught in a circle of them. I'm thinking...what grotesque thoughts are in their narrow little minds and stop treating me like I'm a dollar sign. Ever feel completely out of sync around a group of people. Humorless bone heads. My skin crawls just knowing they voted for Daddy Warbucks and his monkey on a string.

[jean]

1. yup. some people fseem alien, not human - it's in the eyes, no warmth

[FiveGoodMen]

2. This is how I feel every day of every week.

Worst is when I have to deal with -- gag -- FAMILY members who are part of this grotesque tragedy.

[Wetzelbill]

7. I'm lucky my family isn't like that

they aren't particularly well informed but they are diehard Dems.

[FiveGoodMen]

11. My parents were religiously conservative, but

understood that to mean that they should emulate Jesus. As a result, they switched from Republican to Democrat -- and that was long before the current crop of Repubs reared their ugly heads.

But they're both gone now and my extended family are mostly the awful kind of fundies.

[Wetzelbill]

17. my Grandfather on my dad's side is very religious

and worked in politics, first as our tribal chairmen, then as President of the National Congress of American Indians and finally as an Indian Liaison in DC. He was hardcore Dem, to the bone. Being a Repub in my family is basically being a traitor. One of my Uncles became a repub for a while and worked in the Montana Cabinet as Secretary of Indian Affairs or something like that for a Republican governor. Wow, was he ever resented for that, to this day nobody - it is underlying - would ever trust him. My cousin married the daughter of a very Conservative MT SC justice and nobody trusts that guy anymore either, lol. He pulled some stuff on my family recently and one of my Uncles quipped:" We should've known that guy's true colors when he married a Republican." LOL. On my mom's side they are all Dems too. We're all from the Blackfeet Indian Reservation, so, for the most part, minorities are pretty solid Dems. I know my whole family is, we are all total JFK loving Dems. They aren't all into politics like I am, but their heart is right where it needs to be. I'm just sad our party has lost it's true Dem ways, because lots of loyal, hardworking people like my relatives deserve better for their support.

[FiveGoodMen]

19. Sounds like a great family to be part of.

[Wetzelbill]

21. from that standpoint it is

It's a really great family. Bitter in fighting though, for various other reasons. I keep my distance when necessary. :)

[Ladyhawk]

37. Yeah, tell me about it. Tonight I have no words. n/t

[fudge stripe cookays]

3. Every day when I go to work....

These are telecom engineers, in a field that's been decimated during the last 5 years, jobs outsourced out the ass, and the fucking morons still voted for the guy.

Hey...why should they worry about their ex-coworkers who are now struggling by as cashiers at Home Depot and Wal-MArt because they're overqualified and have been out of work for two years or more? Gays can't marry, fetuses have more protections than ever before, and they've got a yellow ribbon on their Suburban. They've got theirs. Fuck everybody else.

FSC

[TomClash]

4. Today the Limbaugh fascist idiot in the office next to me

was ranting that Wes Clark "was ignorant of the Geneva Convention" because he said "we violated it" at Abu Ghraib.

I can't even laugh at the stupidity anymore.

[stepnw1f]

9. Anyone Listening to Limbaugh or Watching Fox is...

completely misinformed. To get into a argument, you have to educate them. The sad part is they actually believe the shit their fed, on top of their arogance and stuborness.

[Wetzelbill]

18. Well, part of the problem is facts don't faze people like that

I always use this analogy. If one of them said that oranges are the color red, then you showed them and orange and it wasn't red they would say" Well, that's because the Librul Media is biased against red oranges."

You can't convince somebody something if they just don't want to believe otherwise. It's impossible to do.

[stepnw1f]

26. The Danger of Belief

It's pure fanaticism. I really wish it weren't. I know this country and it's people are smarter than this.

[TomClash]

28. It's true - that's why I don't talk politics in my office anymore

[The Doctor.]

15. He's bought the 'unlawful combatants' bullshit Rush spews...

Drop this on his desk some day with the bold part highlighted;

"Unlawful combatant (also illegal combatant or unprivileged combatant) describes a person who engages in combat without fulfilling the conditions that confer lawful combatant status according to the laws of war.

The "Detaining Power" may choose to accord detained unlawful combatants the rights of prisoners of war as described in the Third Geneva Convention (GCIII), but is not required to do so. Unlawful combatants may retain rights under the Fourth Geneva Convention in that they must be "treated with humanity and, in case of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial".

The phrase "unlawful combatant" does not appear in GCIII; nor does the word "combatant." However, Article 4 of GCIII does describe categories of persons who are entitled to prisoner of war status. "Prisoner of war" is generally synonymous with "detained lawful combatant." If there is doubt about whether persons have fulfilled the conditions that confer prisoner of war status, Article 5 of the GCIII states that their status may be determined by a competent tribunal."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

Don't give him the link. Even though these types loathe doing actual research, it's best not to give him a direct line to language he can selectively parse.

These people will ignore anything that might prove them wrong.

So drop it anonymously on his desk and hope you're not the only one in the office well known for your positions.


{oe}- Oh yeah... and if he does get bombastic about it, tell him that he should write a letter to Clark explaining that he understands international law better than a Four Star General does.
And tell him to send it certified mail so he can prove he's got the 'Brass' to do it.

[insane_cratic_gal]

16. Limbaugh only quotes the Geneva convention (s)

that prove his point.

There are what? 143 different articles relating to POW's alone. Gives him lots of wiggle room to twist the truth.

There are at least 4 different Geneva too aren't there?

We've violated it, look at Abu they aren't getting chicken boiled dinner

[wookie294]

5. I confess

I look at Republicans the same way the KKK looks at African Americans. I hide my intolerance of them in the same way average Republicans hide their intolerance of African Americans. I loathe people who voted for Bush. I am indeed a Bush hater. Proudly so!

[Wetzelbill]

6. oh I know

One of my best friends is a Republican. If I hadn't known him for years we wouldn't be friends since the Iraq War. No way. We get in a million arguments and make up about a million times in just one phone call, haha. He routinely calls me drunk at like 2 or 3 AM and wants to talk politics. He did last night, in fact.

But, by and large, they make me feel uncomfortable. Some talk about things like internment and stuff that is pretty off the wall. The Right-Wing fringe of the party is just too large and too scary for my taste. It creeps me out. Most Bush voters, my opinion of the average ones is just, well, to put it nicely somewhere between, damn you people are ignorant and how could you be so fucking dumb?

[FiveGoodMen]

14. My best friend from the 80's supported the first gulf war

on the theory that the US needed to get over Vietnam so why not kill some Arabs. I tried to get her to say that she was kidding, but she wasn't.

I've only spoken to her a couple of times in the last 15 years.

[Wetzelbill]

20. wow, that is pretty wild

I'm not fundamentally opposed to war myself. There is a time and place to fight. But her reason for that is just completely nutty.

You never know where these people will pop up either. Could be anybody. That's what makes me anxious about it all.

[RagAss]

33. Interesting

I also view the Republicans as being made up of two distinct groups.

1. Those who always were Republican.(Conservative or Moderate and all that goes along with the history of those particular factions).

and

2. The 9/11 Right Winger, who was never able to fully recover from the fear and panic that we all felt on that tragic day in 2001. To them the struggle is a personal/clinical one. One that will be with them, I fear, for many years to come.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. I try not to be that way

Especially living here in the south when you're surrounded by people who voted for Bush. My dad, my cousin's, my aunts, my uncle's, my friends and associates I care about. I'm working on my dad though. ;) I fill him in on things and get him to watch the Daily show so he can get fair and balanced news (real fair and balanced) and all that. My mom and my grandparents both voted for Kerry and my Mom doesn't like republican politicians. I was once telling her about all the crap about Arnold and she was like "that's how all republicans are." ;) One of my favorite relatives (my uncle on my dad's side) didn't vote for either Bush or Kerry (he called them both fools which did kinda make me mad about Kerry but happy about Bush haha).

[Dees]

10. Here ya go...

This took place just a few nights ago. Young smart modern conservative approaches me. He said...And I understand your career was in developing your own business..I said that's right. And how did that go....I said..how did what go? He...I understand you did very very well. I said...well enough to pay my employees very well with full benefits for substantial amount of time..He said...Oh

[Swamp Rat]

12. THEY are everywhere!

:D

[AtomicKitten]

13. I know exactly how you feel.

I haven't seem my family since the late 1990s. After the election was stolen from Al Gore in 2000, I think I might have punched one my Republican relatives in the face just because. I have a fundie sister who is a huge James Dobson fan, and, you know, I'd have to kill her or at least seriously maim her. No doubt about it. Seriously, I would be moved to violence in a heartbeat if they even opened their mouth.

[DemonFighterLives]

22. Welcome to DU!

Better to stay away from any repukes. The ones I know are still defending the war and are preparing to vote for Condi.
:nuke:

[AtomicKitten]

29. yes ...

I'd be forced to use the nuclear option!

Thanks for the welcome.

[area51]

30. OT

I love your username. :evilgrin:

[wli]

23. they're like pod people or something

It's horrifying.

[Individualist]

24. My sentiments exactly

They make my skin crawl.

[Catholic Sensation]

25. I KNOW!

:eyes:

Posts like these show how the difference between closed-minded liberals and closed-minded conservatives is only who the target of their closed-mindedness is. The lack of intelligence exhibited by both is exactly the same.

[Dees]

32. I guess your axiom applies to closed minded progressives as well.

Lets all embrace and talk about R.O.I.'s (return on investments)

[crowcalling]

27. I know what you mean

However, as long as I am not locking horns regarding their double-speak anti-christ ramblings, I just find my Republican associates boring. That's right boring! I mean if I wanted to hear shallow meaningless chit-chat I would have switched on FOX News!

Try having a conversation regarding anything more involved than what they might have for dinner that evening and you are going to get blank stares.

Yawn....

Waste of Time.

[Hello_Kitty]

31. The "economic" ones are the worst IMO

At least with the fundies you know that they've been suckered. But I've met a few * voters who know exactly what the neo-cons are up to and either don't care or gleefully support it. I talked to one guy who, I swear to god, told me that he wanted to see this country returned to the way it was prior to the turn of the last century. No public schools. No social services. An elite group of industrialists running everything. Survival of the fittest. That's what he said. And he meant every word. :scared:

[Straight Shooter]

34. New neighbors across the street. Yellow ribbon magnets on all vehicles.

And there's just ... something about them. I can't describe it. I get this ... weird feeling.

Yes, they make my skin crawl. I want to slap all bushies and ask them what in God's name gives them the right to condemn so many thousands of people to hell on earth? Who the f*ck died and made bush king?

[proud patriot]

35. bummer

[Ksec]

36. My Mother who is now a healthy 80 yrs old is a convert

After all these years she has switched over to our side. I talked with her today and she confessed that the direction of the GOP was just too much for her and she decided to come over to our side. It warmed my heart. Im still smiling.

She never was a rabid thug but she did vote for them because she wrongly believed they were on her side. Now if I can just convert my neoknuckleheaded brother who is a bible thumper down in Georgia. Thats gonna be a hard sell and I havent made a dent in years.

[rainman99]

38. Yes, and I'm around them all day.

I work for them and they want me to put something about Bush
being wonderful in the newsletter I publish. I can't do it.
I'll probably get fired but like you say, my skin is crawling
and I can't do it.