Women who hate men, when they need a strong arm they ask....

[readmylips]

our husbands to bail them out. This pisses me off. I know lots of women who hate men, don't want to be committed or claim they are too independent, until they need help moving something heavy at their homes. Then, they got the balls to ask other women's husbands to help them out. My girlfriend has this false 'independence' attitude. She's traveled, worldly, stylish, sex goddess, etc. When she has a financial problem, health or whatever problem, she runs to us 'the married relationship committed non independent' friends and family members to bail her out.

My married friends and I got together and told her to get a husband. We will not allow her to take advantage of our husbands ever again. We work hard for the independence and family unity of our families and marriages, and we would not have it any other way. The only independence this woman has is the arrogance of taking advantage of our good hearts. Go rent yourself a husband....

[eleny]

1. You know "lots" of women like that?

I don't. Really, I don't.

[bitchkitty]

2. Jesus Christ.

Why don't you tell your husband to say no?

"Get yourself a husband". Ridiculous, infuriating.

[enki23]

3. i'm gonna go make some popcorn

i'm sure you'll get exactly what this flamebait is asking for.

[Mandate My Ass]

4. they got the balls to ask other women's husbands to help them

Dem ain't broads.

[gkhouston]

6. neither, I'm guessing, is the OP

nice flamebait. :hi:

[Mandate My Ass]

7. LOL

too funny.:toast:

[noiretextatique]

9. LMAO

:popcorn: this should be good

[Mandate My Ass]

21. I'm getting a divorce-I must be a man hater

and you, well....:evilgrin:

[noiretextatique]

66. why would i bother calling someone's husband...

when i have me...and my female friends :evilgrin:
we must *really* be independent because we never call someone's husband over to do things for us.
if i needed a plumber...i'd call kristen.
if i needed a car repair...i'd call pamela.
if i needed to move something heavy and couldn't do it by myself :eyes:...i'd call kristen and pamela.
if one of my friends needs something assembled or help with a stereo system or computer...they call me.
we pretty much have everything covered in our circle of friends...from nursing to construction :D

[Mandate My Ass]

84. One of my best friends

is a single, independent sex goddess type who builds rooms in her house and all the men go to her for carpentry advice.

At least that's their story, and they're sticking to it. :o

[Kalish]

5. Isn't there a 'rent a husband' service?

[pitohui]

8. wives have always been threatened by the unattached 'sex goddess'

it were ever thus

jealousy does not make you more attractive to your husband

if she is your girlfriend, fine way to show it

no harm in hubby moving a heavy box once in awhile

[smirkymonkey]

10. Oh dear.

You're a guy, aren't you?

[ProfessorPlum]

11. That'll fix her!

/sarcasm

[Straight Shooter]

12. Wow.

Sounds to me like your husband has his work cut out for him at home. Probably good idea not to add any more to his labor.

[bitchkitty]

13. And furthermore -

I feel sorry for your husband. And if he's fooling around with this woman (as I suspect), it serves you right for being so OBTUSE. If this turns into a fight for your husband, she'll win, believe it. Because she is, in your words, "traveled, worldly, stylish, sex goddess, etc." I think a man would find this type of woman TONS more interesting than a pack of jealous witches. Instead of worrying about what she's up to, worry about what you're up to - do you really want to be the kind of woman who has nothing better to contribute on a political message board than this STUPID topic?

Go rent yourself a husband...why should she? She's got yours, and you make it so easy.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

14. Wow, how sad. I haven't seen this much jealousy since high school.

:popcorn:

[The Great Deceiver]

34. scoot over!

any popcorn left for me? :popcorn:

this is ... well ... it should be a hoot!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

50. I can't decide if it's deliberate flamebait or we have a self-hating woman

on our hands.

:popcorn: :beer:

[MissB]

52. I vote

both.

[The Great Deceiver]

58. or

a woman-hating woman? it's a first for me. :shrug:

:popcorn: :beer:

[noiretextatique]

104. i know some of them

mind if i join y'all? :popcorn: :beer: :smoke:

[Lerkfish]

15. LOL. I have an observation...

Because I work with and know a great many strong, empowered women married or not, but there is one thing I've noticed:

When it is pouring down rain, it is ALWAYS the husband who is told to go get the car for the wife...no matter how much of a feminist she is, she NEVER offers to get the car for the husband. Further, if in a group with single women, married women and married men and single men, the same still holds: ALL the women expect the men to go out in the driving rain to get the car.

that always cracks me up. I usually try to convince the most feminist member to go get the car, and I get a dirty look for doing so.

Don't get me wrong, I consider myself a feminist male, I just find that traditional gender roles are dusted off and used in those situations, even if the people normally eschew traditional roles.

On the other hand, to your original post, I have often been the "borrowed" husband, by single neighbors in apt. buildings. It doesn't bother me that much as long as it isn't frequently abused.

I remember one night in Tucson, at 3 am the single woman neighbor called me and woke me to come over and kill a really BIG spider. I walked over barefoot and nearly stepped on it as I walked in. ONLY, it wasn't a spider, it was a SCORPION!!!!
I ended up spraying it with spray starch (the only aerosol she had handy) and smashing it with one of her shoes.

LOL.

[gkhouston]

24. I'll call bullshit on that one

since I got my ass drenched fetching the car last Friday evening. Or maybe I'm just not empowered...

[Lerkfish]

41. not bullshit.

just my personal observation. If you had been with me, my observation would have including that difference.


maybe I shouldn't have made such an absolute statement, or qualified it with a "in my personal experience"

but I did not lie, which your post seems to imply

[gkhouston]

88. I'll grant it as a personal experience

just not the kind I've had. Nice of you to deal with the "spider". :rofl:

[readmylips]

25. This woman has nothing over me...this is about respect...

which she does not have for men nor marriage.

[Lerkfish]

51. did you mean to post this to my post?

because if so, I don't understand the relevance?
I wasn't saying anyone had anything over you, or someone's respect or lack thereof of marriage.

Maybe I don't understand your comment.

[Orsino]

107. Friends help friends.

People help people.

It wouldn't bother me to be called upon for heavy lifting; I'm just glad that there's one thing I do better than most.

When the call comes for help, though, both my wife and I go.

[Extend a Hand]

28. aaaawwww

that was so sweet :hug:

the part about killing the spider ;)

[Lerkfish]

43. she was a nice neighbor.

so I didn't mind afterwards, but I gotta tell ya, to be awoken at 3 am and asked to kill a spider initially elicits a big groan from me.

But at least I can say I killed a scorpion!

that's worth somthin!

[MsTryska]

49. I can't begin to count the number of times i've gotten myself drenched....

but i figure - i'm not salt and i'm not a witch.


i like the rain.

[Lerkfish]

54. cool.

but are you getting the car FOR a husband or available male, or for yourself?

just curious.

[MsTryska]

63. heh - there have been times i've actually had to get

wet for my best friend - but he's a big queen who believes he's made of sugar. And it was when i was driving. if he drives he whines the entire mad dash to the car.

[Lerkfish]

68. LOL..thanks for your post.

[Misunderestimator]

57. I'm a woman, and I have gone to get the fucking car in the rain

many times when there are men around. I have also helped my neighbors and friends with things that needed fixing or with computer problems. Not only does it not bother me if it isn't frequently abused, it doesn't bother me if it was. I would just say no.

If you guys have a problem getting wet, don't fucking go get the car. Just don't complain that the women you're with are smart enough to manipulate you to do it.

:eyes:

[Lerkfish]

82. good point.

"If you guys have a problem getting wet, don't fucking go get the car. Just don't complain that the women you're with are smart enough to manipulate you to do it."

good point.

it was an observation, though, rather than a complaint. Pointing out how gender roles of a traditional nature are (in my experience) reverted to when it serves a purpose.
it seemed appropriate tangentially to the discussion.

but hey! Did not mean to offend anyone, nor was my post worded offensively, as far as I can tell by rereading it.

[Misunderestimator]

93. It was offensive because you were laughing about the "fact"

that women, no matter how "strong" ALWAYS expect men to go get the car.

"Further, if in a group with single women, married women and married men and single men, the same still holds: ALL the women expect the men to go out in the driving rain to get the car."

In the context of this thread, that was offensive to me. but whatever.

[noamnety]

60. I'm calling bullshit on that as well

When my husband moved into my house, I began parking my car outside so he could park his in my garage, so he wouldn't have to scrape it in the winter.

That being said,

1. If your husband allows himself to be used, it's his fault. Nobody else's. He's an adult, he's responsible for his own actions.

2. Telling a woman they ought to get married so they have someone to do chores is offensive to both males and females. It's hard to find a way to be so fair to both genders while being sexist, so kudos on that.

3. This is just a thought, but perhaps if she needs her things moved, a suggestion to hire a professional mover is more appropriate than a suggestion to make a lifelong commitment to love, honor and cherish someone.

[progmom]

65. weird.

i get the car in the rain.
i hold the door open for people.


ok, i don't kill spiders, but that has more to do with phobias than gender roles.

:shrug:

[Lerkfish]

73. great!

hasn't been my personal experience, though.

[progmom]

78. i guess you need to hang around more DU women!

:hi:

[Lerkfish]

85. hey! got no problem with that!

impressed thus far.

[mixedview]

94. Lerkfish - I agree with that assessment.

In my experiences, even the independent type expects the guy to wear his traditional gender role.

[Misunderestimator]

97. "Even the independent type expects the guy to wear his..."

"traditional gender role."

Even the "INDEPENDENT TYPE"... OMG! *gasp* :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

119. give me a fucking break

:eyes:

[uppityperson]

101. Crap, I knew I married the wrong type.Maybe my husband is female?

Hint of the day:never say always

Second hint of the day: marriage does not equal ownership

Third hint of the day: frequently, helping each other has nothing to do with gender of either party.

[Nikia]

16. It is your decision to associate with her

Many people come to their friends if they have things that they need help with. If you don't want this type of relationship with her, tell her. As for the husband aspect, men might be more help to her for moving heavy furniture. If she doesn't know a lot of other men or is afriad that asking a single male friend might send him the wrong message, it might be understandable that she would ask your husband or friend's husbands.
Not so long ago, people used to have a support system that extended beyond their nuclear family. This included extended family and friends and their families.
It seems that you two have different sets of values. She wants an extended support system, but to be independent of a husband or nuclear family. You want to be independent of an extended support system as an indepedent nuclear family. I don't know either of you personally, but I think that you misunderstand each other.

[Ready4Change]

55. There's a difference...

A difference between a support system and a dependence system.

It's normal for friends to lend each other a hand now and then. It's not natural for one "friend" to be constantly leeching off favors.

[readmylips]

17. I love lots of good men and good women....

I don't put them all in one pot of calling all men dirt because of a few bad choices of men I've dated. My girlfriend's father, the one I refer to, has a wonderful father, brothers, brothers-in-laws, etc. She knows more good men than bad ones, but to her, all men are dirt. I'm just sick of this attitude and so is my husband. And No, my husband is not helping her out.

[Misunderestimator]

118. I love it when people don't respond to any post but their own OP.

It's hilarious! :rofl:

Oh, and thanks so much for the fascinating followup on your story. :eyes:

[noiretextatique]

18. sounds like she just needs to rent some furniture movers

and a therapist, on occasion :shrug:

i'm confused about the independence thing.
first you say this woman is independent, and you women with husbands aren't...
then you say you work hard for the independence of your family unity, etc...and the only independence the previously independent woman has is arrogance...
forget it...my head hurts
i sincerely hope this is satire :eyes:

[mixedview]

19. If they can get 'nice guys' to do things for them, more power to them

I'm a guy and I don't fall for that stuff unless I'm getting something in return (he he), but there are lots of dumb guys and girls out there who will do things for 'the popular people'.

Think about it - it's popular girl mentality - just like the cheerleader who used to have the geeks do her homework in highschool.

And then there are shows like Sex & the City which encourage this behavior.

Eh. As long as one is smart it's easy to avoid being taken.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. Is there a political point to this? Or is this lounge material?

[VelmaD]

23. Hey...don't foist this bullshit off on the Lounge

I don't want it in there either.

[progmom]

27. yup

:hi:

[pitohui]

26. lounge material in my view

maybe a request might be sent to the mods

[MissB]

29. Seems like lounge material

if that.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

56. More like bullshit than Lounge material

:boring:

[JNelson6563]

121. Yeah, I thought that too

I marvel at the crap left standing in GD these days.

[progmom]

22. the ladies auxiliary luncheon is over there

...to the right. :shrug:

[VelmaD]

30. Ya know...this shit just keeps on getting more...

and more tiresome.

[Misunderestimator]

31. I don't know ANY women who hate men! WTF is this about?

[Kalish]

32. aren't there some?

aren't there some lesbians who don't like men at all?

[MissB]

37. Does that mean that Misunderestimator has to know one?

:eyes:

[Kalish]

42. no

[Misunderestimator]

75. Then why did you ask? Do you think lesbians hate men more than straight

women? :rofl: If anything, you straight guys do a hell of a better job making straight women hate you than making us hate you.

[noiretextatique]

99. most of the man-haters i know are straight women

most lesbians i know don't give men much thought..at all.

[Misunderestimator]

105. Thank you. The only women I know who come close to "hating" men...

are straight women who have been abused by them in one way or another. For me, I can take them or leave them, so I make friends with the men I like (and love), and I leave the rest. I certainly don't hate "men"... though many individuals, men and women, irritate the crap outta me.

I probably do come close to hatred of "some" men, but if I hate them, I hate them as individuals, not as men. They would likely be the same men that most men here would hate as well.

I suppose the image of lesbians as "man-haters" must have come from men who just couldn't stand the thought that a woman wouldn't want to be with a man. Another way to diminish and control.

[noiretextatique]

113. indeed...and it must be crushing to know

that all the porno lesbian fantasies are mostly bullshit :evilgrin:

i love some men, like some others, detest some (like my ex bils), and i am completely indifferent to most...same with women.

people tend to irritate me too :D

maybe a lot of lesbians are just irritated :rofl:

[Misunderestimator]

115. LOL! LOL!

:rofl:

You might have something there!

:rofl:

[progmom]

44. you ARE an interesting one

:popcorn:

[Kalish]

48. I'm not interesting

just find this thread amusing that's all.

Carry on!

[Misunderestimator]

70. You find it amusing enough to insinuate that lesbians must hate men?

Yeah, that's frightfully amusing.

[Kalish]

76. some don't

not all

it's their perogative...

[Misunderestimator]

77. You've met one?

[Kalish]

80. two that were like that

but they were young and foolish...

I suspect it was a phase...

[charlie]

86. Here you go

http://www.manhaters.com

You can stay amused all day.

[noiretextatique]

103. "we don't hate all men, only the jerks!"

:rofl:

[Misunderestimator]

108. Oh, now that's funny!

:rofl:

[Kalish]

111. I like that

it's tounge in cheeck with some truth mixed in...

[Kathy in Cambridge]

61. Let me join you.

:popcorn: :popcorn:

[Kalish]

71. .

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl: :woohoo: :rofl: :woohoo: :popcorn: :rofl: :woohoo: :patriot:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

87. .....

[Misunderestimator]

114. Wild huh? The strangest sort of passive-aggressiveness.

:shrug:

[Misunderestimator]

64. I don't know one.

[ScreamingMeemie]

106. Aren't there some people who are so backward they go through life

with their foot in their mouth?? :shrug:

[Misunderestimator]

109. You'd think they get it after hopping around in circles for so long.

:hi:

[Misunderestimator]

110. Oh, yeah, I forgot to welcome you to DU!

But since you've obviously been eavesdropping enough to know that I'm gay... I suppose I probably know you already. :hi:

[charlie]

35. Performance art

I'm digging it.

[Misunderestimator]

67. Apparently so... LOL

[etherealtruth]

33. Was this supposed to be a joke?

[tjdee]

36. Your husbands could say NO, first thing.

Also, you seem to be assuming a lot. Just because someone is single doesn't mean they hate men.

It doesn't make them less independent to ask a man to do heavy lifting--it makes them smart, unless some of your circle of friends is brawny enough to lift things.

They can't lift things by themselves so they need to get a husband?Are you serious?

When your friend has a problem, she runs to her *friends*. Like anyone else. Except it doesn't really sound like you are her friend.

[crispini]

38. Nice flamebait.

What complete and total bullshit.

[tx_dem41]

39. Can somebody pass the popcorn this way?

Oops..nevermind....just found some.

:popcorn:

MMM...extra butter!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

69. Care to share? I love extra butter! lol!

:popcorn: yummmmmmmm

[Bunny]

40. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Laura!

What an huge steaming pile! :rofl:

Say, where do you live? I'm a man-hatin' husband stealer, and I haven't wrecked a family in two weeks! Watch out - I'm coming for your man! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHA! :rofl:

[tishaLA]

117. If I'm supposed to rent a husband...

I have a few suggestions for what the OP can rent.

[ScreamingMeemie]

45. Wha-?

Sometimes women are friends with men, and those men are married. :shrug: Friends help friends out.

[Lecky]

46. Bwahaha

What a stupid thread, I am sorry. Sounds like you have a personal problem with your friend and you should not be making blanket ignorant statements about all independent women.

Oh...and just because a woman is independent does not mean she hates men...quite the contrary.

[Shakespeare]

47. "She's traveled, worldly, stylish, sex goddess, etc."

Wow, you sound really jealous. Does your husband let you get out much?

:popcorn:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

62. lol

[Kalish]

53. What specifically about men has she said that shows she hates them?

Is it just some men, or all men? Is it said in jest the way these things often are?

[MsTryska]

59. honestly you sound more like the man-hater to me......

the men in your and your other married friends circles sound like they are retarded possessions unwilling to think for themselves.


surely they wouldn't be helping her out, if they didn't enjoy doing things for her?

[dogday]

72. Ever hear the one about the little boy who

shows the little girl his thing and says I have one of these and you don't. She lifted her skirt and said, I have one of these, and with one of these, I can get as many of those as I want.

Moral of the story. You can always find a guy who is more than willing to help a lady out.

[Stephanie]

74. Is this GD or the local gossip page?

WHAT is this doing in GD?

[uppityperson]

79. If a female isn't married to a male she hates men?

Just double checking before replying further. Then we'll get into husband ownership. Or not. :popcorn:

[name not needed]

81. You have a girlfriend?

That's quite a feat with a viewpoint like that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

83. What does she do? Arm-wrestle them into submission?

Why is it the "strong arms" left the dirty work of telling her "no" up to the women?

Do I detect a whiff of envy of a woman who is "traveled, worldly, stylish, sex goddess, etc."

[tjdee]

89. Good point-- "blame the woman" at work again.

I bet if the OP's had an affair, she'd chase down the woman, harass the woman, badmouth the woman, call her all kinds of whore and homewrecker...

and take her husband back.

:eyes:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

90. Kick for the funniest post of the day!

:kick:

[Misunderestimator]

96. HAHAHAHHA

:rofl:












:kick:

[The Great Deceiver]

91. is it a full moon or something?

planets aligning weird? are people inhaling a little too much of that dust cloud from Africa? tides rising? poles shifting?

what b the deal?

:popcorn:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

92. OP is a brilliant parody of

... something.

[Kalish]

98. not of van

I hope.

[Name removed]

100. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Kalish]

102. I like Van too

relax.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

116. You noticed that too?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

120. What's that sound a clock makes?

[Bok_Tukalo]

95. Wow. Cool post.

<ope>

[UncleSepp]

112. My God, your friend asks her friends to be friends!

I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked! And that a supposedly independent woman would ask a MAN to lift something heavier than she can lift herself... ridiculous. If you can't move a sofa yourself, you're not independent, and really ought to get yourself a man.

:crazy:

[pinto]

122. Locked.

Enough. Broad sterotypical assumptions in an original post are often inflammatory, although they may be unintentional. This seems to have happened here.

Threads of a personal nature are better posted in one of our other forums - the Lounge or one of the issue specific forums.

Thanks for your consideration.