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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:17 PM
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uh, excuse me but, this is NOT America,
whatever the fuck country this is now, it ain't america, and i know it because I'M FROM AMERICA, i was fucking born there.

if bush can change the name of the so called war on terror to something more palletable, then we should rename the former america. dumbfuckinstan, oilmerica, bushopolis, stupidshitistan, new america, totalitaria, christopolis, bornagainmoronica.

stop calling yourself america, i KNEW america, and you're no america.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:18 PM
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1. Amen, bro
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:21 PM
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2. Amen (with flash and lyrics)
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 05:24 PM by MercutioATC
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/not-america.html



This is not America, sha la la la la

A little piece of you
The little peace in me
Will die
For this is not America

Blossom fails to bloom
This season
Promise not to stare
Too long
For this is not the miracle

There was a time
A storm that blew so pure
For this could be the biggest sky
And I could have
The faintest idea

This is not america, no, this is not, sha la la la la]

Snowman melting
From the inside
Falcon spirals
To the ground
So bloody red
Tomorrow's clouds

A little piece of you
The little piece in me
Will die
For this is not America

There was a time
A wind that blew so young
For this could be the biggest sky
And I could have the faintest idea

This is not america, no, this is not, sha la la la
This is not america, no, this is not
This is not america, no, this is not, sha la la la]


..David Bowie
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:29 PM
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19. I agree, and great song to illustrate the point. On the GH album, it's
followed by
I'm afraid of America...I'm afraid I can't help it...
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:06 PM
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29. Fantastic, how they blended it with the Woody Guthrie overdub...
Thanks for sharing that, Mercutio... a wonderful mixture of words and images...
d
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:06 AM
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52. It was circulated during the general election.
"This Is Not America" pretty much sums up the way I've been feeling about this country for the past 5 years.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:22 PM
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3. I am afraid I must agree.
nt
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:22 PM
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4. My friend Stan is really pissed at you right now. Other than that,
I certainly can agree with you.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:23 PM
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5. How about Overthetopopia?
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:56 PM
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26. You ARE a snipey little bastard, aren't ya? n/t
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:27 AM
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62. I'm not little.
:toast:
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:29 PM
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6. They're dumping the "War on Terror" brand name?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:34 PM
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7. stupidshitistan is where the Rethuglicstanys live.
:smoke:;)
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:44 PM
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8. bornagainmoronica...
:rofl:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:46 PM
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Anything is possible with Commander Cuckoobananas in charge!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:46 PM
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9. like a Folger's coffee commercial
"We've secretly replaced the American democratic republic with a fascist dictatorship. Let's see if the American citizens notice."
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:31 PM
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20. *lol* that's hilarious, or it would be, if it hadn't happened...
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:40 AM
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57. ROFLMAO
Great one!
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:47 PM
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10. Dumbfuckistan
:rofl:
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:50 PM
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11. funny, really really funny,
but then, truth is always more humorous than fiction.
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:43 PM
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12. Orwellica !
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:31 PM
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64. If we changed to "Oceania"
what if anything would we owe to Orwell's estate?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:48 PM
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13. Great rant.
Snowman melting from the inside
Falcon spirals to the ground
So bloody red tomorrow's plans

A little piece of you
A little piece of me
Will die, for
THIS IS NOT AMERICA

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:54 PM
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14. how about "bushtraitorstan" or "neoconsterville"



Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:56 PM
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15. I missed the name change.
What's the new one?
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:20 PM
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17. The New Name? Michael Moore has some suggestions--
# Renewable Enemy Program
# The Neo-Crusades
# War for a Terrorist-Free Lifestyle
# The War with Radical Reality
# Cowboys & Evil-Doers
# Global Struggle Against Real Baaaaaaaad Vibrations
# Big Dubya's Demolition Derby
# Islamic Bacon
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:14 PM
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16. Mayberryia? Headinthesandstan? Greater Texas? Der ExxonReich?
So many apt possibilities.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:28 PM
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18. Bushubrisia -- leading the "No World Order"
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:38 PM
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21. Please explain
why it is that people need to believe in the myth of America.

we all know this country has a very violent, racist, sexist origin- a culture of conquest that has right from the start been involved and wedded to omnicide.

So I guess it baffles me to see well informed and I feel certain wonderful folks feel the need to believe in this beast named 'america'.

Sure the Cheney-Negroponte cabal are the worst of vampires but really this situation in present day USA isn't an aberration from the course of history just a bit more exaggerated form and degree of corruption and violence.

It's time we all stopped living the lie that is America and moved on.
Peace
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:51 PM
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25. because it is our duty as citizens
to make
America live up to it's promises... to live it's Constitution, to be better than it has been and as good as we can make it.

It was a new idea in the world when it started. No king, no inherited god-given right to rule....

We have to believe that we can make a difference.
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:07 PM
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30. I understand the sentiment
but America breaks all promises and treaties and has been essentially an idea in Corporatism and that is what we see since day one.

The diaries of Bartolome de las Casas.

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee

to:

Thy Will Be Done

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

It is the exceptions that shine, like yourself, but America has always been a rather macabre entity. Anything that got in HIS way was rubbed out or put to the margins be it the Cherokee, Daniel Shay or MLK.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:09 PM
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31. none of that is a good enough reason to stop trying......eom
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:52 AM
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51. "I understand the sentiment"
And I understand your sentiment. A lot of us in Vietnam days and Reagan
days associated the American flag with dead Indians and imperialism and
latin american torture rooms.

But Nixon was at least honestly elected, and we had a free press (and
underground newspapers, too!). Now as Bush steals elections with
impunity and the press is silenced, we see in what we're losing what
that flag really stands for. It's time to take it back! Before it's
too late!

Plus this: if in your dissent you adhere to the democratic principles
of this republic, those in the secret police who consider themselves
patriots are going to have some severe conflicts about hassling you.


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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:48 AM
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59. You know what's sad for me about that flag?
It has become so tangled up in nationalism and hubris and brutality that I have the same visceral response to it that I have to the Nazi flag. Trust me when I say that it isn't a good visceral response.

I want to take the flag back from these fascists but when we have, I want to respectfully put it away and never look at it again. It isn't the flag's responsibility that it horrifies me, but as it stands now, it does.

I suppose if we do get it back from these weasels I should try to find my love for it again.
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:18 PM
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63. The Stars and Stripes
is the only flag I know of that is cumulative and always has been.

America as a system and a symbol and a modality of thought and a nation-state is not merely flawed but impossibly diseased. The infection will spread (IS SPREADING) if the sore is not lanced.

The republic that never was is no longer.

No need for nations and false ideologies, the history is all there in chains and scars for us to see.

Peace to you my friend, let us move into entirely different modes.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:01 AM
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44. We who received the benefits that being born here confers on us .........
have a civic DUTY to take a good look at our flawed nation and leave it a noticeably better place than we found it.

America is not perfect, but I still can't think of anyplace else I would rather live (though France and Canada and Sweden are tempting).
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:43 AM
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58. Because we were all raised on that teat
Most of us here are learning to wean ourselves but the memory lives on. And the memory, being as all memories are, is idealized, perfected in the stone of time. This one is such a generational memory that not only is it idealized and solidified, it is mythologized.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:39 PM
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22. isn't it remarkably bizarre and upsetting
that we've actually had news stories about how they're going to change the name of the war because it just doesn't market so well anymore?

i can't believe they are so open about their propagandizing.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:44 PM
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23. Welcome to Jesusland! n/t
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:59 PM
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27. I LOVE it!
It's just... SOOO... wrong...
:toast:
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:15 PM
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33. Not mine, I have to admit...
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:50 PM
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35. STILL sweet as Tupelo honey...
And thanx for sharing the link; gonna have to check that site out in greater detail soon...
d
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:44 PM
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24. Ha!
As always, you rock.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:04 PM
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28. Sad, true, but those new names are funny too.
Nice Lloyd Benson reference.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:11 PM
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32. Of course it isn't it's Merika
* tells us that all the time.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:37 PM
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34. Enronia..... that's all I got.... but wait, there's more!!!! Bomblovia,
Indebtistan, Hypocristan, Nodemocristan, Maxtaxistan, Militaristan, Hummerovia, Materialistan, 4threichistan, Pollutistan, Republicistan,
Religionistan, Genocidovia, Treasurybreakistan, Childrenindebtistan, Elderlywithoutmedsistan, Lackhealthcareistan, Iraqistan, Saudirovia, FormerAmericanistan, and perhaps NationalKarmastan... headed our way whether you like it or not. Cheers.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:11 PM
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36. "bornagainmoronica."
That's the one
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:26 PM
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37. McAmeriWal-Martika
The Plastic Fascist Empire
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:55 PM
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42. Pretty good
but "bornagainmoronica." has a certain ring to it :)
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:43 PM
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38. I. c. 'mopaul' I always clik,... Bushopolis! FUCK YEA!
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:45 PM
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39. Dubya LieMongeria
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:38 PM
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40. It's the Republic of Gilead (Handmaiden'sTale, Margaret Atwood)
Extremist fundamentals in a military coup take over America...the rest as they say, is history...

Note: Excellent book if you haven't read it...scarier yet when you take into account what is happening in our country...Also, for Faye Dunaway or Robert Duvall fans, its also an excellent movie from 1990.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:56 PM
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43. I second this nomination!!!!!!!!!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:46 PM
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41. stupidshitistan
Spot on
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:02 AM
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45. I so agree with you...
but since I live in the blue state of Wisconsin, I keep hoping Canada will buy us, or invade us, or maybe we could just reprint all the maps so WI is included in Canada and they won't even notice. Of course, I'd hate to abandon all my liberal friends in Jesusland...a moral quandry!!!:shrug:
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:07 AM
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46. Bananastan
With the combined charm of a Stalinist Gulag and a Contra hit squad!
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:09 AM
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47. No no no America is now a corporation " Murder Inc. "
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:14 AM
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48. I smell a comeback of the best mopaul poll evah!!!
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 12:44 AM by WakeMeUp
You gotta do it! :rofl:

"stupidshitistan".... :rofl: :spray:

Ahh, too good! :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:12 AM
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49. "The New World Order"
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:18 AM
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50. Comaland. nt
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:30 AM
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53. Prozacia, Zoloftia, Distractistan, The Homeland, Kickassvia,
Bushrovia, Bikefallistan, Conservia, Jerkoffica, Terroropolis
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:30 AM
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54. dupe
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 05:52 AM by mopaul
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:35 AM
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55. Mopaul, you absolutely rock!!!!
:yourock:
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:55 AM
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56. kick! n/t
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:20 AM
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60. I say all of them! One for your nation, another for your state! :D
I live in california. Unfortunately we spawn little more politically than conservative bad actor politicians.

I vote that California is hereby called: The Vapid Wastes of Glamrotica, Chromed Lugnut of Dumbfuckistan

rename your state! :D
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:32 AM
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61. Another great thread Mopaul!
:yourock:
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:33 PM
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65. I am with you on that....
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:40 PM
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66. We're the C.C.C.P. : Consumers Controlled by Corporate Propaganda
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:41 PM
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67. You're right.
I live overseas now and I can say with absolute confidence that AMERICA IS JUST ANOTHER COUNTRY. It isn't special anymore, or at least its becoming less so every day.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:30 PM
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68. Sad but true
Oh how the mighty have fallen. :(
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