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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:49 PM
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Is There Sabotage At NASA?
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 05:53 PM by Beetwasher
I think the question at least needs to be asked at this point.

"Shuttle Fleet Grounded"

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:50 PM
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1. No, just bad 1970's era design
The shuttle reminds me of MS Windows. Very complex and very buggy. It should have been replaced after Challenger.

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:54 PM
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5. Yeah, windows....
Very apt statement. We need a nice linux type shuttle. Ask Burt Rutan to whip one up!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:55 PM
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Yeah, Probably
Just wondering what others think.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:51 PM
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2. Probably.
I assume you mean foreign spies? I was reading the other day that a lot of people work even indirectly for foreign services, just passing along tidbits to 'freinds' and such. Apparently, according to the article, China is a big one for trying to get technical information.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:54 PM
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3. Actually, I Meant Sabotage
Fixed. Espionage, of that there's no doubt. Sabotage, that's another matter. I certainly haven't seen any direct evidence, just wondering other's thoughts.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:17 PM
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9. Only if its the republicans.
trying to free up some funding by making NASA look like idiots....;)

Damn, I am so hard on the repugs....but it so fun!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:54 PM
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4. No
The space program is pretty much universally supported by both the right and the left. Even Alan Keyes thinks it's a good idea to continue the space program.

These things are old. There is probably a better design out there but it would take time and money to make it happen.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:55 PM
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6. Yeah.
In the sense that the bureaucracy is so bloated and wasteful it's sabotaging the U.S. space program indirectly.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:59 PM
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7. Remember, NASA is part of our government, this may all be a
bif production number to get people saying "how can you even think about Karl Rove when our astronauts are in danger?" Hate to say it, but I believe nothing I hear from the government anymore.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:16 PM
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8. No. There's politics at NASA.
People concerned about their ass, or about building their little kingdoms, rather than about doing their jobs done right.

I know people who work there. Good, honest, focused people. And they all complain about the elements in the organization that GET IN THE WAY of them doing their jobs.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:14 PM
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11. There's That
:shrug:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:19 PM
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10. Probably not..
.... just dumbass bottom-liner managers overruling the engineers who have a clue what they are doing.

Just like corporate America.

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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:15 PM
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12. They showed a clip of the latest piece of foam breaking loose
So I dont see any foul play involved.Plenty of easier ways to cause problems.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:18 PM
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13. Didn't See It Yet
n/t
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:25 PM
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14. Just a lot of pressure to meet deadlines
who's going to tell the boss to cancel a multi-million dollar event, knowing the PR implications, based on a hunch that something "might" go wrong?

It's like a wedding, even if you start to think "uh ... I don't know if I should marry this guy afterall" once the reservations and band and dress is all paid for and people have given you the gifts, backing out is considered unacceptable. It's not like cancelling plans to eat a bowl of cereal because the milk went bad.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:26 PM
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15. aren't you supposed to ground something BEFORE it goes up in the air?
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