The Koran verse 9:11...Does it really talk about an eagle causing

[lizzieforkerry]

destruction? My hubby got this from a RW email. Just wondering if anyone has seen it debunked anywhere?

[Fiona]

1. It's false...

always check www.snopes.com


http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp

[OrlandoGator]

2. snopes.com - The debunking authority.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp

[shraby]

3. It doesn't. Google Koran and find the verse.

It is totally different and makes no references like that.

[LittleClarkie]

4. No, the Koran says nothing of the kind

www.snopes.com debunks it.

The actual verse says something about prayer and fasting.

Here, I'll go get it for you.

[LittleClarkie]

9. Here

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp

Claim: Quranic verse speaks of the "wrath of the Eagle cleansing the lands of Allah."

Status: False.

Example:


Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.


Origins: No, this isn't a legitimate quotation from the Quran (or Koran), the sacred text of Islam. The chapter and verse citation quoted above is a leg-pull, an obvious play on the USA's (the Eagle) launching of military action against Afghanistan and Iraq (the "lands of Allah") in response to the September 11 terrorist attacks on America organized by Osama bin Laden (the "son of Arabia awakening a fearsome eagle"). That the chapter and verse selection match the date of the terrorist attacks (9:11) is another giveaway to the joke.

Depending upon which translation of the Quran one uses, the section corresponding to chapter 9, verse 11 actually reads something like this:

But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.

Last updated: 3 May 2003

[Agnomen]

5. Urban legend according to Snopes

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp

[LynzM]

6. Lots of sites

Snopes has a good page:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp


For more: Google Koran eagle debunk

[Nevernose]

7. Another example of the effectiveness of RW email advertising.

See thread from earlier today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4203417

[kliljedahl]

8. The Koran has books like the X-tian mythology

Thre should be a book, chapter, verse.

Don't need Snopes to tell me it's fake. But follow the advice, check Snopes first before beleiving anything like that.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[lizzieforkerry]

11. Thanks- I immediately told him it was false but

then thought I would ask here quickly just to be sure. I didn't realize it was such a widespread email or I would have googled it. I consider you guys the experts on everything and sometimes ask dumb questions knowing I will get my answer in .05 seconds...sorry.

[Telly Savalas]

17. Huh?

Here's an online copy. I see no signs of books like the Bible.

I'm not an Islamic scholar, but I've been reading Reza Aslan's No god but God and there's only citations of chapter and verse there as well.

Like 9:11 "But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know."

[lizzieforkerry]

10. Thanks guys! I always forget about Snopes.

Why does smokinggun.com have the white house website upside down?

[Stil]

18. Try

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/ instead of http://www.smokinggun.com/

[lizzieforkerry]

20. Yeah, I realized my mistake after I typed it in

but I still thought it was weird that smokinggun.com has the site upside down.

[Hissyspit]

12. General Rule of Thumb: Anything in a right-wing email is not true.

Or at least HIGHLY questionable or true, but presented out of context or misrepresented.

[Bill McBlueState]

16. That's a good rule!

There should be a Bill Maher-style list of DU rules.

[Hissyspit]

22. O.K. Posting separately. We'll see what happens. n/t

[jobycom]

13. No, but if you want to mess with the RWers, send them Jeremiah 49:16

Jeremiah 49:16
The terror you inspire and the pride of your heart have deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rocks, who occupy the heights of the hill. Though you build your nest as high as the eagle's, from there I will bring you down," declares the LORD.

[Catch22Dem]

14. Nice one

And that's one is actually legitimate.

[LeftofU]

21. that's pretty strong

excellent quote.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. NO

[elshiva]

19. I hate RW anti-Islam crap like this.

[Ilsa]

23. Be sure to email it back to the sender and everyone on

all of the forwarding lists. You can cover alot of ground that way.