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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:19 PM
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"He died for your sins"
A commonly used phrase by the christian right referring to Jesus. This same slogan should be put on placards with the pictures of sons, daughters and other loved ones that died in Iraq when people protest in front of the white house. Let's see if that message gets through. (BTW, it can be he or she)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:20 PM
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1. That's a great idea. Unfortunately, the Christofascists don't feel guilt
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:24 PM
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3. The Christian right are like the borg in star trek
And not the cool borg in the next generation but the neutered borg in voyager.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:51 PM
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9. Oh, they feel guilt...
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:24 PM
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2. I thought it was King Kong who died for my sins...
:shrug:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:26 PM
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4. Nah man it was Elvis
He was a king and they still have vigils outside gracelands and sightings.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:44 PM
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5. **Gasp** What!! Elvis dead? Say it ain't so, Joe
:cry:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:45 PM
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7. As Tommy Lee said
"He's not Dead," .puts on dark shades."He just went home."
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:08 PM
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18. Totally. Fnord.
Bill Hicks, too.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:57 PM
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31. "No, 'twas beauty killed the beast."
Hope that line's in the remake--think they cut it from the '76 version.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:45 PM
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6. In Poor taste, and insulting
to christians like me who are not hard right, but do believe that Jesus died for my sins.

To believe does not make one a bad person just because others misuse the religion for bad purpose.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:47 PM
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8. Why?

Do you believe the soldiers dying in Iraq are dying for a good cause? If not, then are they not dying for Bush's sins?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:57 PM
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12. Side's Jesus invited humour
How did this old prayer go?

Now I lay me down to sleep
A bag of peanuts at my feet
If I shall die before I wake
Give them to my brother Jake

Okay i didn't say it was good humour. And that was told to me by my parish priest.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:31 PM
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15. Not a bad little joke at all
and in no way offensive.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:07 PM
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17. welcome to DU Navvet
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:16 PM
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20. Thank You
:dem:
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:17 PM
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28. A Hot Rodder's prayer :
Now I lay me down to sleep
I parked my hot rod in the street
If it should roll before I wake
I pray The Lord will set the brake.

O8)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:50 PM
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30. Cool
All though at first I thought it would be about rowdy piper at first.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:31 PM
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14. I do not believe that dying in Iraq will accomplish much,
and I am against our being there.

And I agree they are dying for Bush's mistakes, but to use the language of faith (it was used long before Iraq) in such a caviler fashion is insulting to those of us who take their faith in a serious manor.

That was my only point.

Is it any wonder why a large portion of progressives and the Democratic party are considered a-religious at best and anti-religious for the most part?

It does us no good to be so reflex against all things of faith.


When we do we prove the right wing stereo type to be valid.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:25 PM
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22. I don't agree that the slogan as indicated is anti-faith
I think it's a good idea, and I don't think there's anything inherently anti-christian to put "he/she died for your sins" on a placard with a picture of a fallen soldier as a way to protest the sins of the bush adminsitration.

I understand and appreciate your sensitivity to the issue, but I think there are a lot of progressive christians who would not consider it or similar actions to be areligious or anti-religious.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:53 PM
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10. It's OK though because Jesus lives!
He's not dead, so he never was because to be dead is to cease to exist and he's never done that, according to everyone I know who follows that stuff.

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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:20 PM
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29. I go along with "He never was"
:evilgrin:
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:28 PM
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24. The point of it was to give them a slogan they could relate to
And use it against them as if to say, "Jesus died for our sins, but my son/daughter died for yours Mr. Bush!"
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:35 PM
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26. But the statement in this context is literally true.
The problem with Christians is they get offended by obvious truths.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:55 PM
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11. As in the case of Jesus and the soldiers, thanks, but I'm fond of my sins.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:15 PM
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13. As The Song Says, Sir
"Jesus died for somebody's sins...but not mine...."
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:53 PM
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16. Or the great John Prine song, Sam Stone
"There's a hole in Daddy's arm where all the money goes...
Jesus Christ died for nothing, I suppose...."

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:18 PM
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21. Patti Smith!
:thumbsup:

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:29 PM
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25. An Old Favorite Of Mine, Ma'am
By the way, who is the fellow pictured in the top hat...?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:01 PM
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27. It's a Northeast Elitist Snob, Sir
It is for a DUer who thinks everyone from the Northeast is an elitist.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:12 PM
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19. I thought he died for the people that were living up to his death...
not after. I was never quite clear on that one.

This is why I'm an ex-catholic
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:25 PM
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23. I always resented that scripture.
I didn't ask Jesus to do that. I don't want that responsibility. I don't want a martyr on a cross when the life of Jesus and how he treated those less fortunate should be plenty of evidence to teach people the right way to live.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:17 PM
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32. Jean Charles de Menezes
also died for "your sins."
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