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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:47 AM
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List things you think should be required reading in all public schools
Here are two things I would like to see being taught in the public schools.

James Madison's summary of the First amendment. In my opinion teaching just the First Amendment leaves too much room for interpretation. This covers everything in the Amendment and trumps all the lies of the Religious Right:

In James Madison's summary of the First Amendment he wrote: Congress should not establish a religion and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any manner contrary to their conscience, or that one sect might obtain a pre-eminence, or two combined together, and establish a religion to which they would compel others to conform (Annals of Congress, Sat Aug 15th, 1789 pages 730 - 731).


Thomas Jefferson letter to Nephew Peter Carr

Religion. Your reason is now mature enough to examine this object. In the first place, divest yourself of all bias in favor of novelty & singularity of opinion. Indulge them in any other subject rather than that of religion. It is too important, and the consequences of error may be too serious. On the other hand, shake off all the fears & servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. You will naturally examine first, the religion of your own country. Read the Bible, then as you would read Livy or Tacitus. The facts which are within the ordinary course of nature, you will believe on the authority of the writer, as you do those of the same kind in Livy & Tacitus. The testimony of the writer weighs in their favor, in one scale, and their not being against the laws of nature, does not weigh against them. But those facts in the Bible which contradict the laws of nature, must be examined with more care, and under a variety of faces. Here you must recur to the pretensions of the writer to inspiration from God. Examine upon what evidence his pretensions are founded, and whether that evidence is so strong, as that its falsehood would be more improbable than a change in the laws of nature, in the case he relates. For example, in the book of Joshua, we are told, the sun stood still several hours. Were we to read that fact in Livy or Tacitus, we should class it with their showers of blood, speaking of statues, beasts, &c. But it is said, that the writer of that book was inspired. Examine, therefore, candidly, what evidence there is of his having been inspired. The pretension is entitled to your inquiry, because millions believe it. On the other hand, you are astronomer enough to know how contrary it is to the law of nature that a body revolving on its axis, as the earth does, should have stopped, should not, by that sudden stoppage, have prostrated animals, trees, buildings, and should after a certain time gave resumed its revolution, & that without a second general prostration. Is this arrest of the earth's motion, or the evidence which affirms it, most within the law of probabilities? You will next read the New Testament. It is the history of a personage called Jesus. Keep in your eye the opposite pretensions: 1, of those who say he was begotten by God, born of a virgin, suspended & reversed the laws of nature at will, & ascended bodily into heaven; and 2, of those who say he was a man of illegitimate birth, of a benevolent heart, enthusiastic mind, who set out without pretensions to divinity, ended in believing them, and was punished capitally for sedition, by being gibbeted, according to the Roman law, which punished the first commission of that offence by whipping, & the second by exile, or death in fureâ. See this law in the Digest Lib. 48. tit. 19. §. 28. 3. & Lipsius Lib 2. de cruce. cap. 2. These questions are examined in the books I have mentioned under the head of religion, & several others. They will assist you in your inquiries, but keep your reason firmly on the watch in reading them all.

Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it ends in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you. If you find reason to believe there is a God, a consciousness that you are acting under his eye, & that he approves you, will be a vast additional incitement; if that there be a future state, the hope of a happy existence in that increases the appetite to deserve it; if that Jesus was also a God, you will be comforted by a belief of his aid and love. In fine, I repeat, you must lay aside all prejudice on both sides, and neither believe nor reject anything, because any other persons, or description of persons, have rejected or believed it. Your own reason is the only oracle given you by heaven, and you are answerable, not for the rightness, but uprightness of the decision. I forgot to observe, when speaking of the New Testament, that you should read all the histories of Christ, as well of those whom a council of ecclesiastics have decided for us, to be Pseudo-evangelists, as those they named Evangelists. Because these Pseudo-evangelists pretended to inspiration, as much as the others, and you are to judge their pretensions by your own reason, and not by the reason of those ecclesiastics. Most of these are lost. There are some, however, still extant, collected by Fabricius, which I will endeavor to get & send you.

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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:47 AM
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1. 1984 nt
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mpendragon Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:50 AM
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20. I was skimming a biography of Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)
He wrote a letter to George Orwell discussing their dystopia books. Huxley argued that the peoples of the world wouldn't need force or the sort of powerful persuasion described in 1984. He said something to the effect that people would be willing to sell their freedom for the minor comfort of new toys and empty sex. It could be possible to make controversial ideas unfashionable instead of illegal by conditioning people to dislike non-approved means of communication (books or anything old).

I think they were both right in different places. At the furthest end of the spectrum the government would need to enforce behavior with something more than strong peer pressure. I also think that in the middle of the populace it is enough to force people into wasting their time making and buying crap they don't need with money they don't really have. The rich and powerful get richer and more powerful this way and normal folk don't have the time or understanding to consider the alternatives, organize, and fight back.

The rigid stratification of the societies in Brave New World, and to a lesser extent 1984, would serve to harm the social system the book described and it wouldn't really work for us either. You need the small hope of advancement to drive people forward. In the inner cities there isn't a lot of hope of getting a living wage job or advancing beyond scraping by so unemployment and the crime rates are high.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:48 AM
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2. palast's "the best democracy $ can buy"
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:48 AM
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3. Here's one:
"Shut the Fuck Up and Let Us Teach"
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:01 AM
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9. *giggle* tell us how you really feel!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:06 AM
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14. OK, so I'm in just a teensy bit of a mood.
But honestly, if I see ONE MORE PROBLEM that schools are supposed to solve, I am going to frickin' scream.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:33 AM
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16. Perhaps you should look at some of the things people have posted
You might get some ideas. Their is always room for new ideas and improvement. This was not a slam against the schools or teachers, just an opportunity to have some interesting discussion.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:52 AM
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4. upton sinclair's The Jungle
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:54 AM
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5. Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath" NT
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:59 AM
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6. "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:59 AM
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7. I second that.
eom
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:01 AM
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10. i'll second the seconding!!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:11 AM
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15. This title is being discussed in the August Book Club:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:01 AM
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8. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.


The sinister side of U.S. biz

By Judie Kleinmaier
July 29, 2005

In "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," John Perkins tells us how the United States keeps poor countries down.

There's no conspiracy, but insiders know how the game is played: Country X needs infrastructure. Consultants do a study, overstating the need. The World Bank (or similar international agency controlled by the U.S.) lends a huge amount of money to Country X. Company Y, a U.S. firm, gets the contract. Company Y provides the infrastructure at a premium price, often with environmental degradation as a byproduct. Country X gets needed infrastructure and in the process its leaders wind up rich, but the huge interest on the loans means that instead of using its money to help its citizens, each year it must pay millions in interest on the loans. And Country X never gets ahead.

"In the end," writes Perkins, "those leaders become ensnared in a web of debt that ensures their loyalty. We can draw on them whenever we desire - to satisfy our political, economic, or military needs."

<snip>

Perkins argues that the corporatocracy has developed gradually since World War II into a system that gives priority to corporate interests rather than human rights - and that the corporatocracy has increasingly exerted itself "as the single major influence on world economics and politics."

This is a fascinating book. A Publishers Weekly review quoted on Amazon.com called it implausible, but I disagree. It's the sort of story that people say must be true because you couldn't make up something like that. It's a bit heavy on angst and overwritten to some extent, but it has a valuable point of view. It would be a good book for high school and college students to read.

http://www.madison.com/tct/books/index.php?ntid=48585&ntpid=0
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:02 AM
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11. "It Can't Happen Here", "Iron Heel", "1984" and "Why I'm not a Christian..
...and other Essays" by Bertrand Russell just for kicks.

Oh and "A People's History" for sure.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:02 AM
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12. All Kevin Phillips's books, plus A People's History of the U.S.
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evolved Anarchopunk Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:02 AM
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13. ISHMAEL, by prof. DANIEL QUINN
changed my life for the better forever and ever...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:36 AM
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17. Twixt Twelve and Twenty
By Pat Boone.

I mean, if you're going to compel young people to read the brand of politics you like best, why not go whole hog?

:evilgrin:

--p!
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:37 AM
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18. Off the top of my Head
Novels
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1984, Animal Farm -- George Orwell
Brave New World -- Aldous Huxley
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance -- Robert Pirsig

Non-Fiction
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Amusing Ourselves to Death -- Niel Postman
On Liberty -- John Stuart Mill
The Blind Watchmaker, The Selfish Gene -- Richard Dawkins
The Demon Haunted World -- Carl Sagan
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:39 AM
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19. War Is a Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935
n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:13 PM
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21. Just about any book by John Holt
Because we can't effectively teach children to question without encouraging them question the institution responsible for thier instruction.
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:24 PM
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22. anything by Robert Sherrill
RS is the author of:
Gothic Politics in the Deep South
The Accidental President (about LBJ...SCATHING)
Saturday Night Special (about handguns)
Why They Call it Politics (an antidote to the typical civics textbook)
also try The Politics of War, by Walter Karp. It lets you know just how little has changed.
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