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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:07 AM
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Bush & Cheney Indictment Thread (THANK YOU, MONICA!)
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:14 AM by IdaBriggs
I'm not sure whether this a joke or a hoax (my cynical side demands further proof before believing it, especially because other people have already pointed out some "holes" in the story), but if it is true that a whole bunch of Bush people are about to get indicted (as reported here: http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3143&sid=858006e33ca7ff30486f1256862a07e0#3143), then PRAISE GOD FOR REPUBLICAN'S FOCUS ON MONICA, ET AL! Without them INSISTING that a sitting President could be taken to court over (what turned out to be a nonsense case), we wouldn't have legal precedent for sitting Presidents and their staff FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES WHILE IN OFFICE!!!

Please, please, PLEASE let it be true! (Even though it probably isn't!) Either way, we will know in a few hours, right? In the meantime, let them SWEAT!!!

Thank you, Ken Starr! Thank you, Henry Hyde! Thank ALL OF YOU DESPICABLE BASTARDS who ABUSED YOUR OFFICES to "GET" CLINTON! I LOVE POETIC JUSTICE -- and this would be SWEET!!!

:popcorn:

ON EDIT: The thread in LBN has been locked because the source isn't Mainstream.....http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1670460&mesg_id=1670460 We should know in a few hours..... (NOTE TO SELF: Don't get your hopes up, don't get your hopes up, please let it be true, don't get your hopes up....)
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:09 AM
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1. This was the subject of another thread at LBN
which has now been locked. It seems to have several holes in it, and I (for one) can't find another more reliable source.

I'll keep looking though......
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:10 AM
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2. Ida, your link did not work for me
:(

I want some popcorn too!!!
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:19 AM
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7. Try this one --
http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3143&sid=858006e33ca7ff30486f1256862a07e0#3143

I will spell it out for you -- http:// tomflocco.com / modules.php? name = Forums & file = viewtopic&p = 3143&sid = 858006e33ca7ff30486f1256862a0730#3143 (just remove the spaces)

Here are the first paragraphs --

BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

There were no indications given as to whether the President and his top staff members would appear publicly before cameras at the grand jury proceedings, given the gravity of the charges.

Besides the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also for sending America's young people to their deaths or to be maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago.

The revelations emanated from sources close to the grand jury who spoke with federal whistleblower Thomas Heneghen in California who said White House Senior Advisor to the President Karl Rove was also indicted for perjury and was reportedly involved with Mary Matalin in a major Bush administration document shredding operation to cover-up evidence. (more)


...and it just gets better from there!

"Too good to be true" comes to mind (hence the whole "don't get my hopes up" thing), but man, if it is.....
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:11 AM
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3. Tom Flocco isn't a reliable source, plus one huge hole
Cheney may be indicted, but Bush can't be. The indictment of sitting presidents is called (you guessed it) "impeachment."
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:18 AM
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6. The act that protects CIA agents allows the President to be indicted.
Never tested in the Supreme Court, obviously. And thats where it will go if this is true.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:31 AM
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13. very, very interesting
This adds a whole new twist to blocking Roberts' appointment.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:35 AM
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14. That's why Bush needs Roberts on the bench
as soon as possible. He can't depend on O'Connor to help him out anymore.

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:12 AM
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4. I'll believe this...
... when it is reported from a reliable source.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:15 AM
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5. I'm all for it...
... when I read it from a reputable source.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:20 AM
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8. Everyone seems to be saying Flocco isn't a reliable source, but Andy
seems to have trusted him somewhat at least.
http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=107&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Was Andy just being naive when this was written then?
Anyone?

Thanks,
V
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:20 AM
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9. The "source" of the story, Thomas Heneghen, is a partner of Stew Webb
- they even ran for office together: http://www.stewwebb.com/Heneghan%20Webb%202004%20Platform.html

Stew Webb has been pushing unlikely stories since he used to guest on Tom Valentine's Radio Free America in the early 90's, along with Sherman Skolnick (another Heneghen associate: http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2005/07/agents_for_brit.html ).

At the time, RFA was sponsored by Liberty Lobby, run by white supremacist and holocaust revisionist Wilis Carto, and specialised in conspiratorial revelations which took existing news items just that one little step further.

This seems to be very much from the same stable of reporting. You will notice references to the Webb/Heneghan "report" of

Tony Blair's MI-6 Agents Caught Trying To Blow Up Chicago Subway:


To Derail US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald's Grand Jury Investigations of Bush-Blair White House Leaks

By Tom Heneghan & Stew Webb Federal Whistleblowers

Heneghan-Webb Presidential & Vice Presidential Candidates 2004

VIVA' LA FRANCE:

French Intelligence and The U.S. Marshall Service Monday night July 18, 2005 caught eight of Tony Blair's British MI-6 Agents trying to bomb the Chicago Subway system. A shoot out killed 4 British Agents. Four were captured in the act of Terrorism and arrested. The British Agents part of Bush & Blair's Al Quaida network were charged in Federal Court today with explosives. The British MI-6 Terrorist Cell Operated out of Laidlaw Corp in Chicago.

Chicago US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald served Tony Blair a subpoena in the CIA Valerie Plame case on July 13, 2005 to answer questions regarding his role in the leaks connected to George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Condi Rice, Andrew Card, Scooter Libby and Karl Rove. Tony Blair has not yet responded to his subpoena. George W. Bush has not responded to his subpoena either. Tony Blair had supplied George W. Bush with falsified British Intelligence stating that Iraq leader Saddum Hussein had obtained "Yellow Cake" Nuclear materials from Niger. This was the reason Bush gave to start the war in Iraq. This has all now been proven to be lies by Bush and Blair. CIA Valerie Plame's husband Ambassador Joseph Wilson submitted his report prior to the Bush-Blair lies that Niger never sold yellow cake to Iraq. Wilson came forth stating Bush lied in his State of the Union address to the nation. Valerie Plame's CIA Network was further investigating Bush & Cheney's orchestrated attack on America on 9-11-2001. New York Police Bernard Kerik who ran a FEMA operation out of pier 29 known as Code Angel also known as Tripod II planted the bombs on the 7 World Trade Center Building that were demolished on 9-11-2001. This operation was a US Justice Department operation involving Gary Best of Defense Intelligence Agency a George H. W. Bush Shadow Government Crony who is currently in Prison in the French Guinea for espionage against the French Government. Best has admitted to French Authorities of his 9-11 involvements. As I am writing this press release two more British MI-6 agents were arrested a few minutes ago details are forthcoming.

Also today British Stooge MI-6 Agent Linda Fanton Pike of Iowa tied to Hillary Rodenhurst Clinton, today made death threats against a Investigative Journalist on behalf of Department of Defense agency operatives under Criminal Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. The Journalist was told to stay away from Tom Heneghan & Stew Webb.


.. another story which the MSM have rather too assiduously ignored for me to regard it as credible.

I'd take these indictment reports with several dumper truckloads of salt, personally. (Though I'd love to be proved wrong!)
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:21 AM
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10. This site revealed that Hillary Clinton is a cocaine kingpin....
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:23 AM by rfranklin
and Bush family helicopters loaded with counterfeit money were downed in New York's East River.

and check this out--
http://www.stewwebb.com/BreakingNews.html
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:42 AM
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15. The "World Weekly News" of blogging
Next we'll find that the "batboy of West Virginia" is hiding out in Cheney's bunker.

C'mon, folks, it's "news sources" like this that disservice DU as a whole.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:22 AM
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11. Tom Flocco is the guy
who reported the paedophile ring in the WH. If this were true it would help provide plenty of blackmailable power brokers.

But, while it doesn't seem impossible, it doesn't seem likely either.

http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=107
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:26 AM
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12. RE: "DESPICABLE BASTARDS"
If what you say is true...If Gawd would grant us such a miracle, I promise, I'll buy a new snakebite kit and go to church every damned Sunday.

It was legal trickery that landed him his gig as pResident and it's only fair that the legal system would help us reclaim our country from the neobeast. :evilfrown: (666 Dumbya Bush) :evilgrin:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:07 AM
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16. The other precedent the GOP Clinton-haters set

was "It's not about the sex, it's about the lying." The FReeps and their ilk STILL rant about Clinton being a perjurer but condone *'s lies.

Nobody DIED when Clinton lied. Bush lied, soldiers died. And keep on dying.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:13 AM
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17. The LBN thread was locked because this is bullshit.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:46 AM
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18. Please, everyone, stop posting this.
It's not true.
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