August 2nd, 2005 : The War Is Lost

[kentuck]

Seven more Marines dead and eight GA National Guardsmen dead. There is no military solution to this quagmire. Bush knows it. Rumsfeld knows it. And the entire Administration knows it. Now they just have to tell the American people one more lie. How we can get out of that shit hole and still call it a "victory"?

[Massacure]

1. WTF 15 deaths? Link???

[kentuck]

3. The 8 Guardsmen were killed in the last week...

and is posted elsewhere in the forum...But the culmination is with the seven Marines killed today, in my opinion.

[Massacure]

5. 8 men in a weak isn't a lot for Iraq. 7 in a day is.

[kentuck]

6. But those eight from that NG unit were the first since WWII...

which is very significant to the unit and the families of the casualties.

[JRob]

2. We're not leaving Iraq any time soon...

[LibDemAlways]

4. With places like American Samoa and Guam

proving to be fertile recruiting grounds for the US military, the carnage will continue.

As long as caucasion college-age kids from the suburbs aren't being summoned to be killed in Iraq, it will not end.

[DefenseLawyer]

9. The total population of

American Samoa is 60,000 people, Guam is about 160,000. I don't think they will solve the military recruiting problem. Your overall point though is well taken. As long as support for the war consists of putting magnets on your truck and not sending junior to get blown up, those folks will keep buying magnets.

[Catshrink]

7. My heart sinks -- my nephew joined the GA National Guard

He did his training Marrch-May and is finishing his second week of summer officer training right now. He's always been patriotic and plays army as a civil war re-enactor. He also married a sweet young lady last year who has a 6 year old daughter. He was just promoted in his company.

I wrestle with why he did this -- and wonder when he'll be shipped out to Iraq or Iran or wherever Georgie's next war is.

Thanks for letting me vent.

[Stirk]

8. The Bush Administration just defines "solution" differently from you.

They've got their permanent bases in Iraq, and a means by which to control the world's second largest oil reserves. Mission accomplished.

People don't figure into their "solutions", except in terms of recruitment and repression.

[Mr.Green93]

10. Proportionally to the size of the forces

these may be some of the highest causalities rates ever. These loses are not sustainable.