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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 02:51 PM
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Poll question: Dean supporters: Will you vote for Wes Clark if he gets the nom?
:shrug:
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 02:52 PM
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1. I would if I could vote (n/t)
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 02:52 PM
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2. I think we will be united in the end?
Thanks!
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 02:56 PM
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3. Kick
:kick:
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 02:58 PM
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4. Of course.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:02 PM
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5. no, but it has very little to do with my general (and not overwhelming)...
...support for Dean. I fundamentally distrust the notion of giving the reins of civilian power to a career militarist. I FIRMLY believe that if the founding fathers had forseen the kind or professional military we have today they'd have made generals ineligible to run for the presidency.

Furthermore, Clark's political history is way too right-wing for me-- he was virtually indistinguishable from the rest of the militarist wingnuts until his recent "conversion" to liberalism. Remember-- this "conversion" is from a man for whom the term "tactics" has operational meaning.

I do not trust Clark. Perhaps if he puts his money where his mouth his and repudiates his own political history, provides us with good explantions for both his prior stances and his new ones, and gives good evidence that his new convictions are not ephemeral, then maybe. But not now.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:07 PM
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8. oh come on, I'd take Eisenhower or Grant over * any day of the week!
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:29 PM
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13. If not, what?
I fundamentally distrust the notion of giving the reins of civilian power to a career militarist.

I tend to agree in principle but, like you, I will wait to see what Clark has to say for himself as time passes. I truly do hope that the Democrats will nominate a candidate who offers a different vision and not just a different idea of how to approach doing the same kinds of things that have always been done.

Wondering... would you vote third party, write-in, or just not vote? Or some other choice that I haven't thought of?
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:03 PM
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6. don't believe any true Dean supporter wouldn't vote for any D. against *
I mean when it came down to it, I would even vote for Lieberman over Bush. Come next summer I will be working my ass of for ANY Dem that wins the nomination.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:06 PM
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7. I am a DEMOCRAT first, and a Dean supporter second!
I will support our party's nominee PROUDLY, whoever he or she may be! :thumbsup:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:14 PM
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9. Absolutely. DLC is better than PNAC any day of the week.
Clark has a brain, and genuine charm (unlike the fake charm the whore media TELLS us w has), and a real record of accomplishment.

Voting 3rd party is NOT an option - although it would be tempting.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:52 PM
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16. How exactly do your views differ from the PNAC
?
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:19 PM
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10. The only Democrat I wouldn't vote for...
is Lieberman.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:27 PM
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11. I have to agree
I hate to say it, but there's no way I can vote for someone who's still pushing this war as an important part of the "war on terra."

But, I don't see any way in Hades he's going to get the nomination, and I'll be happy to support any of the others. Any of them.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:29 PM
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12. So what would your option(s) be at that point?
I am not willing to sit out the election, nor will I cast a vote that would help Bush* in anyway. So if it comes down to it, I will vote for Lieberman.
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:50 PM
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15. Ummmm.
It's hard to say what I'd do. I'd just vote for Worker's World just to make a statement or abstain. I do not believe that Lieberman is any better than Bush. Bush went to war against Iraq for business interests, whereas Lieberman has personal religious interests that would come in conflict with his Middle East policy. He, in my opinion, would be far more likely to go after Syria and screw up any possibility of the US being accepted as a legitimate peace broker in Israel/Palestine.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:31 PM
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14. Yes
Bush must go.

Julie
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:55 PM
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17. maybe i am just naive but I can't believe that this poll is representative
of actual Dean supporters... I just can't get myself to accept the fact that 21 per cent of Dean supporters would prefer Bush over Clark.

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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:57 PM
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18. Absolutely
Will you vote for Dean if he gets the nomination?
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He loved Big Brother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:58 PM
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19. Without a doubt.
ABBoL

(Anyone But Bush or Lieberman)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 03:59 PM
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20. great - another thread - with a slight twist
that fits with a bunch of other threads on this topic.

I appreciate your point - but could you make it on one of the existing threads?

Or is no discussion besides Clark or Dean allowed in GD anymore? Because the net effect of starting a thread that fits with several existing threads and that will result in a mirror Dean thread is pushing ALL substantive ISSUE topics off of the front page. Within minutes.

Sorry but this is frustrating.

*this is todays pat response to the proliferation of identical threads that has shut down all other conversations among people, on issues, that are about beating BUSH, fighting back against BUsh policies, but devoid of clark or dean.* If ya'll can spam the forum - then I can spam your threads.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 04:59 PM
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21. Kickin it!
:kick:
as the Clark poll is at the top...
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 05:07 PM
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22. yes
eom.
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JackS124 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 05:11 PM
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23. Of course I would!
Although Dr. Dean is my first choice, I would happily for for Gen. Clark if he is the party's nominee.

This constant acrimony and candidate bashing between the 2 camps is ridiculous. After watching the debates, I'd happily vote for any of the candidates before considering voting for the unelected fraud.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 05:18 PM
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24. Of course! I can live with almost any of our guys when compared
to bush. Well, except for Lieberman.

I'm a Deanie. But I will unflaggingly support whichEVER candidate goes the distance.
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