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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:50 PM
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how did bush end up a psychopath with such a privileged life?
many others have had similar lives of privilege and turned out wonderfully, and did many wonderful things for america and society. fdr, jfk, for instance, and they had all the same luxuries and temptations.

did barbara drink real heavy when she was carryin' dubya? did all the coke and whiskey make him that way or was he just born a psychopathic killer maniac fuckhead jerkoff?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:53 PM
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1. Bushler's a puppet
It's a fortunate thing he's as uncharismatic as he is, otherwise the left would have been utterly swept aside. Cheney and Rummy and possibly even Poppy Bush are calling the shots here, as they have been during every Republican administration since and including Nixon's.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:53 PM
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2. the latter, I think
although, given what we know about good old Babs, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree. PsychoGeorgie is his mother's son, all the way.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:53 PM
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3. oh, I don't know... I can think of many instances in history where
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 05:55 PM by ixion
the spawn of a wealthy family are worthless, untrustworthy cretins.

It happens when you never have to work for anything, and when you never suffer the consequences of your actions.

It also helps that creepiness goes back generations in the Bush lineage.

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:54 PM
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4. Read Kitty Kelley's "The Family"
Major psychodamage after death of baby sister and family that would not grieve. E.L. Doctorow's recent piece on "Death and *" laments that this guy doesn't acknowledge death and can't feel or grieve -- it all stems from his f***ing family. Babs especially sounds like a truly delusional, psychob****.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:56 PM
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5. He's a SPOILED BRAT competing with Daddy....sicko
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:56 PM
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9. daddybush, sonofasenator, a guy who financed hitler
what should i expect.
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:56 PM
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6. He is not a psychopath
He is a sociopath

A psychopath dosn't know right from wrong.
A sociopath does, he/she just dosn't care.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:56 PM
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7. Two ways...
First, he comes from a LONG LINE of psychopaths....
Second, all that damned liquor, pot, and cocaine, screwed up what little brain he had in the first place.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:56 PM
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8. He came from a largely single parent family since his father was often
gone and his mother looked like a cross between a father and a thanksgiving turkey (note the droopy waddle). As no one in their family ever became any sort of advanced degree professional i.e. doctor, lawyer, scientist...he believes the government owes him a hand-out (see..his family has been on the public dole for GENERATIONS now) Therefore, he suffers for his poor inadequate role models
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:59 PM
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10. I don't think it's only G. Shrub. Jeb isn't any better!
Neil I guess is a renegade son.

I don't know where the blame lies, or if you can even blame any one person. I don't think Shrub or Jeb are WYSIWYG people at all. I think there's a lot more that goes on in background that we will NEVER know.

I really don't think they are nearly as religious as they claim. I KNOW they sure aren't compassionate! I think incompetence is rampant.

The whole family has depended totally on connections forever. Back as far as I can find, to Prescott Bush.

I'm counting down the months until this one's gone!

FORTY ONE MONTHS TO GO!!!! Until January 2008!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:00 PM
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11. He was born in a nest of vipers. NT
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:01 PM
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12. I'll go with the "spoiled brat" theory. (n/t)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:01 PM
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13. I think you will find similarities through history of
sons of privilege getting too much wealth and power to use destructively. I thought our new way of democratic governance, Constitutions and elections included, was supposed to keep that from happening, but it looks like we missed something and we seem to have a deranged Roman Emperor in charge of our country now.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:02 PM
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14. He won the karmic lottery... this time around
But it's my belief that the universe punishes those who misuse their gifts, and there can be no question that George W Bush has exploited his many personal blessings to the detriment of millions of his other fellow human beings. Next time around, he won't be so lucky.... someone more worthy will be blessed with such gifts as Bush now so selfishly enjoys.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:02 PM
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15. Genetics. n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:04 PM
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17. Look to a secret familly history....
<snip>

How Psychopaths View Their World

Most psychopaths are very arrogant and cocky. However, when charming a potential victim, they say all the "right" things and make you believe they are kind-hearted souls; not always, but often enough. The truth is, psychopaths are not altruistic and do not really care about friendships or ties. Guggenbuhl-Craig states that they are very talented at appearing much more humble than the average person, but are hardly so. Some are also able to feign concern about the lower classes and profess that they are on the side of the underdog, the poor, and so forth. A psychopath may claim, for instance (if he's from a low socio-economic class), that he dislikes rich people intensely, but at the same time, he will inwardly yearn and envy what they have. He is like the narcissist, desiring to reflect a false image of himself through his possessions. Among his possessions are included human beings: girlfriends, wives, and children. Some psychopaths can even very fond of animals (contrary to the common viewpoint), but still view them as objects in relation to themselves.

The psychopath is filled with greed inside, relating to the world through power, even though, as I said, on the outside he can claim to be on the side of the disenfranchised or the downtrodden. I knew one who liked to repeat phrases such as "they have to stop keeping my brothers down" but he didn't mean a word of it. He was actually a racist. The psychopath can also often identify himself as a revolutionary.

On the flip side, the psychopath also often paints a picture of himself as the downcast anti-hero (his "own worst enemy type") and some like to see themselves as lone-wolves. The psychopath may even claim he is sensitive and profound, but inside he is nothing but emptiness and greed. Whether or not the psychopath is aware of his behaviour is something that is often debated. I do believe that psychopaths usually know exactly what they are doing, although others suggest that psychopaths are "born, not made." <1>

I believe that psychopathy is primarily genetic. A son with a psychopathic father often will be psychopathic as well, especially if the father was abusive and/or abandoned the family as well.

<more>
<link> http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath3.htm
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:05 PM
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18. Reminds me of the bad guy in the movie Gladiator.
Wanted to be emporer and thought he had absolute power.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:07 PM
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19. He was the Emperor Commodus and he was as mad
as they portrayed him.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:08 PM
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21. Just like Emperor Bush!!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:08 PM
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20. The Bushlers are psycho dope head cannibals.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:17 PM by Swamp Rat


Edit: Laura wants to be with her husband in this post. :eyes:

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:11 PM
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22. Because he was unloved as a child.
His mother is a rotted inhuman shell,
and has no capacity to love whatsoever,
and the boy grew up unloved.

He's spent his whole life trying to
win the favour and love of the women
in his life, and he's failed, because
it cannot be won.

He's been a super achiever as a
failure, and will never win
respectability or love that are...

Only given freely, naturally,
by persons unlike his mother,
who love their babes.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:44 PM
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27. she's the one who pushed him into becoming a vengeful bully
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 08:46 PM by Lisa
I normally am skeptical of psychological theories that blame the mother for everything that goes wrong ... but in this case ... Dubya's dad was absent most of the time. And his mom made him take on the "father" role -- it was his job to "discipline" his siblings and keep them in line, because his mom didn't want to waste her beautiful mind on such mundane, disagreeable matters. She was always telling her kids not to let people get the better of them -- to figure out some way of getting back at them, no matter what. Dubya just copied her. Because Dubya was only a little kid, if he saw Jeb beating up Marvin, did he comfort Marvin with a hug, and then tell Jeb gently but firmly that it was wrong to hit people? No. It takes a mature, insightful child to think of that .... and Dubya didn't. He'd shoot them both in the rear end with his pellet gun -- in the house. And if his mom noticed, she said nothing.

So when Dubya grew up, he took on the "enforcer" job for his dad's election campaigns. He liked it. A bully who thinks that people approve of what he's doing has no reason to stop. And when he eventually took office himself, he saw that as his role in life. And now there's a war ... and Dubya has nuclear weapons.

Those other leaders? He'll make them obey him.

By George, he will.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:12 PM
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23. add innate limited IQ and character disorder to no discipline
and stir.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:12 PM
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24. It was inevitable...Poppy and Babs both carry
the "asshole gene".

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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:13 PM
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25. Barbara was and is a coldhearted bitch
Read "Bush on the Couch." When W was young, his younger sister died. The Bush parents took her on a trip to see doctors and when they returned, she didn't return with them. No funeral, no mourning. Just "your sister died, life goes on" comments. W hates his mother BTW,and probably his father too. He was raised by strangers his whole childhood -- boarding schools and the like. Knowing this is the only way to understanding how he does the things he does. Otherwise I'd be consumed with hatred. Now Cheney is another matter. . .
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:16 PM
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26. Inbreeding.
Eugenics is a very bad idea. Adding alcohol to the mix made it worse.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:31 PM
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28. Bush
I think he carries on the tradition of "good ol boy", which is breathing its last gasps of breath (I hope). And, he probably has the stars in his favor, as well as politics in his blood. He has given high positions to women and blacks, and hispanics, so you can't call him racist or sexist. I personally think people get rabid about candidates, like Clinton, when they are just directing their anger at who elected them toward the one individual. I don't think Bush is comparable to Nixon, but somehow they both have no problems in breaking the law. sorry if I ramble, that is how my mind works.

:o :P :-( :) :D
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:00 AM
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29. I don't think he is one. Like they say - he is a self-important rich
kid, asshole & a puppet.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:10 AM
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30. MoPaul, will you help with the promotion of VETS FOR PEACE
NATIONAL CONVENTION THIS WEEK?

www.veteransforpeace.org

?

Thanks.
anarchy1999
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 04:21 AM
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31. this might be one answer,
so ... with permission from Cliff Flower News PWP and Teresa Simon-Noble to publish full article which was originally published at opednews ... this might be an answer:
Cliff Flower News
Culture & Ethnicity
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Bush Family Baseball

Bush Family Baseball; From Cute Sociopath to Global War Criminal
By Teresa Simón-Noble

“It is the pitch of a father who never corrected his son’s misguided baseball game and the batting son who is still misaiming his baseballs at destroying the American Democracy”.

A long time ago Barbara Bush told a story about a young teenaged boy named George and the baseball he hit and aimed directly at an old neighbor’s second story window. The story, for me, today, connects many dots between the American attacks on Fallujah, the White House purge of the CIA liberals, the advent of new horrors to come against the world and our very own democracy during the second Bush Squat-A-Thon and, between this young George, her son, and our Squatter in the White House.

In the story, as I recall the telling of it, Barbara Bush said that she was both enraged at George for breaking the old man’s window and, that she, feeling powerless to do anything about what George had done, or failing to find the right “discipline” for George, she launched a verbal attack on him for aiming the ball at their neighbor ’s window and for breaking it, and then threatened George with a, “wait until your father hears about this,” tirade, the implication being that George was going to get his just deserves once George Senior got home and was apprised of George’s misadventure.

Barbara Bush expected her husband to be equally enraged upon learning of George’s misadventure. She expected the elder George to call the younger George on the carpet right then and there and fry his butt, or impose some “you are grounded for an x period of time,” stuff. Instead, she says, the elder George was amazed and bewildered at young George’s ingenuity and good aim and with approval and admiration in his voice at his son’s mischief he kept repeating, “Gee, you mean to say that George batted the ball that far? ... You mean to say that Ge or ge broke the old man’s window?”

So much for discipline and just deserves. George the elder paid for the repair to the old man’s window and George received no punishment for his mischief which turned out to be a cause celeb for the elder George.

That was, in my mind as I heard the story, the very birthing of a sociopathic son by a sociopathic father who was letting his son get away without any consequences for his mischievous actions... a pattern which, as history makes clear, has repeated itself time and time again in the Bush father-son dyad.

The story foreshadows many of the now well known rescuer-rescued dynamics between the two Georges. It points to the admiration and idealization for mischief present in the Bush family, and it provides a basis for , at least, a bare minimum understanding of all of the horror stories that have accompanied their mischievous behavior on a grand national scale : from the stealing of election 2000, to the equally mischievous but newly perfected re-stealing of election 2004, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq, to the Fallujah Massacre, to the CIA purge of liberals and of those who do not support the Bush doctrine... to, and including the clear directive from the current director of the CIA to neither support opposition to George, nor champion opposition to the administration nor its policies ... behind all of which, I believe, George the elder (the only for mer president who continues to receive, at his request, CIA < or is it FBI?> briefings) is not only pulling the strings, but is still, with awe and admiration in his voice, muttering, Wow! Look at George and at all that he is accomplishing in his presidency on behalf of the nation and the world as he throws one ball after another against democracy, civil liberties, environmental protection, innocent civilians in other countries, etc. etc., etc.! Wow! What a son, the elder Bush continues to mutter. Wow...the power of a baseball!

What a pitcher’s pitch and a batterer’s bat!

It is the pitch of a father who never corrected his son’s baseball game, and the batting of a son who is misaming his baseballs against our American democracy and w or ld peace.

It is a like father, like son story.


Teresa Simon-Noble

Teresa Simon-Noble is a computer activist for peace and social justice who lives in the sunny state of Florida . She is a former mental health clinician. A poet and a freelance writer, her work has been published in several online publications





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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:58 AM
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36. george junior
Your story makes sense to me. We learn a lot from the approving looks we get from our parents. Or when there is a marked lack of discipline, that impresses us too.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:43 AM
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32. mo, bu$hler was born a REPTILE.
Usually, they're a little more careful with their breeding program. But somehow, Poppy and Bar were allowed to reproduce with both of them having more overt Reptilian characteristics than is usual. As a result, Little Georgie shows way more of his snake side than his "human" side. He also has MUCH less of what we recognize as Conscience--such a small amount as to appear as NONE in a great many situations.

The fuller-blooded Reptiles are not big on subtlety, as you may have noticed with bu$hler. Everything is black-and-white with these critters; they are quick to (what we recognize as) anger and quite aggressive. Additionally, they prefer a hot and dry climate, which would explain the environmental policies of the Regime.

In short, David Icke is telling the truth--and we all need to get with it!

Your Pal,
dbt
Committee On Noticing Spray Programs Involving Real Aircraft Calculated Yearly
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:48 AM
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33. the reptile brain, right under the medussa oblongator
the reptile brain, which we all have is what got us here to this point, so it has it's uses. but it's stark in there, and it's all about feeding and killing and a couple other instintual rituals.

i've been avoiding the sci fi angle, but it get's harder every day.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:59 AM
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34. Are you really up and ready? I think/believe not. Peace
n/t
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:05 AM
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35. i'm up, check your inbox
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