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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:19 AM
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need a quote re: jobs Amercans won't do
Preferrably from the bushmeister himself. Any mention of "jobs Americans won't do", for which we should invite illegals in to do for us.

I mean, shit, we just don't do real work anymore?

thx
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:26 AM
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1. I sure don't have a quote from Bushmeister, but people in the US will
NOT work for $2.50 an hour! That's what they are paying some of the illegal immigrants, and sometimes less than that for field work picking vegetables. I think they are paid by the bucket!

I say they should punish the companies that hire the illegals, not the workers!
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:48 AM
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3. agreed, in fact
Can't punish the poor schmoes that jump the border for brighter futures. They're just trying to earn a buck, like us all.

Personally, to me, free trade would mean freedom of movement to find the jobs. Isn't that common sense, a free market? But it ain't that way. The "illegality" of hiring Mexicans is another mechanism to keep costs down, IMO.

But it shouldn't be done, and the idea that there is a job that an American, not one single one, even one left suffering by the demands of the modern age, the neglect of those who would call themselves "Compassionate Conservatives", (haven't hear that BS in a while, no?) is repugnant to me, an alien thought.

Still would like the quote, though I did find this: http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004dec20.html
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:53 AM
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5. I've picked strawberries, tomatoes, corn and bush beans. . .
the people who pick crops would be underpaid no matter what they made -- especially strawberries. . . stooped over, slipping and sitting in mushed berries & juices, fighting off flies all day, while the cart or flat can never be filled too high else you bruise the fruit, so you're constantly running to empty your load, and they don't pay for the trips to and fro, only the load.

I understand the America consumer's desire for good produce at low prices, but would it kill us to pay an extra 25¢ a head of lettuce so that the people who picked and packed that head have enough to feed all the mouths in their family? There has to be a more equitable way to compensate everyone, especially the least among us.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:26 AM
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2. dupe
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 02:26 AM by napi21
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:52 AM
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4. Here...
"Now, let me talk about the immigration issue. First we want our Border Patrol agents chasing crooks and thieves and drug runners and terrorists, not good-hearted people who are coming here to work. And, therefore, it makes sense to allow the good-hearted people who are coming here to do jobs that Americans won't do a legal way to do so."

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004dec20.html

Yes, let the dirty low-lifes come and clean our toilets.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:24 AM
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6. Not from ** but from Vicente Fox:
http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/081952.php

"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States."

Just as stupid as something bush would say...
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:33 AM
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7. yes, that one's just plain wrong, too
Work exists, and it must be done by someone. If it's your work, do it, and if you can get someone to do it cheaper, then fine. That's the free market.

But regulations, i.e. don't work that poor bastard to skin and bones, don't abuse, demean, underpay, mean that all of us have a hope at honorable buck-earning.

Too bad the Unions are falling down on the job. Look, I work in a University environment, where the separation between "Faculty" and "Staff" couldn't be plainer. Faculty doesn't need a union, they've got tenure.

They also get the "Facult Desktop Initiative" which means they get new computers ever two years, and yet, for staff, the only way to get a new computer is to hope your superior gets a new one and you get their old one.

That is fucked up, and if the union was worth a shit, they'd address it.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:30 AM
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8. I don't know about now
but 20 years ago my husband worked putting in irrigation systems, and it was basically digging ditches in the hot Texas sun all day, and the only people who weren't illegals (including my husband) were the foremen. It was $5 an hour then which wasn't a lot, but it was over minimum wage and was a livable wage. But no Americans ever came asking for jobs there, or if they did, they only lasted a few days. I do think it's fair to say lots of jobs would go unfilled without illegals doing them. Obviously they could raise the wages for the jobs so high that people would do them anyway in spite of the unpleasantness, but in some cases this would mean the prices for the services would go up so high that the demand would go down and there would be little net gain in employment.
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