I usually laugh at this stuff, but this pisses me off...

[evil eggplant]

OK, I admit it. I visit GOPUSA on a regular basis. You can count on them for a laugh. Usually.

But this is too much...

Report: More Democrat than Republican Operatives Involved in Voter Fraud
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
August 3, 2005

(CNSNews.com) -- A report by a voting rights group regarding allegations of voter fraud, intimidation and suppression during the 2004 presidential election has found that "paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression activities than were their Republican counterparts during the 2004 presidential election."

*snip*


You would think that they would be satisfied with the 2000 elections. That voter fraud, making people of color and Latinos wait hours in the swealtering heat to vote, losing ballots, and the ultimate, having 5 conservative judges choose one of their own, despite the wishes of the American people, you would think that they would be happy. Wouldn't you?

These pukes should be the last people to bring this shit up, right?

I felt the same way when Melhman said that the turdblossom deserved an apology.

Once, just once, somebody should pay. These assholes are having way too much fun.

[ET Awful]

1. "a voting rights group"?

Notice they give no credentials for this group, nor do they mention the exhaustive study of Ohio voting issues done by Conyers group.

edit: If they're so opposed to voter suppression, how come Republicans are so resistant to extending the Voter Rights Act?

[ComerPerro]

5. Not only did they leave out any kind of credentials

They also didn't even name the group or provide any kind of source whatsoever.

They probably just completely made it up.

Seems lazy.

If I were a propagandist, I think I would at least make up a group and have it do a really biased study so I could publish the results. That way, lazy Republicans in the 101st Keyboardists could check my link, and say "See, its true! There was a study!"

Hell, I bet even Limbaugh wouldn't even touch it without a link...

[ET Awful]

7. Nah, Limbaugh would just make up a name himself.

Like O'Reilly did with the "Paris Business Review" :)

[bullimiami]

2. just like calling kerry a coward and blaspheming his war record.

accuse others of doing what you are guilty of.

then act all indignant when they say anything about it.


brain of a child = republican mentality.

[samdogmom]

3. They always try to make themselves look better by making the other side

look worse. Unfortunately, it usually works. Where's their proof? Sometimes they just say things to get the "fact" out. Eventually it becomes conventional wisdom. Often no one questions the accuracy.

[meegbear]

4. And I'm sure CNN will do the right thing ..

and report on it every 30 minutes.

[RageFist]

6. I will say that...

I was a registered Repuke last summer (despite being atheist...my sociology professor did a number on me :)) and I received a call that my name was "Registered" 3 times and I only registered once in high school...Not ruling it out, but I doubt that Republicans would want to mess with a seemingly loyal repuke voter...

[evil eggplant]

9. now they use diebold machines

What are you saying? That you were registered 3 times? I'm sure that this is SOP for the GOP. You vote once, and your vote is counted three times.

I'm surprised they let you know. Must have been someone new over there who didn't know any better...

Nowadays they do it different. They have neocons like wally o'dell manufacture electronic voting machines that *automatically* do the dirty work.

[RageFist]

10. I dunno I got

a phone call from someone saying that my name was probably being used illegally and that there were three attempts to register with my name...why that would help anyone is beyond me, however.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. did they register you as a dem or repug? nt

[Lannes]

8. Who the hell is CNS news?

[Karmakaze]

11. There was a post on DU within the last couple of days about this...

The group involved is run by two senior Bush flunkies and the actual report reads as being obviously biased - when there is an allegation of Democratic wrong doing the report reads as an attempt to prove it, whereas if it is a report of Republican wrong doing the report reads as an attempt to disprove it.

I cant find the link now, but perhaps someone with search abilities can find it for you.

[GoBlue]

12. Its a fake group run by this clown...

http://www.ac4vr.com/reports/072005/letterofintroduction.html

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001281.htm

[Name removed]

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[evil eggplant]

14. you're shitting me, aren't you?

Are you a troll? I think you may be.

I agree, Dems may very well be as guilty as the GOP in some regards, but lets take a look at the big picture, OK?

Florida 2000.

Tell me, what are the odds that if there was going to be a problem that it would be in the state where a candidtates brother was governor?

Lets see...

50-1. Those are the odds.

All kinds of skullduggery in Florida. That plastic-faced bitch Harris. Remember Harris? Remember what she wanted to do? She was so eager to do *anything* that Jeb had to bitch-slap her to get her to shut the fuck up. Do you remember any of that?

How about 5 conservative judges choosing one of their own as the next president?

Lets stay focused on the big picture. A man that is capable of starting a war based on lies and deceipt, who feels no remorse and accepts no responsibility, is easily capable of tampering with a national election.

It would seem that he has nicely rewarded those who took the journey with him. And still continues to do so.

Bolton? Up to his ass in Plamegate. "Forgot" testifying to the prosecutor. This guy is the right choice? No, clearly he's not. But qualifications have little to do with his appointment. Bush owes him. And he's exactly the kind of guy bush can work with.

Gonzales? Lets make a guy who sneaks around figuring out ways of torturing human beings the attorney general, OK?

Same thing as bolton. Stooges who have been faithful to chimpy and who have been rewarded, despite their qualifications.

There is a point to these comments. The point is that, when you consider how much bush owes the people who empowered him, and when you accept the fact that he is a liar who refuses to accept responsibility for the things he does, how much of a strech is it to see the guy rig an election.

Yeah, I know. Bush is a moron who lacks the brains to conjur up schemes like this. That's why he surrounds himself with waste-products like the turdblossom.

And we all know that fixing a nation election, and getting away with it, is probably the only thing that could possibly give the turd-blossom a boner.

Yeah, rigging 2000 was the start of the deception. The lies have continued to this day.

Now, tell me what the dems have done that even come close to rigging the results of a presidential election. I'de love to hear it.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

15. Read through the site you are pimping. No mention of vote suppression

in OH, or mysterious "glitches" giving shrub lots of votes.

A survey of the entire site might lead one to conclude, despite claims of nonpartisanship, that a slant towards stories favoring Republicans and defaming Democrats was present! But that could be just me! :eyes:

I don't think I'll be giving them any money, thank you very much!



08.02.05
Report: Democrat Operatives Far More Involved In Voter Intimidation And Suppression In 2004, Thousands Of Americans Disenfranchised By Vote Fraud On Election Day

AC4VR Report (Html Version)

AC4VR Report (Pdf Version-13.17MB)

07.01.05
In Impoverished East St. Louis, Ill., Vote-buying Is One Of The Few Things They Do Well
Associated Press


06.30.05
GOP Leaders Say Probe Should Continue
News-Democrat

[OKNancy]

17. Republican group

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001276.htm

As reported here earlier today, the U.S. House Administrative Committee hearings yesterday in Columbus featured testimony from St. Louis attorney, Mark F. (Thor) Hearne, II of the "non-partisan" American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR).

According to Internic records, the ACVR was established on the web just last Thursday and early investigation into this group would seem to indicate that it is little more than a front group for Republican operatives with little or no interest in actual "Voting Rights" at all.

While Hearne is listed as a witness for yesterday's hearings on the U.S. Committee for House Administration website as "National Counsel, American Center for Voting Rights", there is no mention of his affiliation or extensive work for Bush/Cheney '00, '04 and other Republicans.

Hearne, a former Reagan Administration official, is the National Election Counsel to Bush-Cheney ’04 Inc. and was Missouri counsel to Bush-Cheney ‘00 Inc. As well, he was General Counsel to Republican Missouri Governor Blunt.

He is pictured, at a March 5, 2005 Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) reception in Ohio, at the bottom of this article. The RNLA is an off-shoot of the national Republican Party.

But Hearne is not the only high-level Republican operative working for the tax-exempt "non-partisan" 501(c)3 organization...

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

16. If there is no evidence behind the allegation that Dems are behind

more vote fraud than Repubs, just an anonymous accusation in this "story", then you should point that out.

Otherwise it might lead some on DU to conclude that you are merely pimping this story and site, while pretending to "make fun" or be mad about it.

I'm just sayin'.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

18. That's what it seems like, no?

this is a message board where RW sources are not allowed.

[Bouncy Ball]

19. You're actually quoting GOPUSA AND CNS News on this board?

CNS "News" is one of THE crappiest, most horrible "news" organizations out there. And I'm using the term "news" VERY lightly here, they hardly qualify at all. They are a propagandistic outlet pretending to be a news source. More than most nowdays and that's pretty hard to do.

Give me a break. It's reich wing propaganda.

KAZAAM!

[evil eggplant]

21. I know

I can't help it. They're funny. Have you checked out their forums?

OK, I'm not trying to be witty, I'm serious about this. What makes them tick? Everything they touch turns to shit, and they're all "God Bless GWB" and all that pitiful shit.

How can you stand behind this guy? We all know what he is. It's so damn obvious what he is. And these assholes stand behind him.

I know what GOPUSA is. It's not about their message (obviously). They seem to use the same mechanism to dilute the minds of their readers as chimpy uses to dilute the minds of the American public.

Understanding how these guys do the things they do is important to me.

[Flying Dream Blues]

22. Total crap. I didn't think it could get any uglier than it was

when they were OUT of power. I was consoled somewhat by the idea that we would get a rest from some of the ugliness of their spiteful hatred of Clinton when * was appointed in 2000. God, how wrong could I be??