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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:41 PM
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John Bolton:Warning that Iran "deception" mustn't be allowed to continue
is on record "It will be too late. Iran will have nuclear weapons."
{right! similar to what Iraq had}
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/



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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:41 PM
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1. John Bolton can shut up and sit down.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:43 PM
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2. It's *this administration's* deception that mustn't be allowed to continue
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:44 PM
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3. Here we go
count down to IRAN. Why the hell ELSE would Bush want Bolton in the UN???????????
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:46 PM
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4. It's a chess board and Bolton needed to be in the right place to start the
Iran War...
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:23 PM
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21. Where's the Gong Show when we need it?
Can't we just have a giant Shepherds hook swoop in and yank Bolton off the worlds stage?

Please?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:47 PM
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5. Yep.
n/t
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mpendragon Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:48 PM
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6. no more of those sneaky, underhanded tricks like in Iraq
with all of that "not having weapons". Iran has nukes because we threatened to invade them. They didn't have them before because they didn't need them. Now they do.

Bad for us but that's what happens when you (sort of) elect people like Bush.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:51 PM
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7. Didn't take him long to start banging the Iran war drums
Meanwhile the CIA is saying Iran is 10+ years (meaning we don't know but they are no where close now) away from nuclear weapons. Gee, I wonder who I should believe?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:54 PM
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8. Except, Iran at least 10 yrs away from bomb:
See this in its entirety in greatest threads. So no, Bolton, you don't have a leg to stand on!

WaPo: National Intelligence Estimate says IRAN AT LEAST 10 YEARS FROM BOMB
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 12:12 AM by Nothing Without Hope

This was on the front page of Tuesday's Washington Post. This NIE (National Intelligence Estimate) finding on Iran needs to be kept ready to rebut the rabid claims of key US neocons and some Israeli politicians that Iran will have a nuclear bomb very soon unless they are stopped. Note the wording in the article - the best estimates are that at least 10 years are required for Iran to be able to acquire enough of a key component to be able to build a nuclear bomb.

The next time you hear Jerome Corsi screaming about mushroom clouds in New York City:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Or Cheney or Bolton spewing about how Iran is a great threat to the US, remember this estimate.

The NIE is the best estimate available, and it says Iran is at least 10 years from nuclear bomb capability. So when the Bush administration tries to spread fear about an imminent nuclear attack from Iran, THEY ARE LYING, just as they lied about Iraq, and we MUST make that crystal clear to all Americans with any sense left.




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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:59 PM
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9. What else can we expect from the liar to congress?
If he'll lie to them, who else will he lie to? Everyone? Will he lie to Bush?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:02 PM
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12. Funny yesterday they said 5 years from nukes
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 06:03 PM by walldude
Anyone remember this exact same bullshit about Iraq? First it was 5 years then Blair said 2 years then it was a year then the President said as soon as 6 months. Watch for the Iran numbers to magically shrink as they get closer to using Iran as a test for their new "tactical nukes".
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:00 PM
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10. Bush-Cheney-Rice-Rumsfeld will start with the mushroom cloud warnings
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:01 PM
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11. Saw tapes of him from 1994 throwing a tantrum on Al Franken.
Yup, just who we want talkin' for us!
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:04 PM
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13. And so it starts.....
I expected this from the * admin but the thing that makes me so mad is that the morans taking up almost half of our country will fucking believe him!!!! :mad: :grr: :banghead:

demgurl
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:08 PM
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14. Check out these three threads on Iranian nuclear capability or its lack:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
Thread title: Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

All three are important to understanding what it happening. The first is on the TRUTH - the NIE (National intelligence estimate) about Iranian nuclear capability and its conclusion is that they are AT LEAST 10 YEARS AWAY FROM A BOMB.

The second is the statement from a Bush front organnization which attempts to undermine the NIE report and says we really need to pay a lot of attention to what Iranian "dissidents" say. Remember how useful Chalabi was?

And the third is an excellent and very scary article from Ray McGovern, who emphasizes how we must push against the misrepresentation of the truth about Iran by Cheney and others. Bolton has long been a m ember of this gang and I believe it's the main reason they want him in the UN now - he's there to assure that the criminal policies of the Bushies are not stopped.

All three threads are linked to in the opening post of this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:12 PM
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15. First day on the job
and already stirring the pot. Sheesh....here we go (got your seat belt buckled?)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:17 PM
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18. First day on the job:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:14 PM
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16. He's Correct!
Except it's HIS Iran Deception that must not be allowed to continue.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:15 PM
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17. Great
So the issue is not whether we can fight mulitiple wars at any one time. We are going to put to the test our capability to lose multiple wars at any one time. Explain to me where the cannon fodder will come from.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:19 PM
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20. I am not worried about this asshole,Bolton.
Does anyone seriously believe that China, Russia or even the UK will listen to this asshole?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:48 PM
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24. not worried about this asshole,Bolton.? Bush got away with it, Bolton
will start it and Bush will have full confidence in "Bolton's decision" then when it backfires Bush will accept Bolton's resignation just like "Slamdunk's"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:17 PM
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19. Hey, did you hear about the yellowcakeuranium from Niger?
fuck fuck fuck
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:27 PM
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22. To War, To War!
Then it’s war!
Then it’s war!
Gather the forces!
Harness the horses!
Then it’s war!


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Each native son will grab a gun.
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In case you haven’t heard before
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We soon will say goodbye
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Our spirits will not lag,
Until the judgement day.
We’ll rally round the flag, the flag, the flag, the flag!

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:43 PM
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23. Well, we now know where the evacuating US. troops will be going
next year. I truly believe it's Bush's dream to be the next President to use a "nucler" bomb as he sits in the comfort of the war room giving a raised clenched fist as he did when the first bombs were dropped on Iraq. How can this happen without retribution in the US.??
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:52 PM
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25. This isn't new -- and it's even older than Iraq
I ran across this article in some surfing I was doing earlier today. Read it, folks:

Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power
by Thom Hartmann
What if there really was no need for much - or even most - of the Cold War? What if, in fact, the Cold War had been kept alive for two decades based on phony WMD threats?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1207-26.htm
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:02 PM
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26. break out the leaked NIE report on Iran
Except the MSM, of course, won't touch it.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:15 PM
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27. It's front page in Monday's Washington Post
See this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1980753
Thread title: WaPo: National Intelligence Estimate says IRAN AT LEAST 10 YEARS FROM BOMB

and more in the links in this combined thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
Thread title Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

Now it remains to be seen if the other media pick it up.

We should have a letter-writing campaign on this!

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:25 PM
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29. fat chance it'll show up on TV, then
We all know better.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:22 PM
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30. Keith Olbermann may well carry it - he's been almost the only
consistent truth-teller for months.

His email:
KOlbermann@msnbc.com

More background in many links in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
Thread title Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:19 PM
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28. Ctrl + H
Ctrl + H

Find what: Q

Replace with: N
-----------------------------------------------
Ctrl + H

Find what: Saddam Hussein

Replace with: Ayatollah Whatshisname
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Ctrl + P
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