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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:33 PM
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Federal Leak Case Has Formidable Grand Jury -- It’s Mainly Black Women
Federal Leak Case Has Formidable Grand Jury -- It’s Mainly Black Women
Date: Monday, July 18, 2005
By: Michael H. Cottman

In the new issue of Time magazine, reporter Matthew Cooper writes that he testified before a federal grand jury last week -- a panel that was predominantly black and overwhelmingly female.

"Grand juries are in the business of handing out indictments, and their docility is infamous," Cooper writes. "A grand jury, the old maxim goes, will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it of them.

"But I didn't get that sense from this group of grand jurors. They somewhat reflected the demographics of the District of Columbia," he wrote. "The majority were African-American and were disproportionately women. ... These grand jurors did not seem the types to passively indict a ham sandwich. I would say one-third of my 2-1/2 hours of testimony was spent answering their questions, not the prosecutor's."

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/leakcase719

I think this is wonderful, these woman will see the truth
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:57 PM
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1. Oh my God! This could be very good for America but bad for
the TICS (thugs in charge).
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:58 PM
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2. I think it is great and somewhat
ironic that this jury will decide their fate....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:59 PM
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3. All these old white chickenhawk lying warmonger men brought down by a
group of down-to-earth African American women.

Wow.

Such sweet karma.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:03 PM
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5. "Down To Earth" African American Women? How Do You Know Their Personality
types?

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:09 PM
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9. I read the fucking article.
The essence of which said that these were straightforward, thoughtful, intelligent women who asked lots of good questions and who were NOT about to "indict a ham sandwich."

I think that one legitimate way of interpreting that is that they are being very reasonable and down-to-earth (i.e. straightforward) about the matter.


What's your problem with that????




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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:00 PM
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4. I will only speak for women, but we HATE
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 02:00 PM by mtnester
being lied to..HATE it

People ususally pay when they lie to us...at least me anyway.


ON edit - I better say that I may not be speaking for all women, but at least the ones I know so I don't get my butt in touble.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:05 PM
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6. You are speaking for me.
Lie to me and I'll make sure you never forget that you lied to me.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:16 PM
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11. Hah, I am with you on that
lie to me and I will make you pay all your days

Grudges are something I also do well :)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:08 PM
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8. I am not big on Lying
I teach my daughter, whatever you do, don't lie to me. I can handle anything but that. So yes, I guess I am one of those women.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:15 PM
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10. I'm the same way
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 02:15 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
I feel when it comes to lying I tend to judge the act of lying harshly even if there are validating reasons behind it. I can take the truth, even if it's not pretty, so don't lie to me. It's belittling to me as a person. I wonder if this is a reaction some women have due to being "sheltered" for our own "good" and thus treated as less than equals for many generations?

If you want to earn my wrath, just lie to my face. You will regret it when I find out, of that you can be sure.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:16 PM
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12. Yep, lieing or trying to play me for a fool,
will put you in shit's creek with me....
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:31 PM
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14. You're right. I hate being lied to and I hate hypcrisy - these
assholes are going down.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:07 PM
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7. Don't think it's non-PC to say I prefer these women jurors to white men -
who, I believe, support by a pretty clear majority today's Republican party.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:27 PM
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13. What He Means Is
that he thinks these women are naive and stupid and will not understand the implications of what the architects of this outing of Plame did. He thinks that the jury will let them get away with it.

However, I believe that he is seriously underestimating them, because I think that it is members of oppressed groups that have the best judgement becuase they have seen and experienced what people can do and black women are a doubly oppressed group.
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