Should CNN be fined?

[H2O Man]

Novak did swear. This is no laughing matter. I have children, and as a parent, I think that Novak's behavior should have consequences.Will the religious right seek punishment? Or does the left have to draw the line in the sand?

[Son of California]

1. Let's pull a Hillary

and steal the moral highground right from underneath them!

[Hokie]

2. Damn staright

This is at least worth half a JJ nipple.

[NYCGirl]

3. First of all, the FCC cannot fine CNN, because they have no jurisdiction

to do that for cable TV. Second, do you really want MORE censorship? Revenge is just not worth that.

[Eric J in MN]

29. Bingo. The FCC doesn't regulate the content of cable, and

that is the way it should stay.

There are conservatives (like the Parents Television Council) who would like Congress to change the law and FCC indecency fines to be levied against cable.

SpeakSpeak News, of which I'm a writer, is fighting for Free Speech:

www.speakspeak.org

[H2O Man]

37. I'm mildly surprised

that anyone would think that I am serious. Now I'm wondering ..... if some people on DU would think it was serious enough to say, "That's a bad idea" .... could it hold potential for those who at least thought it was mildly amusing to spread to the right?

[Eric J in MN]

41. Suppose you send an email to PTC saying

this proves their position that FCC indecency rules should be extended to cable, and suppose they repeat that on their website.

What is gained? I'd prefer that the PTC DOESN'T argue that position more than they already do.

[H2O Man]

44. I'd prefer

that the PTC debate Bob Novak than anything else. My guess is that there is very little chance that the extreme moral outrage that a few DUers -- including myself -- will go much farther than this thread. I'd even be willing to bet that America will look just about the same tomorrow as it did today. Perhaps the one chance we will have as a nation, to turn things around before we reached that point of no return, we be remembered as the night that Bob Novak swore, and good people sat back and did nothing.

[annabanana]

4. BIG bucks!!

How much did the Jackson boobie cost?

[napi21]

8. That wasn't cable. I honestly don't want CNN fined. I just want

NOvak to be fired. He has ONE job to do on that show, and it's only 1/2 hour a day! As far as I saw today, he can't do the job!

Find someone else!

[H2O Man]

26. Of course

the suggestion is tongue-in-cheek. There is no chance that CNN is going to be fined for this. But it is important to take time to laugh during times of cultural struggle. And if we can't laugh at Bob Novak, we might miss an opportunity to focus attention on what a jerk he is.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. And fine them for cheerleading the country into a war on error.

[wtmusic]

6. No

Petty. Let's take the high road.

[H2O Man]

14. Petty?

Petty? Petty? For goodness sakes. I think that this is as serious as the Runaway Bride. I'm hoping you aren't the type of subversive who would call THAT "petty."

However, out of respect for your stance, I will not ask you to donate any funds to the Organization of Religious Groups Against Smutty Material (ORGASM), although people like you will benefit from the work we do.

[Jackpine Radical]

18. You're in ORGASM?

I've heard that's a group with a lot of up-and-coming members.

[H2O Man]

22. I think we need

to take a position on swearing. Especially swearing on tv. How many children will be left homeless as a result?

I'm also terribly concerned over the difference between President Bush using the phrase "war on terrible," and Donald Rumsfeld calling it, "the struggle against really bad people." What does this mean for our country? Let's drop this whole Plame business, and forget about those soldiers killed in Iraq in the past couple days. We need to get our priorities straight.

[rateyes]

7. Are there different rules for cable than there is for

network TV? If they can be fined, I say let's file a complaint with the FCC. And, after Laura Bush's joke about * milking a male horse....sounds finable to me as well.

Edit to add: OK, you all have convinced me...let's not complain...you're right about censorship...let's just enjoy the fact we don't have to look at his ugly mug for a while.

[NYCGirl]

9. Yes, there are different rules for network and cable. NT

[Eric J in MN]

30. Cable tv is exempt from FCC indecency rules. Also, satellite radio. (nt)

nt

[Lannes]

10. Great question

He might get a pass because its on cable,the FCC might try to cover his ass by using that defense.Id love to see them fined.

[NYCGirl]

11. Who will fine them? The FCC can't. NT

[H2O Man]

17. How about Dr. Dobson?

There are children involved. To paraphrase Jim Morrison, grown men may also be weeping .... policemen yurning in their badges .... and young mothers yanking their children off playgrounds. I don't mean to question your sense of patriotism, or to imply that you seem the type who advocates burning the flag. But don't you worry about the children?

[Jackpine Radical]

20. I think Dr. Dobson should be granted the power to levy fines

for moral turpentine.

[H2O Man]

23. It's only right.

I think we need to allow him to be in charge of discipline in schools, too. We don't want children growing up to be like Bob Novak or some rapper.

[Cha]

51. Yeah, dobson should be right on

this. What was that thing he was Outraged about..I was reading earlier?

Oh yeah, he thinks stem cell research is like nazi experiments..there's that word "nazi", again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4264603

[Lannes]

27. If its out of the FCC's jurisdiction..

Maybe CNN would fine Novak just to make a statement.They are going to take some heat for this and they may consider it a good PR move.Thats what I would do but Im not holding my breath.

edit for clarification.

[jojo54]

12. What about the FCC fining Novak personally?

I agree with the censorship angle, but this will be another thing "they" get away with if there's no sort of reprimand.

[Eric J in MN]

31. There is no exisitng law to do that.

There are bills in Congress for that sort of thing, unfortunately, but no laws in existence.

[brettdale]

13. mass email the parent family council group

What is thier email address?, they always make a fuss, I wonder if they will say anything about Novak?

[jojo54]

15. Do you mean the Parents Television Council?

Here's their website contact page, if that's who you mean.

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/contactus/main.asp

[brettdale]

16. yes

Thanks for the link.

[H2O Man]

19. Beauty.

Bob swore. If a person that is associated with the democratic left were to behave like Novak, there would be gnashing of teeth on the right. I believe we should gnash Bob's teeth, so to speak.

[lonestarnot]

21. Yes! 100K! And take it out of Novak's pay!

[H2O Man]

24. Lobby the PTC.

Monkey warfare!

[lonestarnot]

32. Well if they are fined as the law says they should be under new FCC regs

too bad if they don't pass on the debt to the rightful owner.... now on to bigger fish they need fry'n

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[Eric J in MN]

50. No such law yet (nt)

nt

[pitohui]

25. oh for the love of!

yeah we should hassle them for being shitheads but i don't want anyone fined for swearing or being on tv while intoxicated

let us just hold novak up to scorn and laughter

[H2O Man]

28. But

what about the children?

[lonestarnot]

33. LFLOL

[baldguy]

34. Yes!

Think of the CHILDREN!

[H2O Man]

38. A true patriot!

We must do this to save the stem cells!

[startingnow]

35. All Novak Had to Do Was Take Out His Titty And Show It To The World!

:P

[H2O Man]

40. He should be

fined gor that, too. Notice the weak leftists on here sticking up for Bob. Next thing you know, they'll point out he didn't show his tit. Big deal. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." There's a reason that little quote is found in the Bible, the Declaration of Dependence, and the United States Constitution.

[startingnow]

48. No...

No, I'm saying that, this is all he had to do to be suspended from CNN? They should have fired his ass a long time ago! What I was actually getting at is, in America, to get people riled up, you have to show your breast, not just out a CIA agent.

[Montauk6]

36. I agree, where's Bozo and Wildman?

Maybe if Novak had cussed while singing a rock tune at a benefit concert to help the poor...?

[dr.zoidberg]

39. Well, it depends on what he said.

What exactly did he say? 'Cause if it was good, then he deserves a medal or something.

[Hugin]

42. Maybe... But, Novack should go on a 7 second delay.

It's only fair.

[ConfuZed]

43. No!

No one died and no one will die over the word bullshit I've heard worse walking by an elementary school :)

[H2O Man]

46. How can you be positive?

There may have been children who would have been on their way to a scout meeting, who instead were forced by Novak's demonic rantings to use drugs. Dead. Or maybe their parents aborted them. I sense that you have also forgotten Poland. If you hadn't, you would have made the obvious connection between swearing in elementary school and Bob Novak's swearing. It is obvious that Pat Boone has not played a central role in your life.

[Swamp Rat]

45. Fuck no! - AND - Hell yes!

:D

Fuck no!: Fines for "swearing" are the epitome of ridiculous.

Hell yes!: CNN should be fined for allowing Novak to lie repeatedly on TV.

[H2O Man]

47. If we fail to make a stand here,

might I ask, "What's next?" There are many stories of cities struck down in the Old Testicle (I think in the Book of Genicide) destroyed for far less than Bob Novak swearing.

[Swamp Rat]

49. LOL! ... Don't worry, the long chainsaw of god will smite them.

Funny thread H2O Man! :rofl:

[Cha]

52. That's a revealing picture of

Psycho.