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Sun Sep-28-03 08:41 PM
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Poll question: Death Penalty for Corporate Crooks? |
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Do you favor the death penalty for corporate crooks--with due process of law, of course--like Ken Lay and Bernie Ebbers?
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Sun Sep-28-03 08:43 PM
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The death penalty is as archaic and barbaric as the rack or the wheel! I would have no problem with 'natural life at hard labor', however.
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Sun Sep-28-03 08:47 PM
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2. I would like a sentence of forced poverty |
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All money owed victims would be payed back and any extra would be stripped from them and paid into the social security trust fund. The criminals then would be left with the cloths on their backs in order that they look presentable at the unemployement agency.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:44 AM
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28. No death penalty, but they have to cough up all the money they have |
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to recompense their victims. Then put a lien on any future earnings or holdings of theirs that go beyond a minimal standard of living.
Also, no contacat with their associates in crime, or anyone with influence in government.
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Sun Sep-28-03 08:49 PM
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3. Send them to Folsom Prison and not a minimum security federal joint. |
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Let 'em survive on the same yard with all the young thugs their draconian business and political practices they helped create.
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Sun Sep-28-03 08:51 PM
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:15 PM
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21. Yes! They need to go to real prisons |
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and stay there long enough that they will keep their noses clean when they get out.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:41 PM
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they should be put into the supermax prisons that their policies created the need for.
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:50 PM
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:50 PM
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:52 PM
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The state has no right to kill anybody. At all. Thats the end of my involvement with that issues.
That being said these crooks need to be in jail... till thier hearts stop ticking.
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:54 PM
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8. No death penalty for non violent crimes. |
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Give them the power to execute for just any ole thing, then dont be surprised when they knock on YOUR door.
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:59 PM
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10. I disagree with this post... |
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But I would also question the idea that they are neccesarily non-violent crimes. The corporations, among other things, can subjugate workers to the point where they cannot make enough money to feed thier family, or have to work over 60 hours a week. Beyond that many are huge proponents of anything anti-environmental that will make thier bottom line look better.
That is indirect violence... not the same kinda nonviolent crime as arrested anti-war protestors 'commited'.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:01 PM
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12. Fine - lets execute the dope smokers while were at it... |
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After all, all crime is violent right?
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:02 PM
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The scale. And like I said I DO NOT want people executed.
But I guess you do not read.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:04 PM
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14. I just was contrasting your whining over indirect violence |
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Using your definition, its all indirect violence - so who wins in that game? The shop lifter or the rapists?
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:06 PM
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15. I'm going to stop posting... |
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I wasn't whining, I expressed an idea. Good job, buddy. Pollution and overwork kills.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:07 PM
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16. man dont youre insightful |
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:hi: Youre very insightful you have taught me alot when Ive chatted with you online by chance give me a IM. The corporate crooks are bastards, who cause a lot of harm and the end in result as you said could be more crime.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:11 PM
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Just to this guy. I reply with a non-confrontational post and he calls it whining.
Conversations like this are useless.
And, thanks.
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Sun Sep-28-03 10:56 PM
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:00 PM
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11. The Soviets executed "Economic criminals" |
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Not that I favor the death penalty, but it shows their understanding of the damage these criminals do. We send them to a Club Fed somewhere so they can swap notes and come out even more dangerous than they went in.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:08 PM
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But they should be forced to live in destitution and misery.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:09 PM
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18. Military tribunals for Ken Lay and Bernie Ebbers |
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What a great way to test out military tribunals than to try them on Lay and Ebbers. That way we could fix all the kinks in the system.
Even if they were not executed I would favor their imprisonment in a MAXIMUM security prison. And we all know what that means.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:12 PM
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Sadly, a lot of corporate crooks don't even see prison.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:16 PM
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I oppose the death penalty in all cases.
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:34 PM
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Sun Sep-28-03 11:47 PM
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Only for murder, and only when the person is guilty WITHOUT a doubt. Not very practical, I know.
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Mon Sep-29-03 12:01 AM
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26. no. Same rules for everyone |
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:46 AM
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29. I don't support the death penalty in any instance... |
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But I do think that corporate crook should be prosecuted much, much, MUCH more harshly than they are. It's amazing that someone can go to jail for 12 years for possessing a gram of crack -- but if you loot pension funds and defraud investors and workers, you can get off with a slap on the wrist.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:56 AM
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30. Stripping of citizenship and deportation |
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We really don't use deportation enough in this country.
Who would you rather see deported, if you could only choose one: Raul Gonzalez (not necessarily a real person), who came into this country under cover of darkness, works long hours for low pay picking produce which feeds your family, pays his taxes fully and willingly, and wires money to his family in Mexico every week; or Ken Lay?
There has got to be some rathole in sub-Saharan Africa we could send the Enron crooks to. Also the Halliburton crooks, including the man some call VP.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:16 AM
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Recover any and all monies off shore. Hold their families liable as well.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:21 AM
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32. Make them give back to comunity |
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Have them take jobs entry level jobs at Wall Mart and McDonalds to pay back the money they swindled. If they refuse such work then have them take up the roles of a day labor or migrant from another country to perform work at less than minimun wage and have do things that only machines should be perfoming.
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