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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:44 AM
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Computer expert testifies elections in Florida were Fixed
Sorry if this is a dupe.

http://www.iwilltryit.com/fixed1.htm
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:59 AM
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1. .
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:14 PM
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2. Feeneney was the one involved - man does this need to be rehashed!
Recommend!
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:17 PM
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3. nominated. This stuff needs to get more exposure
in the MTM. Hell, *any* exposure would be nice.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:19 PM
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4. When was this
testimony given?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:20 PM
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5. During the Conyers hearings in OH, just after the election. nt
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:25 PM
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6. Saw it all live
The poor guy had a bad case of the nervous giggles. Regardless, his testimony was compelling.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:33 PM
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8. It was that long ago?
I was really out of it at that time, not listening to much in a state of such disbelief.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:30 PM
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7. The biggest story in years
Funny, I don't remember seeing it in the corporate news media.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:01 PM
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25. Well dontcha know...
it's that darn liberal media. :sarcasm:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:34 PM
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9. Thanks so much for
posting this even if it is a dupe there are many who have not seen it. I'm mailing this to people.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:39 PM
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10. Recommended!!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:47 PM
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14. I think the video might be new because I have never seen it before
nt
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:53 PM
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17. It was recorded Dec 13
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 12:54 PM by ohio_liberal
DU's own dzika and I posted it all here. I have video of the entire forum. I don't know who shot that video, but they must've been standing near the same place as I was.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:59 PM
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19. That's awesome. Did it get the attention it deserved?
If not, Nominate!
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:02 PM
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20. Well....
It got lots of play here and at some other websites. But widespread distribution? No.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:04 PM
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26. It's simply amazing
I've never seen the full testimony but am watching it now (I've read all about it though from the 2004 forum). The part I found very interesting was how he said the votes can be flipped to 51-49% for anyone. What was Paul Hackett's and John Kerry's "final numbers"?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:39 PM
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11. BRAD BLOG- KEY ARTICLES IN THE STORY SO FAR...
BRAD BLOG- KEY ARTICLES IN THE STORY SO FAR...

KEY ARTICLES IN THE SERIES SO FAR...

· 12/6/04:  EXCLUSIVE: Original "WHISTLEBLOWER AFFIDAVIT" Story
A BRAD BLOG Exclusive! The story that started it all! Florida programmer, Clint Curtis, tells all about the original meeting in 2000 when Tom Feeney, the incoming speaker of the FL House & one-time running mate of Jeb Bush, asked him to create a "vote-rigging software prototype" while employeed at Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI)! 

· 12/6/04:  EXCLUSIVE: Curtis' Affidavit
A copy of the actual affidavit outline Curtis' charges.

· 12/7/04:  BRAD BLOG Responds to Concerns of Bev Harris
BRAD BLOG replies to concerns of Black Box Voting's Harris who was skeptical originally about Curtis' claims, but has since retracted the bulk of her concerns since BRAD BLOG posted this and responded to her questions.

· 12/8/04:  Clint Curtis Radio Interviews
Media appearances by Curtis after the story originally broke.

· 12/9/04:  Good Questions & Answers
BRAD BLOG answers the skeptics questions.

· 12/11/04: YEI & Attorneys Respond
Initial terse replies by Yang and company.

· 12/13/04: EXCLUSIVE: STUNNER! CURTIS TESTIFIES UNDER OATH TO U.S. HOUSE JUDICIARY DEMS! NAMES FEENEY PUBLICLY!
Curtis shows up to testify under oath! A first-hand report from inside the hearing room!

· 12/13/04: Video (and Transcript) from Curtis' Sworn Testimony!
The stunning video tale of the tape!

· 12/14/04: EXCLUSIVE: Hai Lin "Henry" Nee Pleads Guilty Oct '04 on 'Missile Parts to China' Charge, Set Free!
Illegal alien reported by Curtis as working for YEI is indicted on three counts of espionage, pleads guilty to one, and is let go with probation and a $100 fine! What's going on here?!

· 12/15/04: YEI Issues "Full Statement"...BRAD BLOG Replies In-Kind! With EVIDENCE!
Full statement by company posted on their website. Contains several demonstrably incorrect statements. BRAD BLOG responds to each point, and includes Email evidence and Weekly Time Reports which indicates they are not telling the truth in many points of their statement!

· 12/17/04: Feeney's HOMETOWN PAPER Reports "Vote-Rigging" Charges!
Florida's small weekly paper, The Seminole Chronicle, reports on Curtis' affidavit and his testimony before U.S. House Judiciary Committee members!
· 12/18/04: Curtis Week 2 Media Links & FULL Sworn Testimony Video!
More Curtis media appearances...

· 12/22/04: EXCLUSIVE: Disgrunted employee" charge once again debunked with hard evidence! "Farewell Card" given to Clint Curtis by YEI's CEO! 
A scan of the card given to Curtis at the "Farewell Party" thrown by YEI for him! Including statement by YEI CEO telling him "the door is open" anytime he wishes to return!

· 12/22/04: MSNBC's Olbermann blows story! BRAD BLOG sets it straight!
Keith Olbermann finally reports on the story. Only to get it completely wrong and provide an un-factchecked, one-sided account of the story from the Feeney, YEI point of view. Fails to interview Curtis or check unnamed YEI attorneys bogus claims.

· 12/24/04: EXCLUSIVE: Feeney Attorney Threatens Reporter with LEGAL ACTION!
Seminole Chronicle receives warning letter from Feeney attorneys for simply reporting on this story!

· 12/29/04: EXCLUSIVE: YEI Attorneys send 'Virtually Identical' LEGAL THREAT to Hometown Paper!
YEI Attorneys sending matching letter to Seminole Chronicle! Signed by attorney who was out of the country at the time! Who wrote the YEI Attorney letter?

· 12/30/04: Feeney Statements to Ethics Commission 'Contradicted' by 2002 Email!
Investigation by Daytona Beach News-Journal in 2002 showed that Florida State Ethics Commission whitewashed report on Feeney! Illegally failed to interview key witnesses and review uncovered email showing that Feeney lied to hand-picked commission!

· 12/31/04: Feeney Goes "Off Record" for his OTHER Hometown Paper!
Oviedo Voice gives Feeney's point of view in promised interview, but Feeney refused to go on record for it!

· 2/9/05: Broward/Palm-Beach Paper Enters Feeney, Yang, Curtis Fray!
New Times Broward Palm-Beach issues first report on FeeneyGate! Shows that Curtis' various non-vote-rigging charges have all largely been proven correct over the past three years!

· 2/9/05: YEI Offered Curtis $1 Million for No-Work/No-Show Job!
PLUS: Curtis Answers BRAD BLOG Reader Q's!
A report from Brad Friedman's live Interview with Clint Curtis in UT at the Freedom Cinema Festival. Charges of "hush money" offered by YEI and possibly Feeney to Curtis discussed for first time on BRAD BLOG!

· 2/13/05: Has Hai Lin Nee (a/k/a Henry Nee) turned YEI Informant to the FBI?
Time Magazine article discusses the number of Chinese aliens turning informant for the FBI. Could this be why Nee received such a light sentence in October of 2004 after a four-year sting?

· 2/18/05: EXCLUSIVE: YEI Attorney's Alleged Curtis "Threat" to "Firm and Top Officers" Discovered! Police Report shows not "Threatening" at all!
"In writing" letter reported as so threatening as to require a police report, which was irresponsibly reported by MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is discovered by BRAD BLOG! Letter seems meant as effort to help YEI CEO's executive secretary Mike Cohen, not "threaten" him! YEI may have put Cohen up to it!

· 2/21/05: EXCLUSIVE: Hai Lin "Henry" Nee Confirmed by Federal Officials to be an Illegal Alien!
Report obtained exclusively by The BRAD BLOG from the FDOT Inspector General, validates yet another Clint Curtis Allegation! Nee,the convicted Chinese spy, was illegal when he worked for YEI who also petitioned INS on his behalf!

· 2/28/05: Feeney Caught Lying Again About His Association with Yang Enterprises!
BRAD BLOG discovers private party/reception thrown by Yang Enterprises Inc. for Tom Feeney in 2003! Even while Feeney has been telling media that he's had no connection with the scandal-plagued FL software firm since 2002!

· 3/2/05: FDOT's CLINT CURTIS REPORT RELEASED! - Tom Feeney Client, Yang Enterprises, Overbilled FDOT! Refund Demanded!
Report based on investigation initiated by Clint Curtis confirms YEI overcharged some $300k to Florida Dept. of Transportation...Chalk yet another one up for the veracity of Clint Curtis!

· 3/8/05: CLINT CURTIS INVESTIGATOR'S 'SUICIDE' CASE REOPENED BY GEORGIA POLICE! CRIME SCENE PHOTOS -- SAID NOT TO EXIST -- ARE POSTED ON NET! CONFIRMED BY GEORGIA POLICE!
Raymond Lemme, the first investigator in Florida to look into Curtis' charges, had told Curtis in June 2003 that "the corruption goes 'all the way to the top" and his report would be out soon. Two weeks later, Lemme was found dead in a Valdosta, GA motel room. Crime scene photos -- said not to exist in the police report -- are published on the net! The photos, additional evidence and unexplained FDOT involvement with the Valdosta, GA police investigation raise new questions in this mysterious death!

· 4/7/05: The Moscow Times Covers the Clint Curtis Story!
While the American Media continues to yawn...But perhaps not for too much longer...

· 4/8/05: CLINT CURTIS PASSES LIE-DETECTOR TEST!!!
St. Petersburg Times' Pulitzer Prize winning reporter, Lucy Morgan gets a big break in the story! Then, she goes about screwing up the rest of it with incorrect information, omission, unbalanced comments from Feeney's side only and other object lessons in the failure of the Mainstream Media
· 4/13/05: Miami Herald Discusses Clint Curtis, Decries E-Voting!
For the first time that we know of, Miami Herald mentions the C-Word...Clint Curtis!

· 4/13/05: Clint Curtis Makes Wisconsin's Capital Times!
Who ask, "Is your vote being counted?"

· 4/22/05: Clint Curtis Story Makes Papers Around the Country and Around the World!
(UPDATE: Story also makes its way into Philadelphia Enquirer on 4/26/05)

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Link to full stories-
http://www.bradblog.com/ClintCurtis.htm
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:41 PM
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12. This story needs to be known far and wide.
Rec'd.

Thanks.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:43 PM
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13. Can we combine the two discussions and nominate one?!
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:47 PM
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15. done. Nominate!
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:50 PM
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16. Living in Fla
Thanks for the post,Hope we can get to the bottom of this.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:57 PM
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18. Daniel Hopsicker -"The Big Fix 2004"



Pt. I: Convicted Felons, ‘Shadowy Financiers' Own Companies Counting Votes
 
November 15 2004-Venice,FL. 
by Daniel Hopsicker
 
An investigation into the surprisingly-sordid history of America’s “election services industry” has revealed that executives and owners of the two largest companies, E S & S and Sequoia Pacific, have been convicted of bribery and suborning public officials in more than a dozen states.

And while a felony conviction may be enough to prevent you from voting in Florida, convicted felons can take heart in the fact that the “blemish” on their record in no way disqualifies them from owning companies counting the votes.

In fact, the word ‘coverup’ itself was invented to describe the activities of the original owner of Sequoia Pacific, "shadowy financier" Lewis Wolfson, who got caught bribing no less a personage than a Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America.

While Abe Fortas was forced to resign in disgrace, no such harsh fate befell Wolfson.  When you own a company that counts the votes, politicians smile more kindly on you than they might otherwise... and for good reason.


Con't-
http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6912004.html
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:37 PM
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21. .
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:50 PM
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22. SEND THIS OUT TOO !!!!!!
http://www.electionfraud2004.org/presentation/index.html

an easy to read excellent slideshow for the "just get over it crowd"
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:50 PM
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23. Need to kick this around along with recent Sibel Edmunds story!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:11 PM
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27. Oh yes
Everything ties together and leads to the same people.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:00 PM
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24. Kick and recomemded!
:kick:

Those SOBs stole this country!
People need to read this more often:
(From the article)
Curtis, "a life-long Republican" at the time, claims that it was his initial belief that Feeney's interest was in trying to stop Democrats from using "such a program to steal an election". Curtis had assumed that Feeney, "wanted to be able to detect and prevent that if it occurred."

Upon delivery of the software design and documentation on CD to Mrs. Yang, Curtis again explained to her that it would be impossible to hide routines created to manipulate the vote if anybody would be able to inspect the precompiled source code.

Mrs. Yang then told him, "You don’t understand, in order to get the contract we have to hide the manipulation in the source code. This program is needed to control the vote in South Florida."

Mrs. Yang then took the CD containing the software from Curtis, reportedly for later delivery to Feeney.

In other meetings with Feeny prior to the 2000 elections, it became clear to Curtis that Feeney had plans to suppress the vote in strong Democratic precincts. In the affidavit, Curtis claims that in those meetings Feeney had "bragged that he had already implemented 'exclusion lists' to reduce the 'black vote'." Feeney also mentioned that "proper placement of police patrols could further reduce the black vote by as much as 25%."

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:12 PM
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28. So that is how
they got the list of people to surpress in 2000!!! They weren't ready for the machine's yet so they had to do something. Now they ruined so many lives too (that young doctor that was interviewed in Palast's documentary). :mad:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:38 PM
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29. The Dems deaf ears on this when sworn testimony was given makes
me think that DEms-Repugs....it just doesn't matter any longer, it's all power and money, the rest of it is just window dressing as the slaughter in Iraq continues like a parlor game.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:41 PM
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30. I never new about the Chinese spy part. I can't believe Mrs. Yang
isn't being investigated. They should at least care about STEALING NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS! Fucking Bushco is probably selling them to make MO MONEY!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:28 PM
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31. kickerino
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:52 PM
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32. It's up... it's good! n/t
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:40 PM
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33. Man, he's got brass b*lls.
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 10:41 PM by Spiffarino
He needs to stay out of private aircraft, drive in packs, and sign an affadavit that states he is definitely NOT suicidal and lock it in about 17 different places.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:27 AM
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34. .
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:31 AM
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35. Pretty old news... and,also, completely unconfirmed.
I looked into this myself when Brad Blog first broke the Clint Curtis story. No other computer programming employee at Yang will confirm this. Neither Feeney nor Yang nor anyone else named by Curtis will talk about this, or else they cannot recall it. And several points in the story -- such as Curtis being a "life-long Republican" -- are demonstrably false.
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