Has the Social Security "reform" thingie finally gone away

[Fire Walk With Me]

or will they ram it home when no one is looking, like they did with Bolton?

[Son of California]

1. a lot of Repub Senators up for re-election next year

to them right now, that fucking Social Security Garbage is toxic.
So I doubt they will.

[vogonjiltz]

3. They said social security is the third rail for a reason.

[Ernesto]

18. Make that every congressional seat in the nation. n-t

[dweller]

2. *moron called for Congress to roll over

as soon as they are all back from vacation.

dp

[notadmblnd]

4. No, they're gearing up for act II of this tragedy

nt

[Faygo Kid]

5. I work for AARP. . .

And proud of it, and a member. Never get complacent. We won't, but we need all of us to stand together. For maybe the first time in this administration's history, we can beat them. No small feat. And the chip that causes the wall to fall.

[wli]

6. the elections are all rigged, they don't need to care about votes

They'll rubberstamp anything Cheney tells them to, lest they care to have Cheney send them some anthrax.

[FreedomAngel82]

7. They'll bring it back

When W has nothing else to do they'll bring it back.

[applegrove]

8. Gosh no! They need that to make the takover complete. So people

who will not make any money in the stock market will vote for perpetual war & perpetual markets. They don't give up. They are machines.

[shanti]

10. * will NOT let go of this

he has to have his way EVERY TIME. SS reform is to be the cornerstone of his legacy.

[applegrove]

12. Along with tax reform to make it impossible to ever get the rich

to do their part & sacrifice in this time of war or to keep inflation down. It has all fallen on the backs of the middle class.

Plus they need the infusion of cash into the stock market as a one-time boost to the market (& there have been many of those to stave of a correction - with every tax cut). So that the recession will be good & ready to drop on the head of the next Democratic President.

[shanti]

16. i agree, but

what "next dem president"? they have this pResident thing wrapped up with diebold!

[applegrove]

17. They play bad games with the elections. But I for one do not believe

that they have proven in any way that diebold numbers have actually been changed. I know the machines konk out and spew out irregularities. I know not enough machines were present in important democratic ridings. I know about the intimidation & the vetting African Americans from some polls & not latinos & white people with felony information..but I do not agree the machines have been fixed. It is just another wedge to drive between you & me democrats. They create fear & then people react to that 'fear of elections being tampered with by machine' and you and I react to it according to varying life experience and understanding of nefarious types. And then we are at each other's throats. This pays off big time and think at election time 2006 how we will be at each others throats because we believe different things about the machines.

That is why the GOP & bush WH will never fix the transparency issues. Because it pays off with smashing our big Democratic tent to pieces. That is why I am all for voting rights regulations. Because we need transparency back. And I will fight for that beside you.

Personally - my take is that it is more important that 'exit polls' are not played with with phony subjects & phony answers than diebold. But we agree on just about everything else having to do with dirty tricks.

It is the varying degrees of fear - that will smash us apart. I am not saying I am right & you are wrong...or the other way around. I am saying that until their is sure proof - we just cannot get on the same page on this one. And that is the wedge that pays off. Provoking fear in their enemies is a tool sociopaths use to separate one person from another.

[Nite Owl]

9. Was at a town hall meeting last month

held by my congressman. There was a panel which included someone from American Enterprise Institute, I think his name was Alex Pollack. He was absolutely abominable. Called the survivor benefits and disability benefits the 'welfare' part of Social Security. The idea he presented was to have private accounts that would be TIPS (inflation protected treasury notes). Made it sound oh so logical, it would be yours, safety insured etc. I googled him and found a speech he gave and this is how they plan on getting the privitization through. These notes wouldn't give more of a return and then people would want to move to the stock market in a few years. It would be the foot in the door that would get people used to the whole privitization idea. It would take a few years but they would ultimately get just what they wanted.

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

11. they'll try their damndest to plow it on through,

whatever it takes, I'm sure. C'mon, we already know they have no scruples...they aren't gonna give it up *that* easily.

[spanone]

13. Just like the 'energy bill' it will die down then pass it in a flash.

Bushco is slowly destroying any balance of power this nation has known.

[Sapphire Blue]

14. Get Ready: Social Security Privatization Push is Coming in September

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x20746

[Cleita]

15. No, they are still trying to steal from the old. It's not getting much

press today. They still have a lot of time to ram this through when we are looking the other way, if we don't impeach them soon.

[DefenseLawyer]

19. It is dead. It is no more. It has ceased to be.

It has kicked the bucket. It has shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisible.

[Zorra]

20. Republicans are planning to eliminate Social Security.

It is one of their highest priorities. Eventually the fascist republicans will do away with it, possibly even by the end of Bu*h's 2nd term. The PNAC needs, and is going to take, the funds from our Social Security trust to pay for their eternal wars for empire.

By 2015, starving, homeless 80 year old folks that can't work will be begging in the street for crusts of bread after the Social Security pensions they were counting on are used to fund the republican war for empire.

This is not a joke, the republicans really are planning to completely eradicate Social Security.