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Sun Aug-07-05 02:04 AM
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Anyone who can join Cindy Sheehan should think about heading out |
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to Crawford. It would be awesome to see her protest grow to be tens of thousands and force Bush to have to come out and talk to her and look like a fool. This could be the start of a major shift. Cindy needs all the help she can get.
Unfortunately, I can't go but I would if I could.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:06 AM
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It might make a better news story if there is a huge crowd, but Shrub won't show his face regardless of how many are there. Whether it's 1 person or 1,000,000. He's got more important stuff. Bein' pwesident is hard work.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:07 AM
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4. Doesn't matter. If there are THOUSANDS there, how can the press avoid it? |
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:37 AM
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29. I think it would build momentum--keep kicked and recommend |
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And it gives people the idea that it's ok to agree with the peace movement. These are moms who have lost their kids and will make an impression to those sitting on the fence.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:06 AM
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2. I agree 1000%. Remember the suffragettes???? |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:06 AM
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3. How long will she be out there? |
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I was going to drive up today, but didn't make it. I live in Austin (about 2 1/2 hours away). I wanted to film it, but it looks like she is getting plenty of coverage...
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:07 AM
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5. I think until Bush comes out to talk to her. So probably a long time. |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:08 AM
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6. i was thinking of driving down from amarillo monday |
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if things are still going on
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:10 AM
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7. if we can do a quick orginizing of people in texas and new mexico |
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and pick a day to drive to them and support. school doesnt start back until 16th.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:13 AM
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8. Why not try to connect with other groups? |
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Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 02:18 AM by Carolab
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:25 AM
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26. You left off Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mexico. |
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Easiest for those in southern OK, western side of Louisiana and southwestern tip of Arkansas.
And don't forget all of Texas. Crawford is just a hop, skip and a jump away from Ft. Hood, San Antonio is just down the road and in Temple/Bolton we have a very large VA hospital (rumor has it is being shut down). This is one hell of a militarized state and then some.
Thank you all and yes we can make this effective and it is an action to stand proudly behind.
www.veteransforpeace.org www.mfso.org www.crawfordpeacehouse.org
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:17 AM
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10. How long till she gets her son back? |
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LIke welcome aboard and all but if you spent some of the best years of your life raising your child so some piece of shit could send him out to get killed needlessly how important would time look like to you at that point?
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:18 AM
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12. I'd do the same thing for my son. |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:40 AM
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18. Nothing but respect. This lady has a lot more character than Bush... |
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I think I would have fallen apart and be in a mental institution or in jail after trying to have a man to man talk with Bush about his lack of intestinal fortitude, intelligence and compassion.
I hope this whole Bush insanity brings the vast majority of Americans, and for that matter the world to the realization that violence is the absolute last resort in a justified cause.
Here we have violence in an unjustified cause
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:46 AM
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31. Welcome to DU SwimmerFilm! What a great idea! |
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She can use all of the coverage she can get. Maybe you could even post back with us and let us know how she is holding up?
Peace.:patriot:
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:21 PM
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51. She could always use more coverage. |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:15 AM
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9. Absolutely what I was thinking |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:20 AM
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When I went and saw Fahrenheit 9/11 there last year, there were all sorts of Bush fanatics picketing, etc. I haven't seen this group meet opposition yet, except through police. That's a good sign.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:24 AM
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:18 AM
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11. I'm thinking about it. I will have to contend with the wife (who thinks |
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Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 02:23 AM by LibInTexas
I'm way too left-wing) and the job situation. But I'm in Dallas, a mere 126 miles north.
If I go, I'll take my digital video camera.
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:35 AM
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28. I'll pay for your gas if you want, I'd go but I have an unbreakable app't. |
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(I'm very serious, DUmail or email me if you wish at krs@ispwest.com can paypal if that'd work.) I think DUers will mostly vouch for me on this... :D
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Sun Aug-07-05 08:09 AM
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39. I'd be happy to contribute $ also |
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to this effort to mobilize people to Crawford Impeachment tour.
Would need a centralized credible source to make sure $ got to right people.
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Sun Aug-07-05 07:58 AM
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I just had to inform my wife that I AM going to be in DC sept 23-25. not happy but she understands.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:19 AM
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13. I'm Cindy's lawyer - we have a group heading over Wednesday |
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This thing may last a while. Next weekend may be the watershed. We're heading over assuming that if the vigil is still going, it will be a circus by the 20th.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:22 AM
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15. Awesome! Thanks for all your hard work! |
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:28 AM
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17. Is their a way you can get the word out on Air America? |
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I am sure someone here on DU could get you or Cindy an interview and help get the message out for people to come down. Guy James is also a regular poster here on DU. I am sure he would love to have you on his show.
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Sun Aug-07-05 08:10 AM
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40. Yes, The Guy James Show would love to have you |
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We did have Cindy as our guest about a month ago. She is one very fine lady and a great, eloquent spokesperson against Bush's war.
Guy
ps. please pm me about an interview
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:40 AM
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19. We'll see her tomorrow.. |
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I figured what the hey. If its still going on next weekend Ill go and camp with her. Now, bear in mind, my husband is asleep so he has no idea that this is what I have planned for tomorrow. We shall see what he thinks. :)
Can anyone tell me the legalities of picture taking?
For instance, can I take pictures and video of the SS harrassing Cindy, or will they demand I stop filming or surrender the device or whatever?
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:46 AM
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20. You have every right on public property to take pictures of anything |
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that you see. The only exceptions would be if you are compromising national security, which I doubt would be the case 5 miles from the ranch itself. See: http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdfWarning! PDF format.
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:55 AM
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That is exactly what I was looking for :)
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Liberal In Texas
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Sun Aug-07-05 02:58 AM
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22. Great. I'm going to stick a copy in all my camera bags. Just in case. |
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Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 03:01 AM by LibInTexas
On edit: And I must say, this came from another DUer on another post several days ago. I can't remember who posted it, but what a nice find.
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:03 AM
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23. Impeachment tour bus. Veterans for Peace |
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Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 03:29 AM by anarchy1999
It is on AAR right now.
Yes, Cindy is determined and she will be receiving a lot of support from everyone in the near Texas area. Thank all of you!!
Many of the Vets I spoke with tonight really want to see us all get behind Cindy and support her for as long as it takes.
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:07 AM
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24. Sorry for being dense...what's AA? n/t |
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:27 AM
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27. Oh, Ok...I always do the AAR thing. In Texas AA means American |
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:38 AM
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30. Oh, okay. I'm in Texas too and I hate AA with a passion. |
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aa in two different ways. I goofed. I should have written AAR. No confusion there.
Peace.
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Sun Aug-07-05 03:49 AM
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32. Peace with you as well. Time for bed, I think. Tomorrow is another day |
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Sun Aug-07-05 11:33 AM
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47. I can't be there but I'd like to donate. Can you tell me the best way to |
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do it?
It's not much, but I've got my candle in the window for Cindy and everyone else there.
Thanks.
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:18 AM
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if my ass was still in Texas, I would go in a heartbeat! Alas, i am in CA, and am in school. :-( I will pass this on to all my TX friends!
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Sun Aug-07-05 07:52 AM
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36. I'm across the bigpond |
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I've lit a candle in support of Cindy.
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Sun Aug-07-05 08:03 AM
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38. perhaps this will inspire |
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one of the many "Cindys" in the UK to start something similar. thank you for your support Karenina.
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Sun Aug-07-05 08:52 AM
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41. I have 4 days off in August 19, 20, 21&22 |
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So what is the closest biggest airport to fly into to?
And maybe someone will have organized bus trips to Crawford from there- perhaps have ground help already in motion. I'd fly in on Fri the 19th leave the 22nd. Anyone interested in meeting there?
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Sun Aug-07-05 08:57 AM
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42. Fly into Austin, or Dallas? |
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finally found my good maps. Almost looks like equal distance.
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Sun Aug-07-05 11:21 AM
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45. Cindy's lawyer expects it to peak around the 20th |
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48. Waco is closest airport |
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Sun Aug-07-05 09:51 AM
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43. I'm thinkng a weekend trip-- drive up from Houston w/ hubs (& kids) |
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there are rooms avail in Waco next weekend per hotels.com
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Sun Aug-07-05 11:29 AM
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46. so how to organize. i am not an orginizer. i see different days |
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mine would be a 10-12 hour drive? i dont know. i will do it once. if we can get a day
i see other sites that i was given will check those out today also. see if there is interest in picking a day.
lets do it. wont it be a surprise for people to gather on one day. the media is there. sittin doing nothing while bush is on vacation. and they hate sittin in crawford doing nothing while bush is on vacation
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49. Email me and I will hook you up with people on the gound |
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info@newdemocracyrising.com
note: "Forward to Buddy"
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