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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:25 PM
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Horror story of a conservative town in California
This story is a little long but is a good illustration of the little evils that take place in Conservative America.


......I can remember as a kid going out every Friday and Saturday night to see local rock concerts performed by local bands. This was where I went to hang out with my friends, to meet girls, to entertain myself and for the most part stay out of trouble. When I performed with one of my bands at these concerts, it was an extraordinary feeling, something I would hope every young kid out there would have at least a chance to experience.

For a town that isn't that big and doesn't have that much going on in the realm of entertainment, these local concerts where a great positive outlet for kids. To be honest, there were always a few underage kids sneeking beers and the occasional joint but rarely were there ever problems with violence and most parents felt safe to let their kids attend these concerts.

our local civic leaders have been doing everything they can to end All local rock concerts for kids.

There has never been any shortage of local businesses here who want to provide a venue for these concerts. For the most part, the business owners involved are just good people who remember what is was like to be a kid and are trying to give back to the community. These business men and women, however, have endured all kinds of manipulation and dishonesty at the hands of our city offices. When they go into city hall and ask for all the proper permits, they are not given the full paper work. They are charged money to file their papers and after being charged are told that they are missing papers that they need. They are told that they must file with up to nine different offices, and each office tells them that the office before instructed them improperly; "No, no, you have to do it this way." -and then the next office does the same, around and around in a circle. The run around is so ridiculous that many business owners give up before they are even started. Even when they have managed to make it through this byzantine gauntlet, the costs of obtaining all the proper permits to legally host a local concert are so unreasonably high as to force the business either to charge unfair amounts of money at the door or to give up all together.

Even when they have done all this, businesses are still not in the clear. Every local business that tries to host local concerts is routinely harassed by the police. While I would by no means suggest that the presence of police at any public event is bad, I would point out that they are not simply there to supervise and assist. They are there to place the entire event under the most stringent scrutiny, looking for the slightest technical flaw by which they can shut the show down. This has happened over and over again, for the most paultry of reasons.

Not only that. The planning commission routinely inspects the buildings at which these concerts are held, trying to find anything slightly out of code with which they can threaten the continuation not only the concerts, but of the business as well.

With all this, most business men and women who try to host local shows have no choice but to give up to save their business, putting the kids on the streets and in harms way.

You may say, "Why don't you elect a city council that will lift some of these restrictions." My answer is that most of the unfair restrictions are coming from our planning commission and our police dept. -from people who are not elected and who we cannot get rid of. I would also add, that many of the people voting in my town do not understand the problem, and therefore do nothing to change it. Most of our local elections run parallel with federal elections, which are much more vigorously advertised, distracting voters and letting figures running for local office escape much needed scrutiny.

You may not think that this is such a major problem yet, but let me give you a startling statistic:

STOCKTON HAS THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA CRIME RATE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

We beat San Francisco and Los Angeles -even Compton and Oakland if you can believe it. A great deal of that crime is being comitted by young people.

While I cannot scientifically prove it, I believe that many of the young people comitting these crimes would not be, if they only had more positive outlets. The problem is that our city provides none. Most young people want the ability to go out on the weekends and meet their friends in large groups, hang out together, hear music, dance and have fun. Basically everything being a teenager is about. These events have to take place somewhere, and since the city has cracked down so hard on local businesses, many kids are throwing houseparties, where there is absolutely no adult supervision, and a lot worse things take place than would at a valid business location.

Then of coarse, there are the kids who drive in circles around the town on a Friday night, looking for something, someway to vent their frustration, their anger at the amazing limitations put of them: many times, this vent is something illegal and/or dangerous.

These kids need help to convince their community leaders that they deserve a chance to be kids and enjoy the things that their parents enjoyed when they were growing up.

Let me close by saying I believe that music (even when embodied by an amateur bunch of kids trying to play rock n' roll) is a beautiful thing. It gives people hope. My friend, Calvin summed it up perfectly when he said, "Stockton is a town without hope." It is true. I know my hometown isn't the only one suffering this problem. I know that all over the country, the radical religious right is doing their best to legislate their personal beliefs into law, and to force everyone else in their community to live by those stringent standards. I believe that this is what is happening in my town. They may have the best of intentions but, as is always the case with arrogant presupposition, the results of their actions have only been destructive.

I can't think of anything more American than a bunch of kids getting together at the local coffee shop or pizza place on a Saturday night to hear their friend's play music. What makes American so beautiful is that people are supposed to have the choice here, to be able to do that if they want, not to let it be taken away by misguided, short-sighted leaders who think less about providing their community with the freedom of choice and more about enforcing their own limited moral views on everyone else.

I am sure, with a little research, that you will find this phenomenon going on across the country. I believe it is part of a larger radical religious agenda -an agenda not entirely unlike the radical religious agenda that so many brave men and women have sacrifice their life to fight against in Iraq and Aghanistan. Please help to bring attention to this growing problem, not just in my home town, but across America.

Music is the voice of God, and refuses to submit.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:44 PM
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1. I figured it was Modesto, .song "Stuck in Lodi,"they were escaping Stocton
and got stuck in Lodi again..

same old story in Modesto..But i have been gone now for 10 years..:woohoo:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:48 PM
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4. Modesto is an hour due east of here. I very rarely go there.
It has better shopping than my small town, but I'm no shopper. Shopping on a disability income is a recipe for disaster. I order necessities over the Internet, buy almost no clothing, etc. I've worn the same sneakers for over four years. It's about time to buy a new pair.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:54 PM
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10. I get all my clothes at Yard sales and GoodWill. 6'6" tall 16B shoes i get
thru the Internet, I Found 7 pairs of "Primo" Levis, the Casual fit, more room in he legs.. not a stain, LIKE NEW for $1 each, You have to have a list and speed shop the Yard sales, my mother and I went out for a couple hours every week.. till we got the kitchen utensils for 25 cents each.. sheets for the beds a dollar.

we lost about everything between having 3 REALLY GOOD gobs outsourced to china and mexico..in 5 years, we went from $85, thousand a year to weeks from being homeless.. lost our house in texas after getting the air conditioning, tile floors.. insulated windows.. we didn't do anything extravagant, just energy efficient replacing old crap.. but it was really nice when we got done.. we broke even.

then we moved to TN and that job gets out soured to Mexico within 7 months, but we are in good company.. sharing the suffering from the idiocy of * we are among the 24,000,000 who lost our lively hood to NAFTA to make the filthy rich enjoy a bigger tax cut... we had to leave nearly everything there. but Yard sales saved our asses...!!
and we made some friends in the process.. we travel to jackson about 38 miles away and shop at the higher end sales..
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:50 PM
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5. Modesto is doing really good right now
as far as having a lot of arts and entertainment, mostly thanks to George Lucas (Modesto native).
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:44 PM
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2. This has been going on ever since there was rock and roll.
From day one rock and roll was considered the devils music and that is back on the 50's.

My suggestions are, make a lot of noise about it so it gets into the papers and becomes a local hot button issue. My next suggestion is to have schools put on the concerts.

Also have outside concerts in parks.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:46 PM
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3. Stockton is a hellhole.
Every time I drive through there I get the feeling something is seriously wrong with that town. Geez, and I thought Fresno was bad.

I live in an even smaller conservative town in the foothills, but kids can use the great outdoors as an outlet. If they don't like the great outdoors, I'm not sure what the hell they do for fun. When I was kid, I fuckin' thought I was Daniel Boone or something. :)
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:01 PM
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6. there's a handful of nazipoos doing it
whenever you have this kinda oppression, you find sneaky little men conspiring together in the dark, and usually making money while at it....identify who the ratwingers are, and let others know; bush has exposed all arm bandits now, they are bush, in effect, so go after them (there are people who know exactly who the bullying fukkheads are)
it's 'high noon' everywhere in america...but remember, the marshal won!
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:18 PM
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7. Red Tape? Try installing a sign in Pasadena.
I know it's off the subject here, it's just my mini-rant.x(




I sure feel better, now.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:22 PM
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8. Fun is bad
How can you get people to long for the afterlife if life isn't shitty?
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:30 PM
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9. ah! you've unravelled the mystery
of why Radical Christians hate sex so much!
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:57 PM
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11. Start with some Jesus bands
Seriously.

Get some Jesus bands in the style you want to hear come and play. The repugs will not only quit blocking you, they will support you.

Do it half a dozen times to get a strong precedent set.

Then invite whoever you please and take your evidence of those concerts to the local judge to injunct the local government to allow them.
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 03:56 AM
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12. dude
radical conditions call for radical measures.
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