This shit is really starting to get out of hand...

[kentuck]

Where is the "uniter" we heard so much about? How would it hurt him to sit down for 10-15 minutes with a mother that lost her son in his war of choice? Why is he so obstinate in face of such a request? Now they are threatening to arrest her? Get real! Who in the hell does he think he is? He works for the American people - he doesn't work for Karl Rove. He could resolve this if he wished.

[babylonsister]

1. I share your outrage! nt

[BabboonBush]

2. Surprise!

He really doesn't care. That should not shock anyone. He cares only about himself and his oil/business buds.

This situation is putting Bush where he belongs - on the spot, and between a rock and a hard place. If he agrees to answer Cindy's questions, he'll look like a baffoon and will dig himself into a hole. If he doesn't meet with her, he looks evasive and uncaring towards our servicemen and their families. Ha!

[rodeodance]

8. lets hope it is a reall hard spot!!

[Talismom]

40. Yeah, right up his you know what! n/t

[babylonsister]

9. Hey, BabboonBush, welcome

to DU! The more the merrier! :toast:

[BabboonBush]

19. Thanks!!

[cornermouse]

21. Uh...

He has looked uncaring toward our servicemen and women and their families on multiple occasions for quite some time now. Think about it. Lack of armor on vehicles, bulletproof vests, cuts to schools on military bases, cuts to veteran benefits, charging them for hospital food after they've been injured, trying to cut their pay, to name just a few.

[FreedomAngel82]

46. Don't forget

he closed a lot of bases here for some reason. My grandfather was in the navy and he didn't like it at all. He understud but what he didn't like was the closing of the really big base up north.

[rzemanfl]

22. Maybe he could wear the wire he wore at the debates and they

can tell him what to say...

[annabanana]

33. HEY there, BabboonBush!

Lo-o-o-ove your username! Welcome to DU! :toast:

[Sparkman]

35. well put...and once again, * is AWOL when just a visit or two to G. Stars

when so few have asked for some one-on-one from the most vacation addicted president in history. welcome BabboonBush!

[Horse with no Name]

3. He is just proving a point

that nobody can make him do anything he doesn't want to.
Sad thing...he is right and he wants to be as "in your face" as he can.

[Initech]

5. I believe the point W is trying to make is:

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

6. Yeah, *, Cindy is really a "threat to national security."

What a bunch of bullshit!!

[rodeodance]

10. I think he sees her as a war protester--tranlated--equals terrorist.

[FreedomAngel82]

51. Well that reminds me

of what I saw on the "Unifinished Symphony" the soliders protesting in Lexington and they wanted to camp out on the lawn where the British were and they showed a local cop saying they were worried about their "mental health". :eyes: Yeah, right.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

17. actually, it makes shrub feel insecure, and like kings of old, he

is America. in his own mind, at least.
Since he is the nation, she is causing him to be insecure, ergo - it is a matter of national security.

[FreedomAngel82]

48. And he can't control it

If he does go out there he can't control it like his little "town hall meetings".

[JohnnyBoots]

4. This really needs to be out in the media a lot more than it is!

[ewagner]

7. I've been thinking about this...

where the hell is the famous (or infamous) Bush Charm that so totally disarms anyone who meets with him personally? If there was such a thing as Bush Charm he would have absolutely no fear of meeting with Cindy. He could disarm her with the famous Bush Charm and turn a bad situation into a win.

In other words, the famous (infamous)Bush Charm is just more right wing bushit!

[Catrina]

23. Well, they forgot to say that he is charming

if you're a billionaire. These jerks planned their war and Bush et al didn't realize that those 'toy soldiers' he thought he could play with, were actually people. They don't have big bank accounts, so they're not human to this crowd.

As far as these people are concerned, the troops are nothing more than chess pieces.

He's probably in shock that they turned out to be humans, and worse, their family members actually care about them and are demanding that he stop lying. No one ever told him that before.

His arrogance is beyond belief!! Cindy is making him face real people. I bet he's throwing temper tantrums inside that ranch. So much bad press, from one mother who loved her son!! This was something they didn't plan for. How could they? They're not human!!

[Lisa]

52. yeah, I thought that was supposed to be his secret weapon!

Wasn't he supposed to go on all these "charm offensives" that would heal the country after the 2000 election, and completely win over those overseas leaders?

And didn't he say that he viewed it as his personal duty to hug all the bereaved families and comfort them?

I must confess that I was quite eager to see this in action. I'm not a particularly charming person, so I was hoping to pick up some tips. Here is a guy who isn't particularly handsome or accomplished, but he was supposed to be incredibly sweet and endearing. At first, when I saw the news footage of him being arrogant and peevish, I thought I was just the "librul media" out to get him. But then I realized that he ALWAYS comes across that way, regardless of who's reporting.

Because the "Bush Charm" only works if you really, really want it to. (I thought the true test is whether it works even if you don't believe in it.)

Personally, I find his "charm offensives" offensive.

[movonne]

11. He also has the media out there smearing Cindy....

[gratuitous]

12. Meet with one person who disagrees with you

And you might have to meet with another one. And where would THAT lead? Bush has to stay away from Cindy Sheehan at all costs.

[judy]

13. No, he can't resolve it...

He can't really sit down with Cindy.
What could he say that was not a lie?
And would she let him get away with that?

"Why is he so obstinate in face of such a request?"
Because he knows her son got killed so his buddies could make more $$ and have more power. Is he going to tell her that??

Seriously...What do you think he could say? Other than BS like "Freedom on the March" and such!

[NeoConsSuck]

37. Yep, I don't think Cindy could handle

a bunch of cliches from the Texas Pig Farmer.

[smoogatz]

14. They're saying they already met with her--which is true.

Us peons are lucky to get one royal audience, let alone two. What are you thinking?

[dbt]

15. kentuck, he wouldn't do it at gunpoint!

The Little King has been pretty much content to do as his handler$ have told him since Day One, but this unthinking, knee-jerk refusal to even consider meeting with Ms Sheehan is so WACK that it could only have come from bu$h himself.

"I won't do it. I won't, I won't, I won't! And you can't MAKE me!" Can't you just see the Worthless Little Fuck stamping his foot and tossing his Little Lord Fauntleroy curls?

:rofl:

[tridim]

16. Dictators don't bow to the will of the people

and they certainly don't speak with the people. He's just doing what he said he'd do.. "A dictatorship would be a lot easier, so long as I'm the dictator". I wondered at the time why he said that, now we know why.

[Clintmax]

18. Yes, all he cares about is his oil...

I am disgusted with his bullshit!

[TrogL]

20. He's on vacation

Not like my "vacations" where I can't be more than 30 minutes away from the office in case something happens.

[Hailtothechimp]

24. Calling her "mom" in their meeting is so heartless.

Does he not realize that's probably what her dead son used to call her? Of course he doesn't, he's just trying to be cute in his perverted frat-boy way. This country deserves so much better than him.....

[Booster]

25. I, too, am outraged over an American, ANY AMERICAN, who

would harbor a traitor and then shun the mother of a soldier who died simply because of his lies. I am ashamed of our government, both sides, Dem & Rep, who won't go down there and stand by this woman who is not afraid of any of them. Shame on Washington DC.

[fooj]

26. Yes! Shame on OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS who work for US!

Peace.

[HereSince1628]

30. There won't be a member of congress willing to support her.

I doubt even Jesse Jackson would show up.

[sendero]

27. If they arrest her..

... they will rue the day they came up with that idea.

[HereSince1628]

28. I believe she has a constitutional right to do this. The 1st Amendmen

is intended to make impeachable the right of people to peacably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances.

Her son was killed in a war for which the reasons seem contrived at best. This is a legitimate grievance. She and her supporters must approach this peaceably, but I have no doubt that that is exactly her plan.

She is clearly farther away from "the compound" than any free speech zone in history.

If her appeal is considered illegal, then the Bush administration has denied her of her constitutional rights.

Should this happen, the time will have come in the course of events when the American people must dissolve the political bands that have connected them to their Executive and to assert for themselves the Power to remove tyrants from the government so that the rights of United States citizens shall not be lost from the earth.

[mcscajun]

29. He doesn't meet with her, he loses...he meets with her, he still loses

it's a politicians nightmare...a lose-lose scenario.

If he gives in, he opens the door for others to protest to get Their "audience" with His Chimpness. He's equated her with terrorists, and you don't negotiate with terrorists. :sarcasm:

If he doesn't...he loses in the public eye.

:popcorn:

[Lisa]

53. if he were a genuinely good, well-meaning person, he could turn it around

He could have met with her, had a long heart-to-heart talk, and won her over with his earnestness and compassion.

But of course, if he really were that way, he wouldn't have sent her son off to die in the first place.

[mcscajun]

55. Bingo!

On both counts.

But since neither is the case, he loses all 'round.

[tavalon]

59. Yep

When this first started, I said that I wished she had thought of this earlier because we could have planned a huge protest. I take that back because our planning would have given them time to figure out a response. With her deciding to do this last minute, she ambushed them. And never have a group of people been more deserving of such an ambush.

It's a beautiful thing. And she is an amazing woman. I know many people have compared her to Rosa Parks but to me, what she is doing reminds me of Ghandi.

[flordehinojos]

31. the sit down with cindy sheehan might force him to have to look at himself

He does not want to do that...he prefers to live on the image that someone has created for him...possibly one that he has bought into and believes in his head to be the reality.

So, may Peter Jennings rest in Peace. I do not admire Peter Jennings. If he were alive and well he would be very much talking about anything else other than cindy sheehan and the bully dictator who is holding our country hostage.

but they say that dying is walking into the fountain of truth...and if that is the case and peter jennings has been illuminated by the genuine fountain of truth...perhaps he can intercede and cause some of his c-o-l-l-e-a-g-u-e-s who have elevated him to some sort of god like status, to start looking at the truth about bush and start reporting on it.

that would be soooooo koooooooool and sooooooo neeeeeeeat.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. If I were a Dictator it woudl be more easy

Goerge Dubya Bush, 2000

That says it all

by the way, Kansas 1857 here we go again, and have fun

[Imagevision]

34. This is most disgraceful for a President - Bush, no character!

whatsoever.

[Sparkman]

36. AND once again, AWOL! Just a few GoldStar Moms' isn't to much to ask?

Visit them and learn their names, Mr. War President! Yale Grad, Bonesman and son of a President! The ruling aristocracy clan is heartless.

[Cleita]

38. He proves every day with his actions how un-American he

really is. Somewhere along the line he imagines he is a king. Someone forgot to remind him that he is a servant of the people not the other way around. But the man gained office in an illegitimate manner so he is not our President really, but a pretender.

When this is all over, I really think we should impeach those members of the Supreme Court who decided in a legal matter that they had no jurisdiction over to appoint this man our President although there were laws in place to decide the Florida election that they treasonously ignored. They should be made an example of so it never happens again, even with any new members the Bush may appoint.

[karlrschneider]

39. Hey, let's not solve his "problem"...let him stew in his own filthy juices

over this. I say the longer he stonewalls the more people will realize what a cowardly chickenshit bastard he really is!
:D
:evilgrin:

[LibDemAlways]

41. All his life he's let other people fight his batttles

for him. Why should he step up to the plate now?

[orpupilofnature57]

42. Got out of hand when the ? %, pulled the lever for the 2nd time, assheads!

Tis the porno every society gets that deserves it.Kkkarl and his boss played on our weakness of faith ,courage, and sacrifice, not to mention using casuistries to free villains from guilt.

[Talismom]

43. Can you see what a storybook perfect situation this is?

Cindy Sheehan is as sweet and pure a character as the little boy who finally yelled out, "But the Emperor has no clothes!" No one can really impugn her motivations or honesty so the situation is a no win for the "King". He's a vain and arrogant fraud and there is no way for him to make himself look good in the face of her accusations! It is positively delicious to the many of us who have been waiting so long!

[jonnyblitz]

44. "he works for the American people, he doesnt work for Karl Rove"

what a great comment!! right on kentuck! :thumbsup:

[FreedomAngel82]

45. I think

George is uniting but not the way he was talking about probably. LOL.

[Nothing Without Hope]

47. Remember when he refused to meet with Max Cleland? He's such a coward

and only wants to appear in front of hand-picked adoring crowds and speak from a script, prompted by a hidden microphone.

Cindy Sheehan is a real person, but Bush is a total fraud as well as a criminal.

[spanone]

49. He's the epitome of THE ASSHOLE we've all known somewhere in our lives.

n/t

[Swamp Rat]

50. He's a "uniter" alright.

:eyes: :puke:

[cry baby]

54. Cindy is the UNITER.

So proud of her spirit and courage.

[Burried News]

56. How I see him.

[Ian David]

57. Well, he's united Iran, Syria, Libya, North Korea...

[tavalon]

58. No, actually, he can't resolve this

And I know you know he was never a uniter. That was just Orwellian bullshit.

However, I've been joking for a while that he has become a uniter on one front. Have you ever seen the left so united? In a way, he brought us together. Not intentionally of course.

[Hekate]

60. Why? Arrogance, hubris, moral blindness, pettiness...

I'm sure I left something out.

Where are the Eumenides when you need them?

Hekate

[leftofthedial]

61. he is the most despicable piece of crap in US history.

[deacon]

62. He asks soldiers to put their lives on the line, yet he is afraid to face

one woman.

[terrya]

63. He's the Sun King now. He doesn't have to deal with the riff-raff.

I honestly think he sees himself as a sort of benevolent dictator, answerable to no one.

He'll NEVER sit down with Cindy Sheehan. Never.

[mopaul]

64. we ain't seen nothin' yet

unfortunately. anyone with eyes and half a brain can see where this is all going, and it ain't disneyland