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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:31 PM
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Cindy Sheehan has already won.
If Shrub remains hidden - he's publicly exposed as a coward; to afraid to meet with a dead soldier's Mother. And the WHOLE world is watching his craven behavior. Here in Germany, people around me are very much aware of what's happening in Crawford.

If Shrub (finally) comes out of hiding - Ms. Sheehan forced his hand. One person would have brought Shrub to heel.

Either way - Cindy Sheehan has already won.

I sent my card of support.

I wish I could stand with her in Crawford.

This is a defining moment.





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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:35 PM
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1. That's why they need to make her a "Terra-ist"
They will classify her as a national security threat and send her off to a concentration camp with no access to a lawyer just like Jose Pedilla.

And then all the stories will come out about how this was an attempt to physically assault the Resident.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:39 PM
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7.  Shrub is capable of anything.
We know that.

I'm hoping for the best.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:53 PM
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32. Bush has to squash Cindy problem NOW! as outrage grows!
this slimebag of a President hasn't the understanding or compassion to show to this very courageous woman.

He states her sons "sacrifice was for a noble cause"??? and is about to have her arrested? -- He works for her and for us, we pay this mans salary with health benefits! This is the character in which this President is made of.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:58 PM
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44. He doesn't see his own hypocrisy
He just doesn't register with him...



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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:41 PM
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10. You can bet your sweet ass they'd like to TRY that, but even turdblossom
has to know it would be political suicide. They're between Iraq and a hard place and I'm loving every minute of it. :D
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:57 PM
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42. Either that
or they'll make her out to be crazy or something. I know I've mentioned before but in the documentary "Unfinished Symphony" the reason they gave the veterans for not sleeping on the grass where the British fought in Lexington is because they were worried about their "mental" health. :eyes:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:11 PM
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60. Fascists always use mental illness as a means to imprison...
Just look at the Third Reich.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:36 PM
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2. Yes it is a "defining moment"--agreed-- n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:40 PM
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8. Indeed!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:36 PM
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3. There is no win
for Bush** in this one. If he were capable of feeling something and expressing it he might be able to pull it off but since we all know that no matter what he says or does it will fail it leaves him with no way to win. She stated from the beginning that she was ready to be arrested if it came to that so she won right out of the gate.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:42 PM
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12. I appreciated that aspect of it...lose/lose for Shrub
Hi Muse!!!

And you're right - he can't say anything that will help in any way...he just doesn't have it in him to be human.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:58 PM
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43. Hey Solly!
:hi:

Are you all coming back? I heard a news report that the soldiers in Germany were all coming back to Ft. Riley. I have been having computer problems so I can't find it again to check out what all it said but I immediately thought of you.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:00 PM
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46. Not us - but a group from Wiesbaden is coming to Riley
Our post is safe for another 10 years...we'll retire in that time and seriously considering retiring here.

I think it's Wiesbaden anyway...lol
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:04 PM
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52. YAY for you
Boo for me. I was hoping that we could have met before you left but it just was not to be I guess. I have a cousin who lived in Germany, sang opera, and she loved it there. I also have a friend who has lived there to sing opera for many many years. She will be home to sing with us in September. She loves it there too.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:06 PM
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56. There are a lot of "depends" but we already know we're extending
our original 3 year stay...to finish out his contract and retire. IF they allow us to leave.

That's the biggest depend. It's really hard making plans for the future when you don't know if you're getting out or not.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:58 PM
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45. I agree
This could be the beginning of the anti-war movement. Mrs. Sheehan will, hopefully, go down in history for starting it!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:36 PM
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4. She's a helluva woman. No doubt. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:44 PM
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22. I'm awed by her. I really am
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:54 PM
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69. you can't help but be....
that woman is super strong. Words don't really describe her. None exist that do her justice.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:37 PM
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5. Yes I agree. Are you German btw ? nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:43 PM
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16. Not German but American.
Just live here. :)
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:44 PM
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19. ah ok nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:38 PM
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6. nominated because...
...it ought to be on the front pages of every paper in the land

CINDY SHEEHAN Has Already WON.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:44 PM
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20. She really has...any way people look at it...CINDY SHEEHAN Has Already WON
:hi:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:56 PM
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38. Yep the shrubistas have to use helicopters in and out of the pig farm
to avoid a middle aged woman with a broken heart and a will of steel standing in a ditch in the blazing Texas sun.

Where's b*sh? AWOL again!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:19 PM
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68. Cindy Sheehan for President...
"the shrubistas have to use helicopters in and out of the pig farm to avoid a middle aged woman with a broken heart and a will of steel standing in a ditch in the blazing Texas sun"

SHE is showing THEM what type of character and integrity a President ought to have. Can we have a REAL President, now? Even if Cindy didn't want the job...can we at least get someone with some intelligence and a CLUE? I never thought THAT'd be too much to ask in a leader but apparently it is.

She's making that piss-poor excuse for a human look REALLY BAD. And, Well. He IS.

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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:40 PM
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9. This is the same slimeball who talked about..
what hard work it is to hug the widows and mothers. He can't even put his beer down and walk down the driveway to meet a woman who has paid the ultimate price of admission.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:46 PM
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23. Exactly...he won't even take a short walk to speak to her
but oh, he can pay lip service and wrap himself in the flag...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:41 PM
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11. Very much so.
Moral strength versus cowardice.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:42 PM
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14. Precisely!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:43 PM
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18. The world is watching.
And the administration knows it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:49 PM
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27. It's palpable...their knowing
I can all but hear Rove's little hamster working overtime..."how to spin this?"
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:53 PM
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33. Are you watching Dick Gregory
on Fox now?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:54 PM
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35. Tuned into Fox just for you...just now
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:42 PM
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13. And should they be stupid enough to go through with Thursday...
The backlash will make his current troubles look like his salad days.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:50 PM
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28. I think there will much outrage should they do that
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:05 PM
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54. Indeed, it could turn all but the heartiest of kool-aiders against him
Which is where they should be already, were their fortunes not tied to this little man and his billionaire boosters.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:42 PM
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15. It is a no win for W
How can he explain an unjust war? How can he justify the loss of one American life for a country that was never a threat and who never asked for our "help". Sheehan has guts.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:50 PM
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29. Agree!!!!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:13 PM
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62. Bush should kneel down pray Cindy doesn't die of a heat stroke
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:43 PM
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17. I know what you are saying, but I wish you wouldn't frame
it as a contest. This isn't about winning or losing, but about human decency, or the lack of it, from our Prez.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:52 PM
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30. Well, then let's say good has won against evil
is that better?

I never meant to imply it was a contest.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:44 PM
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21. SWEET! "Here in Germany" It is music to my ones ears!!
Just keep standing where you are, we'll take your back here in Texas and surrounding states.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:09 PM
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59. You do wonderful stuff!!!!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:46 PM
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24. the Crawford Coward
that I always knew he was
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:52 PM
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31. Crawford Coward
I love that!

Why have I not seen this everywhere?

This would be great for any DUers headed to Crawford.

Get it so dense the media could not avoid it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:53 PM
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34. That's great!!!!!!!!...he's the C-in-C or the Coward in Crawford!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:57 PM
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41. oh, yeah!
The CinC, Coward in Crawford concept could be a great driver.

If someone could get this out there it would be great.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:14 PM
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64. Bush, there absolutely nothing of moral value in this man
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:47 PM
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25. Yes, Cindy has already won no matter what happens because
the Dimson was outsmarted and can't handle PR because he has no compassion for anybody. Everytime he tries to show it, he comes off looking like he's hating it. I remember when he and Laura walked up to Reagan's casket, they bowed their heads, and I swear 5 seconds later he looks at her, throws up both hands as if to say "that's all I got", and the picture of him walking away from placing a wreath I believe for the people of England, the look on his face was "Shit, I hate this stuff". He's cold and callous, and we don't need him to be president of a country that prides itself in its compassion.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:55 PM
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36. What you said!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:49 PM
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26. It's sad it had to be her instead of our elected representatives
to get in his face like this. She is a strong woman.

Hey Solly where's your banana? :P
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:56 PM
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39. It started glitching so I removed it
lol! I'm in search of another one.

I might hafta edit my sig lines and remove a thing or two...
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:56 PM
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40. I wished Cindy would run for president...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:55 PM
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37. It is amazing to watch
I think it's amazing of the support she is getting all over the world.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:02 PM
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48. I am in awe of her courage and her determination.
I'm somewhat ashamed that it took the heroic action of a grieving mother to get this country to stand up and say "Enough is enough"!!!
God bless her. She has the heart of a lion...

Peace.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:02 PM
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49. It really has been!
Much respect for this woman...much respect.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:07 PM
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57. I heard her on Ed Schultz today and she said
she was so amazed at all of the support she has gotten.

She said "I don't need to ask for anything, people all over are sending things to me."

Yes!!!

She is a winner!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:01 PM
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47. I hope the other folks who's kids have died because Bush lies
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 09:11 PM by Hubert Flottz
will also have the guts now, to add their voices to this brave lady's noble cause!

This lady is the kind of leader this country needs! She has a spine!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:03 PM
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51. I agree!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:03 PM
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50. She won the hearts and minds of the world! n/t
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:04 PM
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53. LOL! Something Shrub can't do...... and never will do
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:15 PM
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65. The Power of One Mother's HEART



:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:08 PM
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70. Beautiful!
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:06 PM
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55. The chimperer already set the tone for this when he sent the
local dogcatcher to meet with Max Cleland. He is a coward who has never been held accountable for ANYTHING in his entire life. I don't expect him to start now with Mrs. Sheehan.

Cowards hide and let others do the work for them.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:09 PM
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58. You're right
He'll send others to cover for his cowardly behavior.

Still..I'm so proud of Ms Sheehan. She needs to know the world is with her.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:14 PM
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63. This is all it took
Someone had to punch the bully in the nose.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:12 PM
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61. You're absolutely right Solly Mack...
She has won.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:16 PM
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66. She's a woman of great courage
and she dwarfs Shrub in every way possible.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:17 PM
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67. Thursday is a big day for Bush - Big for Cindy too either way!!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:11 PM
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71. Though Bush Inc do the stupid all the time...let's hope
this time they don't.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:32 AM
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72. I do believe you are right.
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