Young Conservatives of Texas Bake Sale was bad Idea?

[DeathvadeR]

I must be trippin. I just read the latest top ten conservatives list and the section that deals with the bake sale is confusing.

The idea of normalizing costs of goods based upon the individuals(race or gender)potentiality of income seems like a good idea to me?

example..........statistics I have ssen in the past have shown that the average white male makes more then others, hence the highest price for the cookies $1. Statistics also have shown that women tend to make a little less, they tend to be held out of upper management positions hence the $.75 per cookie to reflest that they only make 75 cents on every dollar that males make. and so on with the other priced cookies.

Like it or not these statistics tend to be true and i realise the importance of makeing everything fair across the board for all, this just isn't the case, and nothing seems to be working very, not even discrimatory action laws.

To me the bake sales forces one to look at the truth about incomes based n races or gender then helps to correct the ills by normalizing the purchase end.
Am I wrong here?

[Patriot_Spear]

1. Translation: Oops, you caught us...again.

RepuliKKKan = racist.

[Mz Pip]

2. That's not what they were doing though

Theese conservatives were trying to show how the upper and middle classes are being mistreated by giving help to the underpriviledged. IT's so not fair to them that anyone else is given a break.

MzPip
:dem:

[LoneStarLiberal]

3. That's The Point (At Least I Think)

The SMU Young Conservatives' bake sale was a bigoted idea because of the context in which they were doing it. Consider the following:

1)SMU is a private institution located in a wealthy part of North Dallas that serves as one of the two main outlets for educating the sons and daughters of the Texas elite;

2)Baking and selling cookies at weighted prices in a setting of priviledge and establishment trivializes the seriousness of which you speak that underlies the issue.

These bigoted children of priviledge did this not to draw attention to the underlying issues that require us to act on equal access and equal opportunity but to make fun of these issues in a derisive manner.

You are exactly right in part of your post: The reason we have to enact and defend programs guaranteeing equal opportunity is precisely because of the conservative myth of equal access.

[DeathvadeR]

5. I understand where your coming from but

Wouldn't a biggoted remark or action harm the individual it was aimed at? This seems to help the underpriviliged. I would bet that the White males were the ones that shut the bake sale down just because they were infumed that they had to pay more.

[Bandit]

9. They were trying to show how unfair Afirmative action is not how good

it is. They were doing the exact opposite of what you think they were about.

[OldSoldier]

4. Too bad there are no liberals at SMU

It would have been humorous for the Young Liberals to pool their money, give it to one black guy and send him to buy out the Young Conservatives' bake sale. Just wipe 'em the fuck out at a quarter a cookie.

[nannygoat]

7. That would have been hilarious, Old Soldier! n/t

[zbdent]

10. And also pretty Repuke of the Young Liberals !

Hire the cheap labor to get the discount and buy up all the stock.

At least the Young Liberals would probably tip the worker and let him have some of the cookies as gratitude.

Young Repukes/Conservatives would do the same thing, then walk 100 feet away and sell the cookies to everybody for 75 cents, as a "bargain"! - selling each other out.

[Liberal Veteran]

6. That wasn't what they were trying to do though....

It's intellectually dishonest to suggest that the idiots who put on this bake sale were trying to underscore the inequities and challenges that minorities face in this society. Indeed, what they were trying to do was established that any method to address those inequities is showing preferential treatment to said minorities and was a slap in the face to those who never had to face those obstacles due to the privilege of being being born white and male.

Attempts at spinning their intent as benevolent is not honest. It's like trying to say that those fundamentalist churchs that have "Hell Houses" on Hallowe'en that show someone dying of HIV disease are trying to bring attention to plight of those suffering from the disease. That is not the intent. The intent to "show" that homosexuals are bad people and this is how God punishes evil gay people for being willfully evil.

The same thing was being done here. The underlying message was "Why should white men have to pay more for cookies than minorities?" not "Why do minorities in our society face obstacles that non-minority citizens do not?".

[metsie]

8. stats

If somebody needs help, they should get help regardless of their race, gender, whatever. There are people of all different colors (yes, white ones too), shapes, sizes, etc. that are poor. The stats you refer to should not be used to determine who gets help (lower cost, etc.) and who doesn't.