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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:24 PM
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What can we do to prevent Iran War that we didn't do before Iraq?
the Bushies are clearly gearing up their propaganda machine, and Bush is even taking his damn pre-9/11 style vacation.

The largest demonstrations worldwide in history didn't stop the Iraq War.

Given the nature of the war plans Cheney is having the Air Force draw up, my guess is the 9/11 this time will have to be nuclear to justify a nuclear response, and to get an equal or greater rallying effect.

Given China and Russia's concern about our bull in the China shop behavior over there, it's not over-stating things to say that this could lead to a global conflict. Unlike the Cold War, the end of the world isn't a likely outcome, but we might end up wishing it was.


What can we do NOW to preven this from happening?

Is there anyway to get the attention of the military and patriotic people in the intelligence agencies to not cooperate and not keep silent?

How can we get them to respond like the Russian soldiers who refused to fire on their fellow citizens at the White Palace during the coup against Gorbachev?

How can we make the right aware that the game plan will fail domestically before they even start?


We need to be pro-active on this and not wait until they put all their cards on the table, because by then it will be too late.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:25 PM
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1. Scream the truth everywhere we can?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:26 PM
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2. Declare a national strike and force BushCo out of power...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:31 PM
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4. good idea. any groups working on this yet?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:56 PM
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9. I don't know, but a good place to look would be......
...U.S. Socialist Workers party:

http://www.socialistworker.org/
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:32 PM
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5. Yes, indeed- a national strike...and not like the passive 'wearing
all black' on inauguration day.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:31 PM
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3. We can be willing to stop traffic this time
We can practice actual civil disobedience. That means no permits, and it means that we risk arrest. It means we don't stay in the 'free speech zones'. We make the entire country a 'free speech zone'.

It means we don't try to 'persuade', but rather try to SHUT IT DOWN by sitting ourselves in the street and refusing to move. And when they drag us away to the police van, three more people come in to take our place, etc...

It means that dockworkers refuse to load or unload military cargo. It means that we all decide to go on strike for one day, or two days, or as many as it takes.

But at the very least, we need to be willing to stop traffic and cause the Machine some 'inconvenience'.

As far as I know, it's the only tactic that's ever actually *worked*.

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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:45 PM
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7. I like your style
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:43 PM
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10. EXACTLY
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:41 PM
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6. The way I see it, peace not war, is in the hands of Europeans and all
the rest of the people in the world. If they remain as silent as our citizens do, we are lost.

Shock and awe = the signs are all there and there is only silence around the world??????

At least Europe is trying to talk with Iran. Are they trying to talk with the U.S. and ISRAEL?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:51 PM
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8. Circulate Juan Cole's article debunking the "bombs from Iran" story.
direct link:
http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/fool-me-once-shame-on-you-fool-me-cant.html

INFORMED COMMENT Friday, August 05, 2005

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me--can't get fooled again

The bizarre report by Jim Miklaszewski of NBC news that US military sources are saying Iran is the source of more sophisticated bombs used by Sunni Arab guerrillas in Iraq seems so unbelievable because it is. Poor Jim is the victim of a high-level Department of Defense black psy-ops operation (or perhaps such an operation has been supplied by a sub-contractor). You wonder if it is Doug Feith's parting gift to the American people-- laying the groundwork for a war with Iran.

snip>

This is a long and detailed article that must be seen, laying out the reality.
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:18 PM
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11. These are really scary times
Please check out www.total411.info

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I apologize if this info has been posted before.



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Wednesday, July 27, 2005
Terror drill alert: NORTHCOM/FEMA nuke in August
Given that the attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were both false flag operations masked by simultaneous "terror drills," it behooves those of use seeking to halt the cycle of synthetic terror and expanding police state to note upcoming drills that could be used as a cover for another inside job terrorist attack. The United States Army's NORTHCOM command has announced one such drill for an indeterminate date next August.

From U.S. Northern Command Jun 29, 2005:
FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario...A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time. The senior leadership felt that it was more important to accomplish training instead of losing up to a day and a half in travel time, said Paul Deflueri, J7 Lead Exercise Planner. "This will allow us to still meet our training objectives," he said.

Some external participants may work with JTF-CS during the exercise.

"We’re trying to get representatives from FEMA Region IV as well as representatives from South Carolina Emergency Management Division and active duty soldiers from the (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive) Consequence Management Response Force to play the role of task force units," Defluri said.

"Each time we do one of these internal exercises, we try to make it more robust and try to add in fidelity," Defluri said. "That’s what we’re trying to do for SR05: create a good scenario and be able to replicate the effects as best we can. That way we can give the command a really good CM exercise."
A 7-25-5 report from rense.com indicates many in the Army and the Marines are hacing their leaves suspended for August. Is there a connection?
Danny, "a former anti-terror marine," wrote: "My brother in law is in the US Army, and was supposed to come home in August and his leave got canceled. I did some checking around, and it seems like a ton of leave got canceled in August for the Army and USMC. Centcom's website tells of a scary drill coming in August. They are running a drill of a 10 kiloton nuclear bomb, being smuggled into Charleston SC. Now while they run drills like this a lot, they always do it at Quantico....and BTW, August 6 and 9 are the anniversaries of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

A number of readers noticed the upcoming Charleston "exercise." Wonder if FEMA will be there? As I wrote in the first column, "If I lived in any of the target zones above, I would keep my eyes wide open to suspicious people wearing official disguises (uniforms), flashing badges, prohibiting entry, working at odd hours performing perplexing tasks. Watch them!"
Concerned residents of South Carolina may want to contact

FEMA REGION IV in Atlanta 770-220-5200 or 770-220-5224 (Fax: 770-220-5230);

Joint Task Force Civil Support at Ft. Monroe at 757-788-6259.

Also alert the possibly-clueless Charleston County Emergency Preparedness Department at 843-202-7400 (FAX: 843-202-7408).
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Watch that nuke! Remember Series 2 of '24' ?

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K..ingstree South Carolina About ten miles from Charlston where the "drill" will be held. And lay's on a train track that starts at the Charleston Harbor. The city is about 3Miles in diameter which would completely be wiped out by a 10 Kiloton Suitcase bomb. And the 3000+ Innocent Men Women and Children.

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