BUSH TO ATTACK IRAN: PLEASE EMAIL AROUND!!

[Chicago1]

Dear All,

I found this posting on Waynemadsenreport.com and was HORRIFIED at what I found. Please email this around especially to the Congress and Senate members. BUSH MUST BE STOPPED FROM DOING THIS!!!



http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
August 10, 2005 -- U.S. prepared to grab Iran's southwestern majority Arab and oil-rich province after saturation bombing of Iranian nuclear, chemical, and command, control, communications & intelligence (C3I) targets. According to sources within the German Federal Intelligence Service (Bundesnachrichtendienst - BND), the Bush administration has drawn up plans to hit Iran's nuclear, other WMD, and military sites with heavy saturation bombing using bunker buster bombs and tactical nuclear weapons. The attack will be coordinated with urban and rural critical infrastructure sabotage carried out by elements of the People's Mujaheddin (MEK), Pentagon Special Operations units, and other Iranian dissident groups. The German intelligence comes from classified briefings provided by elements within the CIA that are concerned the neocons in the Bush administration will, in attacking Iran, set off a chain of events that will lead to world war. Intelligence on U.S. plans to attack Iran has also been passed by CIA agents to counterparts in France, Britain, Canada, and Australia. The Bush war plans for Iran also entail quickly seizing Iran's southwestern Khuzestan Province, where most of Iran's oil reserves and refineries are located. Khuzestan has a majority Shia Arab population that has close links with their ethnic and religious brethren in Iraq. The Bush plans call for a U.S. military strike across the Iraqi border and from naval forces in the Persian Gulf in answer to an appeal for assistance from the Al Ahwaz Popular Democratic Front and Liberation Organization rebel forces in Khuzestan, which will declare an independent Arab state of the Democratic Republic of Ahwaz and receive diplomatic recognition from the United States and a few close U.S. allies. After World War I, Khuzestan was annexed by Iran, then called Persia. There are also plans to incite rebellions among Iran's other minorities, including Azeris and Turkmenis in the oil-rich Caspian Sea region. Other minorities targeted by the neo-con planners are Iranian Kurds along the Iraqi and Turkish borders and Baluchis along the border with Pakistan. The neo-con plan seeks to separate Iran from its oil resources and create an "Irani triangle" centered around Teheran, Isfahan, Qom, and other historically Persian centers. In anticipation of the U.S. attack, the spy sub USS Jimmy Carter has placed taps on undersea communications cables in the Persian Gulf that carry Iranian commercial, diplomatic, and military traffic. In addition, Task Force 121 covert paramilitary forces have scouted Iran using the cover of journalists and businessmen to pinpoint military targets.



Neo-con plans to attack Iran include severing oil-rich Khuzestan Province from the rest of the country and having it declare independence as "Ahwaz."

[Tace]

1. I Hope Madsen's Full Of Shit On This One

But, often he's not.

[Booster]

2. Is that "Ahwaz" as in ours in the South?

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Seymour Hersh predicted that the US would invade Iran in June

when he was on The Daily Show several months ago.

This should not have been unexpected. It will be the next great diversion.....

[BabboonBush]

4. I don't doubt they could do this but

you have to remember, "drawing up plans" is not the same as declaring war. In fact, the Iraq war plans were drawn up a long time ago, for the most part. It sat on the shelf until the proper time (and until a certain someone decided to use it to start an illegal war).

So until I hear that they are threatening Iran, or coming out and giving them notice like they did Iraq, I'll take this with a grain of salt (sort of).

[BabboonBush]

6. 2 other thoughts.

This is possibly why Bush is being so careless and arrogant lately like he doesn't care about Cindy, our troops, or the ramifications of the Rove scandal. Maybe, like I predicted, he has been thinking all along of attacking Iran. And once that happens, the media will be fixated on that and everything else will go by the wayside.

Also, Bush could be waiting for another terrorist attack to pin on Iran. Or, worse yet, are they SO EVIL as to actually perpetrate a terrorist attack on the U.S. to get it all going?

[milkyway]

53. Answering your question: Yes they are, yes they have already, and yes they

will do it again.

[KaryninMiami]

7. Pay attention however, to the GOP banter against Iran now-

They are clearly planting the seeds to justify an attack in Iran. Rumsfeld today saying the bombs came from Iran, Bolton last week gave a warning - every day we're hearing more and more rhetoric from them about Iran misbehaving. It would not be surprising to learn that, as they did in Iraq before the official war, warning bombs have already been dropped over there. And remember- it's all part of the plan. Iraq, then Iran, then Syria.

[BabboonBush]

10. Well I don't doubt that...

We'll just have to see where they go with it. If it continues to escalate with Iran becoming hostile and uncooperative, then there's a far greater chance it could happen.

I've been wondering for the past few days if we'll just wake up one morning and hear on the news that we've invaded Iran.

In a global sense, this would put the U.S. at far greater risk for attack, possibly even from China who lost the UNOCAL bid and is looking for a new source of oil. They are fast becoming a big player on the world scene and will eventually come to blows with U.S. power and dominance in the middle east.

Also think of how we would look attacking yet ANOTHER Muslim country. We would give the terrorists the ultimate gift - a final confirmation that the U.S. is imperialistic and is seeking to overtake the whole Middle East.

[jbane]

8. Plans have to be made for all kinds of situations...like this one.

they would be wreckless to not have one.

[Just Me]

59. You HAVE to take seriously their views on world domination,...

,...as the remaining "empire". They are prepared to do whatever it takes to fulfill their seriously dysfunctional "vision". I'm telling you, this cabal is really, really SICK and willing to exercise all Machiavellian mechanisms to do what Hitler failed to accomplish.

IOW, take their blind, ideological and profiteering ambition very seriously. They are prepared to spend us all.

[punpirate]

5. When it comes from a source who's more often right than wrong...

... I'll pay attention.

I have my own suspicions, but, I'm reasonably sure it won't go the way Madsen describes. He's been wrong--dead wrong--far too often in the past to be considered credible.

Cheers.

[jbane]

9. does this guy have credibility? Is there an example I would be familiar...

with. I've never heard of him even though I'm a news junkie.

[punpirate]

11. My assessment is that, no...

... he's not credible. As I suggest, he's been wrong too often to be considered as such.

Just Google his name and have a look at his stories in the last year. My guess is that he finds a story of interest in the mainstream press, calls a few people he knows, and embroiders on what little source information he can gather. I doubt that his sources are that much in the know.

Like a number of people writing on the web today (Tom Flocco and others of his ilk), I don't think his understanding of the nature of evidence and the requirements of investigative journalism is that good.

Cheers.

[OKNancy]

61. LOL - I just posted his last Iran prediction

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4307250&mesg_id=4308087

and how can we forget the Plame indictments that were for sure going to come down in July...July of 2004 that is.

[Telly Savalas]

12. He's the head of the American Association for the Abolition of Paragraphs

Come on, some guy on the internet said it so it must be right.

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[Literate Tar Heel]

14. wow, a real-life troll!!!

I'd never seen one in action before ... cool

[Lex]

15. Yeah, 2 whole posts and he's already shown himself.

Not too bright of him is it?

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[Lex]

19. Rationally? How many countries should we invade? What about North Korea?

Are you willing to enlist?

[karlrschneider]

17. Yeah, me too! They're usually t-stoned 'fore I get to read the drivel

:D

[Lex]

18. Are you saying that Iran has Weapons of Mass Destruction?

Because I have a question. Don't you EVER learn?

Oh and another question. Why don't you enlist if you're for the war?

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[Just Me]

24. So, you are for inciting a world war over oil.

Is that your position?

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[Just Me]

29. Whoah,...you are kidding,...I hope.

Any "skirmish" (such an incredibly weak term to be applied to the situation) with Iran would force involvement by other interested countries.

I do hope you comprehend such consequences. I hope.

[BabboonBush]

30. This guy's screen name

tells it all. The RW mantra these days is "quit whining," an affront as if to say, "Stop criticizing my god George W. Bush. He's a fine leader and he can do no wrong." It is actually an insult to this board.

Anyhow, Iraq was NOT for the oil? It wasn't for WMDs, there was none there. Strike 1. It wasn't because Saddam was a bad man, there's many bad men out there today. Strike 2.

You do the math.

[robertpaulsen]

37. Would NOT be over oil? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Speaking of drops at the pump, what flavor Kool-Aid have you been drinking out of the pump?

[Lex]

26. Silly me. Weren't you just giving reasons why attacking Iran

wouldn't be such a bad idea?

Seemed to me like you were. Do you support the war in Iraq?

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[jayfish]

20. Did It Ever Occur To You That They Don't Want To Use Oil? -NT-

Jay

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[jayfish]

48. No They Are Really Into "Nukular" Power Tech.

That was a fine zinger though. :eyes:

Jay

[Literate Tar Heel]

28. this is just a silly list of arguments

"You do know that Iran is developing nuclear power plants to manufacture weapons-grade material, don't you?"

No, I don't know this. I've read statements from the Pentagon that imply such, but I don't consider them a reliable source of factual information anymore.

"All that oil and they need nuclear power plants?"

That's like asking a guy who lives in a wooden house why he wants to cook on an electric stove when he has all that wood around him with which he could make fires to cook over.

"Also, are you aware that Iran's "government" hates us?"

Are there any governments left that don't?? Certainly an unprovoked war against Iran will take of that little problem.

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[Just Me]

34. You DO realize that Cheney's Halliburton helped construct those plants,...

,...don't you? You DO realize WHO is making the BIG BUCKS off the BushCO/neoCON obsession with power over the world,...don't you? You DO realize that the BushCo/neoCON regime have betrayed the American people about EVERYTHING they plan to do because all this regime ever does is EXPLOIT others FOR PROFIT,...don't you? You DO realize that the BushCO/neoCON regime have ENDANGERED our economic and physical security,...don't you?

BAH!!! Go back to your box!!!

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[Just Me]

40. Uh huh. Apparently, you haven't studied this regime much.

Go do some reading on DSM, torture, PNAC, outing of NOC, Cheney "energy policy" (just before Iraq invasion), war profiteering, neocon spy scandal, etc. I love this country MORE than you, apparently, because I OPPOSE BETRAYAL AND DICTATORSHIP! You obviously don't give a shit whether this regime has exploited the American people,...you don't even want to hear the truth. Maybe, it is YOU who should consider going to another country because you obviously don't give a damn about this one.

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[Just Me]

52. Umm,...your intelligent response is "don't get laid much"?

Says a LOT about your mindset.

[robertpaulsen]

49. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! LOVE IT OR LEAVE! BE A REAL MURCAN!

:woohoo::patriot::woohoo::patriot::woohoo::patriot::woohoo::patriot::woohoo:

[Mutley]

55. TS'd at 14 posts.

Trolls have no sense of subtlety these days. :eyes:

[Zenlitened]

63. They could at least think up a different city and state to use...

... in their profiles! Jeez. :dunce:

[Mutley]

66. I guess they think they're accomplishing something with these

kamikaze attacks. One thing they do accomplish: making me laugh my ass off! :rofl: Way to go, Freepers, at least you are comical.

[WoodrowFan]

25. he said this this Spring

and we were supposed to be at war by June at the latest.

[notadmblnd]

32. Must.. stop... Iran

from manipulating the oil market. Guy was just on CNN explaining for the admin that the Iranians are causing the price of oil to increase by cutting back on production.

Is this going to be our "it's a matter of national security" reason for invading Iran? Cause no-one is buying the WMD line.

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[Just Me]

35. Go sacrifice your life to profiteer your regime.

Be sure to send your kids and other relatives.

Meanwhile, leave us alone.

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[Just Me]

45. Do me a favor: DON'T protect this regime's freedom to exploit me,...

,...my family, my community, my country!!! 'Kay? :* If you want to protect my "freedom", protect me against the BushCo/neoCON regime.

[BabboonBush]

47. Defend our freedoms?

How have we done this in Iraq? We've defended our oil resources, for sure. But who attacked us? Who threatened us? It wasn't IRAQ. It was Al Queda, whom the 9/11 Commission said had no credible links to Iraq.

[Catrina]

54. Well, you've got a point there

It surely wasn't for Bush, who went AWOL, or for Cheney, who 'had better things to do' nor was it for Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, Perle, Rush 'Anal Cyst' Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Savage/Weiner, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Joel (I have a family) Goldberg, Condy Rice ~ should I continue? The righty list of those who refused to step up for their country, is a long, long, long one.

[Just Me]

56. Yup. Those members of our regime EXPLOITED their positions,...

,...rather than PROTECTED our freedoms. They make me sick!! :puke:

[notadmblnd]

36. link?

nt

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[notadmblnd]

46. It's your assertion,

could you be a little more specific? I see it nowhere in the Jan- Jul timeline. I don't have time to read the entire site. You said it, prove to me it is true. Otherwise, stop wasting our time.

[BabboonBush]

42. Anything is possible

but who's gonna believe us now? We make these claims when all the claims about Iraq were proven false - plus we have dopeman at the UN now without Congressional approval - what will the world think if we invaded Iran?

Even IF Iran had such things, would the world believe us now? And what troops will we use when our own are already stretched too thin?

Quit your whining, Quit Whining.

[Name removed]

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[Catrina]

50. Did you believe

the AEIA when they told the Bush administration that the Iraq/Niger/ Uranium documents were forgeries? Did you believe Bush when he told you that because of this and, oh yes, the other 12 year-old-old, plagiarized docs, and Condy's Iraq Mushroom cloud scenario, that we needed to go to war in Iraq?

AIRC, the AEIA was pretty much smeared, the way everyone else who calls this administraion on their lies, was. Interesting that a war supporter would now cite them as a reliable source!!! Convenient how 'sources' are considered credible when the seem to be useful for the PNAC neocon agenda.

Oh, and if I were any country that had oil, I would most definitely be developing Nukes!! We can thank Bush for that ~ btw, are you worried at all about Pakistan's Nukes? Oh, wait, they have no oil. But, what if terrorists take over their government? Could happen, couldn't it?

Btw, has Iran been planning to start a war with the US? If you believe so, please supply evidence. I know they probably hate us, every government in the world hates us now, thanks to Bush, so that doesn't count.

[Hubert Flottz]

44. Can the fall of Iraq Appease a Mad Dog Dictator?!

Why Chamberlain Appeased Hitler –

http://www.johndclare.net/RoadtoWWII_19_Reasons_for_appeasement.htm

[OKNancy]

57. Don't believe anything Madsen writes.

His predictions have a pretty bad track record.

Oh, and he said the same thing before the election only with a different spin. He was wrong then too.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD410A.html

According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at Bushehr on the Persian Gulf, and key nuclear targets throughout the country, including the main underground research site at Natanz in central Iran and another in Isfahan. Targets of the planned U.S. attack reportedly include mosques in Tehran, Qom, and Isfahan known by the U.S. to headquarter Iran's top mullahs.

The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry. Reports of a pre-emptive strike on Iran come amid concerns by a number of political observers that the Bush administration would concoct an "October Surprise" to influence the outcome of the presidential election..

According to White House sources, the USS John F. Kennedy was deployed to the Arabian Sea to coordinate the attack on Iran. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld discussed the Kennedy's role in the planned attack on Iran when he visited the ship in the Arabian Sea on October 9. Rumsfeld and defense ministers of U.S. coalition partners, including those of Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Iraq, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Poland, Qatar, Romania, and Ukraine briefly discussed a very "top level" view of potential dual-track military operations in Iran and Iraq in a special "war room" set up on board the aircraft carrier. America's primary ally in Iraq, the United Kingdom, did not attend the planning session because it reportedly disagrees with a military strike on Iran. London also suspects the U.S. wants to move British troops from Basra in southern Iraq to the Baghdad area to help put down an expected surge in Sh'ia violence in Sadr City and other Sh'ia areas in central Iraq when the U.S. attacks Iran as well as clear the way for a U.S. military strike across the Iraqi-Iranian border aimed at securing the huge Iranian oil installations in Abadan. U.S. allies South Korea, Australia, Kuwait, Jordan, Italy, Netherlands, and Japan were also left out of the USS John F. Kennedy planning discussions because of their reported opposition to any strike on Iran.

[Dark]

58. At least they're planning it this time. . .

seriously, people have been saying that we're going to invade Iran, and we're going to have a draft, and there's going to be marshall law, etc.

It's not going to happen. Bush just wants to get money for his rich friends without pissing off the American people enough to incarcerate his ass. That's it.

[Just Me]

64. What's to "plan" in imposing CHAOS?

They believe destabilization and destruction is a good thing. They are only planning to impose chaos on everyone,...no plan for success or the aftermath.

The only thing they REALLY plan for is PROFITEERING.

[BabboonBush]

60. Okay, ABC News

reported something about Iran tonight on World News Tonight. I admit, it DID in fact sound like the beginning of the drumbeat to war. It was eerily similiar to Iraq's beginnings. It started off saying, "the U.S. has intelligence that Iran..." then mentioned something about the ability to make nukes.

Now, the question remains. Will the world believe us after Bush clearly lied to Congress and the American people regarding Iraq's non-existent WMDs? Will they accept another American-led invasion of another Middle East Muslim nation? And how will that look when we do invade Iran?

[Just Me]

62. They are being consistent,...the propaganda will escalate through,...

,...Christmas.

By the way, the WORLD didn't believe us in the lead-up to the Iraq war,...historical global protests took place in the three months prior to the BushCO/neoCON war on Iraq.

[Mr_Spock]

65. Everybody knows they are planning this.

It's the ultimate distraction.