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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:27 PM
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Removed from Duty
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 04:27 PM by ls317
In a rare move, the Army relieved a four-star general of his command amid allegations that he had an extramarital affair with a civilian, Army officials said yesterday.

Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes, 55, led the Army's Training and Doctrine Command at Fort Monroe, Va., where he supervised the recruitment and academic programs at 33 Army schools, from basic training to the war colleges. Byrnes, who several military sources said had a previously unblemished record, was set to retire in November after 36 years of service.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/09/AR2005080900515.html
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:28 PM
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1. Dumbass
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:29 PM
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2. So much for that retirement money egh?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:31 PM
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3. He'll stil be able to retire, honorably.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:36 PM
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6. He'll get his full retirement.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:43 PM
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9. ah then what the hell retire early! Life is more than military ops.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:33 PM
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4. does anyone else think there's more to this story?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:36 PM
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7. I think he was a gay
four star general.. :rofl:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:39 PM
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8. Possibly...
I knew a colonel in Colorado who was forced to retire because of an affair with a first lieutenant. Having an affair with an officer below you in your chain of command, though, is normally considered much more serious than an affair with a civilian. Did the civilian work directly for him?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:33 PM
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5. Good thing Ike didn't have to worry about the dick police!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:42 PM
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12. Ike fooled around?
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:30 PM
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13. The way I heard it
he had a long time dalliance with his attache (IIRC, Kay Summersby was her name), but was unable to "rise to the occasion."
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:24 PM
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19. Ah *l*
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:57 PM
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10. perhaps he disagreed with the *bots. . .
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What has not been reported is that recently, one of Byrnes' subordinate commands, Fort Rucker in Alabama, had been told to stand by for an influx of 50,000 military trainees -- a level the base has not seen since the Vietnam War. Byrnes' relief of command came on the heels of the Pentagon announcing that might permit Spanish-language entrance examinations. Byrnes, who was in charge of Army training, would not only face recruits with lower education levels, criminal records, but a lack of proficiency in English. Pentagon insiders report that it was Byrnes' policy disagreements with the Pentagon neo-cons over the new recruitment policies and the potential for calling up Army retirees and reinstating military conscription without adequate TRADOC funding that resulted in his firing. The personal misconduct charges were concocted by the Pentagon to cover up the fact that there are serious disagreements with Bush and Rumsfeld among the flag officer ranks in the military.
<snip>

Link to story:
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 05:42 PM
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11. sounds plausible, but needs indep. confirmation given the source
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:38 PM
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14. The ONLY "misconduct" to the Bushies is disloyatly/disagreement
so this story sounds 1000% plausible. Thanks.
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Doo_Revolution Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:41 PM
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15. Staged coup. The only disconduct here was disagreeing with traitors....
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--armygeneralreliev0809aug09,0,2729727.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

He disagreed with the Israeli neocons of AIPAC/PNAC. It isn't difficult, there is no room for opposition in the backwards fantasy island that they inhabit.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:48 PM
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16. This story sounds like BS
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 07:05 PM by Lecky
I'm sure he had an affair, but I doubt that's why he really was removed from duty.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:53 PM
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17. Prison PLanet's story about this..
The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:57 PM
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18. Byrnes was about to lead a coup against the hawks
Four Star Army General Fired For Alleged Sexual Misconduct; Some Say He May Have Been Ousted For Attempting To Thwart The Bush Administration Plans To Strike Iran
General Kevin P. Byrnes was relieved of his duties Tuesday, only the third four star officer to be fired in more than 15 years. Observers speculated there are much deeper reasons behind the firing of the high-ranking officer said to be against the administration's escalating war policies.
August 10, 2005

By Greg Szymanski

Sabers are rattling deep within the highest-levels of the U.S. military as for the first time in more than a decade a four star officer was relieved of his duties, Army officials announced Tuesday.

Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes was relieved for personal conduct reasons as the Pentagon Inspector General’s Office has been investigating possible sexual misconduct by Byres for several months.

“The investigation is complete but it is yet to be determined if the general will be only demoted or charged criminally,” said a Pentagon spokesman about relieving Byrnes of his duties as commander of the prestigious Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC).

To understand the magnitude of the firing and its unusual nature, Byrnes, 55, was only months away from full retirement and though high-ranking officers are commonly relieved of their duties rarely – if ever – is such a drastic measure taken against a four star general.

Although the military and Pentagon officials, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, are remaining silent about the details, speculation among some military observers is that the firing of Gen. Byrnes goes much deeper than only personal sexual misconduct.

Sources close to the military who remain anonymous said Byrnes was part of U.S. military faction discontented with the Bush administration war policies in Iraq and the potential for a nuclear disaster in Iran.

In an effort to stop the Bush administration in its tracks, sources say Byrnes was about to lead a coup against the hawks in the military and executive branch determined to lead America into a global conflict, leading to devastating ramifications for the country, as well as financial and social chaos.

Con't-
http://www.arcticbeacon.com./
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