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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:17 PM
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Cong. Weldon's Preemptive Strike Against the CIA
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 01:01 PM by leveymg
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/11/131635/786
Thu Aug 11th, 2005

Republican Cong. Weldon's disclosure that U.S. Army intelligence watched four al-Qaeda hijackers inside the US 18 months before 9/11 is a preemptive move by the GOP to dilute shocking information in a report that is expected to be released in coming weeks by the CIA's Inspector General's office.

Weldon's widely-publicized campaign of disinformation has spun the story so that blame is laid at the feet of the Clinton Administration for the failure of U.S. intelligence to notify the FBI about the presence inside the U.S. of four know terrorists CIA had observed entering the country in late 1999 and early 2000.

The CIA IG report is reportedly complete, and is currently being reviewed by former DCI George Tenet and other Agency officials who are the subject of highly damaging accusations that the CIA withheld information and mislead U.S. law enforcement about the presence, identities and activities of the al-Qaeda cell members known to be organizing attacks within the U.S.

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Cong. Weldon's remarks have fueled controversy over responsibility for the failure by US government agencies to prevent the 9/11 attacks.

Weldon first spoke publicly about the issue on 27 June in a little-noticed speech on the house floor, and to a local paper in his Pennsylvania constituency.

According to a front-page New York Times report published on August 10, a US Army intelligence unit prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to Special Operations Command that the FBI be informed. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/politics/11intel.html; also, see, How Bin Laden and Mohamed Atta Escaped Gen. Franks
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/10/145513/501

Weldon claims that course of action was rejected in large part because the four al-Qaeda operatives were in the US on valid entry visas. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4135400.stm

He claims Pentagon lawyers rejected the recommendation because they said Atta and the others were in the country legally.

That claim is simply inconsistent with the law as it existed at the time. That was not and is not gov't policy. For one thing, the Pentagon's lawyers who Weldon claims made the decision to withhold information from FBI knew full well that the four suspects were not "U.S. persons" (citizens or lawful permanent residents, aka "green card" holders.)

The matrix the Able Danger unit had compiled was based on data from entry records provided by INS, which clearly showed the four al-Qaeda operatives had all entered the U.S. as non-immigrants with visas.

Warrant requirements under the Foreign Intelligence Survellance Act (FISA) and information-sharing restrictions simply did not apply to the 9/11 hijackers. This is basic national security and immigration law. Anyone who's familiar with FISA warrant and information sharing guidelines in place at that time knows Weldon's version is a most implausible cover story.

In fact, CIA, DOD and other intelligence agencies could do all the electronic monitoring they wanted on the al-Qaeda suspects, AND SHARE IT WITH THE FBI, because the subjects of wiretaps were all known to be non-resident aliens, exempt from FISA warrant requirements.

Certainly, DoD lawyers didn't get that one wrong. Not for the reason being offered by Welson and other GOP operatives.

Weldon's account does not explain why Post-It stickies might be applied to photos of Atta before the matrix could be shown outside the DoD. The story being spread by Weldon and the GOP is a flimsy, almost laughable CYA cover now being resurrected to blame Clinton.

WHAT WELDON ISN'T TELLING YOU

It is time that the public learns why things got complicated, and stickies might have been applied. In 2000, the surveillance of the incoming al-Qaeda cells was just part of an enormous ongoing multi-agency monitoring operation of international terrorism, WMD proliferation, arms and drug dealing, political influence peddling, and money laundering. The Army's Able Danger Intelligence unit apparently had indiscriminate access to a lot of this data, which also included data gained from warrantless NSA taps of the communications of US persons and non-US persons, alike.

Intelligence analysts are supposed to separate this out, and obtain FISA warrants where US persons are involved to authorize continuation of these intercepts. But, the agencies by and large didn't bother to seek warrants -- which is a violation of the law. That made this data the fruit of illegal searches, and the FBI didn't want to touch it, for fear that it would ruin its criminal investigations that overlapped the CIA and DIA's domestic operations.

Meanwhile, over at the J. Edgar Hoover Building, FBI national security managers were attempting to cover a maelstrom of terrorist groups, Saudi financiers, Israeli espionage, corrupt politicians, and corruption within the US intelligence agencies. This is what Sibel Edmonds has tried so hard to blow the whistle about. This job was immensely complicated by the fact that the al-Qaeda ranks were riddled with double-agents serving multiple intelligence agencies, all of which were spying on each other. The whole thing got too hot, and the bureaucracy overloaded. Bad decisions were made by FBI managers to allow the Planes Operation to continue for fear of stepping on the toes of the CIA and foreign agencies working both with and against it inside the US.

After the 2000 election, national security managers put the brakes on investigative lines that were touching on subjects that might get people fired. For its own reasons, the Bush Administration shut down much of the remaining counter-terrorism apparatus. By early 2001, it was widely known within law enforcement and intelligence circles that some strange things were going on at the FISA court, and within FBI counter-terrorism. The number of FISA warrant requests actually declined during the 18 months leading up to the 9/11 attacks, and few were filed during the summer before the attacks. Recall, this is at a time that Tenet's hair was said to be "on fire". For more on the chaos of US counterterrorism in 2001, please see: THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4):
Bush White House, CIA, FBI Bungled Risky Warrantless Surveillance Operation - 3,000 Died, http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm

9/11 could have been avoided. The al-Qaeda cells could have been rolled up if the order had been given by President Bush. Without that order, nobody was going to be arrested.

Finally, everyone knew there was a serious problem and nobody wanted to create more of paper trail than they had to. Warrants create paper trails, which get people fired, subpoenaed, and indicted. As a result, given the chance, people stopped requesting warrants. Had the agencies had complied with the law regarding FISA warrants, Mohamed Atta and his buddies would have had to be arrested, given what was being learned from illegal wiretaps and consensual monitoring. This is an area, not surprisingly, the 9/11 Commission didn't even begin to touch on.

The CIA Inspector General's Report does not exhonerate Tenet and other Agency officials for withholding information from the FBI on the basis that Cong. Weldon claims. The law clearly allowed CIA, DoD and FBI to share information about Mohamed Atta and the Al-Qaeda suspects who would carry out the hijackings. They did. The so-called FISA Wall did not cause the failure of US counterterrorism that led to their "catastrophic success" on 9/11.

Weldon's accusations are a what's known as a "limited hangout" in intelligence jargon. It is an attempt to poison the well of public discourse for the far more damaging revelations about Bush Administration incompetence and obstruction of U.S. counter-terrorism that are about to be made public by the Inspector General.

Instead, the CIA report will detail a much more complex picture of bad decisions by Agency policymakers who tried to comply with Bush White House orders that interfered with management of a mounting crisis.

COPYRIGHT 2005, Mark G. Levey



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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:20 PM
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1. Thanks, Mark. here's a kick so it doesn't get lost. Cindy is vastly
important, but we need to keep the fire hot on our other burners as well.
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:22 PM
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2. Taken as
an isolated event, it might succeed as a "limited hangout".
Combine it with the other facts the American people have absorbed, and it will end up bolstering the notion that the Administration allowed 911 to happen.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:34 PM
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3. Thank you for this very informative post. Clears up the mystery
about Weldon's role and motives. Excellent work.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:02 PM
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4. wow -- kick and agree with the post about this
potenially getting lost during our cindy-watch. good stuff.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:09 PM
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5. Thanks for clarification. I would like to see Richard Clarke's
take on this. Not because I think he is all knowing and all seeing but because he can actually explain this somewhat complicated affair to a television audience, and take the partisan bs out of it. For that reason, he probably won't be interviewed.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:21 PM
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6. Kick!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:29 PM
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7. Indira Singh, corroborating Sibel's story
"I have spoken with Sibel because what I have uncovered in Ptech connects with some of the things that she has discovered. Sibel is not allowed to disclose content but she can ask me questions. I know some of the things that she mentioned there connect directly to what I discovered."
-- Indira Singh, after reading Sibel Edmond's letter to Thomas Kean, giving testimony before the 9-11 Citizens' Commission headed by Cynthia McKinney


"...there are walls within the FBI, walls within the CIA, behind which these operations take place..."

"We have agent Robert Wright of the Chicago FBI, who’s giving congressional testimony, and, umm, he stands on the steps of the Capitol, bursts into tears, apologizes to the 9-11 families, the victims, that he didn’t do everything he could to prevent 9-11 from happening, that his investigations were repeatedly shut down. And I almost fell over, because he announced that his investigation was the investigation into Yassan Khadi, the same Sheikh Yassan Khadi who was the money man behind Ptech. And, umm, you could not ask for a more direct connection to 9-11 than that."

...

"In fact, and this has to be made very clear, there are some extraordinarily real patriotic Americans and good people in the FBI, as has been said by, I believe, Agent Colleen Rowley, one of the FBI whistleblowers’ bosses, that there’s a wall in the FBI, and this has been validated to me by various attorneys in Houston, who are very close to the power bases, and are pretty ticked-off at what’s happening in this country and are speaking out, as are many CIA agents who are very concerned that it has gone too far, as are many NSA agents who are concerned that it’s gone too far, and FBI agents. So we have a lot of people who are speaking out, they’ve kept quiet too long; they’re afraid, they’re afraid of what’s happening to this country. And when I say the Third Reich, what is happening to this country, they say, and I will identify ‘they’ if pressed, they say, will make the Third Reich look like a tea party."

...

"...assigned me a Secret Service agent to investigate the FBI’s bungling into Ptech and what was really going on. Charlie Bopp hung out with me for, until the anniversary last year when I told him I had stumbled onto the drugs and that they were giving a free pass to all those affiliated with terror financing for 9/11. And, that my promise to him to go away until they could clean up the mess was no longer on the table. We had a very, very in depth exchange where he basically broke down and admitted a lot of things to me which I probably need to tell Cynthia in private."
But he corroborated, he said it’s all corrupt, it’s all corrupt, yes. When I challenged him on the 28 redacted pages {presumably re the official 9-11 Report} he said, "You’re right, you’ve got it right."
So . . ."

-- Indira Singh


Ptech is a long, complicated and hair-raising story in its own right, detailing parts of the connections between the US and terror financing. That's where Indira runs into these walls withing the FBI and the CIA.

see the "Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:41 PM
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8. kick n/t
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DFWdem Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:02 PM
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9. Not entirely true
A secret US military intelligence team identified the September 11 hijack leader Mohammed Atta and three of his accomplices as probable al-Qa'eda terrorists a year before the attacks.

But its suspicions were never shared with the FBI because the military was nervous about breaking restrictions on spying on US territory imposed after the Watergate scandal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/10/watta10.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/08/10/ixworld.html


They aren't blaming Clinton, they're blaming the restrictions imposed after Watergate.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 02:53 AM
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10. That's the official "damage control" story,
it is not corroborated by testimony of various whistle blowers.

Also there is much more involved besides knowing about Mohammed Atta and accomplices. Certain FBI agents were on the trail of financial connections between Saudi run, US based corporations and terrorism. Others within the FBI shut down investigations regarding those connections.

The UK Telegraph article does not even mention financing, nor does it address any of this:


"We have agent Robert Wright of the Chicago FBI, who’s giving congressional testimony, and, umm, he stands on the steps of the Capitol, bursts into tears, apologizes to the 9-11 families, the victims, that he didn’t do everything he could to prevent 9-11 from happening, that his investigations were repeatedly shut down. And I almost fell over, because he announced that his investigation was the investigation into Yassan Khadi, the same Sheikh Yassan Khadi who was the money man behind Ptech. And, umm, you could not ask for a more direct connection to 9-11 than that."
-- Indira Singh



"...And then you involve a significant amount of money into this equation. Then things start getting a lot of overlap - money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it's getting into somebody's political campaign, and somebody's lobbying. And people don't want to be traced back to this money."

"...once this issue gets to be investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally."

"There is direct evidence involving no more then ten American names that I recognized, some are heads of government agencies or politicians - but I don’t want to go any further than that."
-- Sibel Edmonds


see the "Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:36 AM
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11. If that's the case...
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:36 AM by StrafingMoose
then we are dealing with people who have _exploited_ these restrictions.
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