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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:04 PM
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It's the Gas that's gonna do it.
My father, a moderate(i.e. almost very conservative) Dem, who has been known to vote Republican in the past, went on a 10 minute rant about the price of gasoline and Bush's new Bill. My father, who hardly ever swears, laced this rant with several well chosen expletives...My father is basically sick of seeing gas stations with signs that appear to be spinning on an hourly basis...

...My father, who thought I was nuts to go to Washington D.C. in Sept had this to say to me this morning...."Give 'em Hell, darlin!"

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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:06 PM
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1. Acrually; I agree and disagree:
The gas will do it for the men/fathers.
The grieving mother will do it for the women.
NOT to be callous; please don't anyone take me that way.
Double threat--with only themselves to blame........
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:07 PM
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3. I think you're right -- Cindy at the same time as $3/gallon gas ...
It's gonna hit them coming and going.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:16 PM
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16. I agree and disagree.
More people on both sides of the sexes fence feel more about their own pocket books than the suffering of another, and it makes me sick. It actually made me sick that my father, a really nice guy, heretofore thought we "shouldn't get involved".
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:18 PM
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17. That's true.
Sad fact.
Hit 'em where it hurts..........
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:06 PM
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2. Well, it IS important.
It's an economic issue, a national security issue, and yet another problem that we can't expect Bush to do a damn thing about.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:08 PM
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4. We don't have to give em hell
just tell the truth and they'll think it's hell. (Thank's to Harry Truman)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM
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6. All Hell is going to be in September is thousands of people who
disagree with Mr Bush visiting him.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:08 PM
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5. Just filled up @ $2.38/gallon for reg...cashier said will be $2.45 tonite
People are getting ticked.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM
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7. You're probably right.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM by Blue State Native
It's too bad that is what it will finally take to wake people up. This all could have been avoided. All of it! Is it any wonder bu$hco** lowered the price of gas prior to the "election"? Manipulative little worm! Oh and Give 'em Hell in DC!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM
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8. Anybody who voted for an oil president thinking it would mean
cheap gas, have to be feeling very stupid right now..
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM
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9. Give 'em lots n LOTS of HELL kiddo! *hugs*
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:09 PM
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10. yes
especially to Republicans. Tell them innocent people are dying and they yawn. Tell them that they are going to lose a couple bucks and its the fucking apocalypse.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:10 PM
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11. Last time I filledup, the guy on other side of the pump was cussing.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:10 PM
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12. It's great to hear your dad supports your efforts now
:hug: :cry: :hug:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:11 PM
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13. Told a group of Repugs I worked with in Oct if they voted for Bush
Gas would be 2.50 a gallon in six months if he won... Well I am not far off.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:15 PM
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14. Really! I too actually hear people men/women cursing out at the pumps
wait till it goes beyond $3.00 per gallon - they're taking your freedom away from you, now you have to calculate how many tanks per week your going to need!

Plus its sure to effect the economy truckers passing the tab on to consumers etc..
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:16 PM
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15. During the Fall of Saigon in the book by David Butler
and also in the book by Frank Snepp, Decent Interval, the price of gasoline in the US was so high that Pentagon generals were more concerned about getting gas money to drive to work than listening to US Ambassador Graham A. Martin's pleas for $500 million more to prop up the So Vietnamese regime.

Looks like something similar may end up taking place here with even Sen McCain saying we could be stuck in Iraq for "ten, twenty years...that's not so bad"

http://spectrumz.com/z/fair_use/2004/09_04.html

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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:23 PM
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18. Well then, stop it, people!
Stop using so much fucking gas!!!

I hear people complaining about the price of gas, but they still fucking get into the fucking SUV to go buy a fucking Coke and a pack of smokes. WTF???

I have no goddamn sympathy for any idiot who complains about it, but won't do anything to stop enabling these slimy Oilco thieves. You line their pockets with cash money everytime you turn on the fucking internal combustion engine.

DON'T GET IN THE GODDAMN TRUCK UNLESS YOU HAVE TO!!!

(Give 'em Hell, darlin! ;-)
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:32 PM
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20. actually we are fortunate enough to have the money to buy a prius
in addition we are fit enough to bike to work if it is needed, meanwhile we carpool. BUT that said there are places without adequate public transportation, and people who are not lucky enough to have a fuel efficient car (and here I am thinking about the young, the elderly on fixed income, and the poor imigrants) and for those people this issue IS a crisis. Really through no fault of their own they are barely making ends meet, and now will be squeezed even harder.

So while I laugh at the SUV's and Hummer's whenever I fill the tank, I really feel for the poorer folks.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:26 PM
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19. you may be right
i spar with a DINO on another board who constantly supports * and his policies although he says he's a dem. he's now on a rant about gas prices, but doesn't care about iraq, etc.

$$$$$$ is what's going to change amurikkans minds, when it hits their pocketbooks, THEN they squeal!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:32 PM
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21. Well, if it does, I'll be happy and disgusted at the same time.
Happy that people have woken up, disgusted that it's selfishness, greed, shortsightedness, and anger over something they're too ignorant to realise actually isn't attributable to Bush's fuckups that caused it to happen.

The idea that Americans have some sort of god-given right to cheap gasoline is absurd...but of course people will go on thinking so, even though it's cheaper here than in most of the world, even at $2.50-$3/gal., and we use one-fourth of it, despite only having one-twentieth of the people on the planet.

It's equally absurd to think that you can blame something that's entirely the result of market fluctuations of the cost of a limited commodity with increasing demand and flattening or even declining supply on the actions or inactions of the president, however bad he may be...and don't get me wrong, Bush is probably the worst we've ever had, but nice as it it to see him take the hit, there's nothing he could do about this short of going totally fucking insane and threatening to nuke every oil-producing nation on the planet unless they give us oil at $28 a barrel...which doesn't seem like a course of action anyone sane could really get behind.

Maybe if people who are pissed off about gas prices started carpooling? Collected hundreds of thousands or millions of signatures in support of ballot initiatives for mass transit projects? Lobbied Congress for serious R&D money for alternative energy sources? No. People are too self-centred to do any of those things; instead, they'll whine about how much having to pay $2-3 less per gallon of gas than citizens of ANY OTHER industrialised nation hurts them.

This is why America and Americans more often than not make me sick.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 05:33 PM
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22. It's a powerful issue...
Especially if the prices are this high just before the next election. The Dems should put these high prices right on the backs of the Republicans.
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