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Thu Aug-11-05 06:51 PM
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"Leaving Iraq now would send the wrong message." To whom? |
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Iraqi people who already hate our guts, Al-qaeda who is at war with the "infidels?" Or does he mean to his RW-neocon-puppeteers who put him office to take over Iraq?
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Thu Aug-11-05 06:52 PM
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1. Yeah.. that second one.. |
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Thu Aug-11-05 06:55 PM
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The Gods of War. The Chimperor is in communication with them - sending and receiving messages while in a semi-comatose state. Fortunately, Smirkus Disgustus is able to maintain a semi-comatose state for prolonged periods. (Except when he's asleep, actually. Or out cold.)
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Thu Aug-11-05 06:57 PM
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4. At least change what you're |
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doing over their do something different instead of sending our men and women out to be targets.There has to be some strategy other then send troops out to draw fire and then chase.Didn't work in nam why would it work now?
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:03 PM
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5. Oh, fer cryin' out loud! |
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Everyone from OBL to the Iraqi people have said It's time to go now.
Get rid of military bases on their land in the ME, stop stealing their resources, stop supporting despotic regimes.
Why the *F* would they bother us after they got what they wanted, which is to be left the *F* alone.
Is it that simple? Yes, I think it is.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:04 PM
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6. What's the right message? |
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We will make up lies to invade you so watch it?
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:04 PM
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7. Ah, it's just warmed over cold war shit, it's the only thing they know |
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Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:04 PM by The_Casual_Observer
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:04 PM
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:05 PM
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and his adoring bushbots.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:06 PM
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10. Certainly not to Osama bin Laden. With all our attentions in Iraq |
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he's free to recruit more people who COULD actually harm the US. :grr:
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:06 PM
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Such as the folks Powell is now working with, regarding investing in the NWO and its amazing new opportunities.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:06 PM
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12. The American people WE ARE the enemy |
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:40 PM
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19. exactly, it would tell us that they were wrong |
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and they're NEVER wrong... that's their thing
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:09 PM
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13. Will I live to see another helicopter leaving from the roof of |
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another building in ten years? I hope not.
I pray we have learned from the past....!!
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:16 PM
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14. Halliburton Chevron Texaco Carlyle Group |
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In April of 2004 the first two oil tankers that went out of Iraq went to Texaco & Chevron.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:17 PM
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He lives in his own little world. He has no clue what the average American thinks thus he has no real clue as the message the war is sending.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:20 PM
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16. This is a ludicrous discussion, |
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Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:34 PM by Perky
Loook I am not defending the invasion it was incredbily shortsighted and stupid to think that it would be a cake walk and it certainly was nsive to think we would be treated as liberators... Worst of all it is both arrogant and extreemly naive to think that imposing a republican form of government in the middle east even with modest democratic gains would ever I mean ever be viable.
Having said that. WE HAVE TO STAY. I wish there was another course but I do not see it. It has nothing to do with saving face or oil
but this country teeters on the brink of civl war because there is no strongman government and that is ur fault. To pick up and depart would mean Iraq would turn into an old afghanistan and Baghdad into a much larger Beirut. THis is why Bush I decided not to invade.
Its not about sending the wrong message.... It it about the inevitability of this beecoming an improverished state with the Kurds creating an autonomous government in the north, el-Histani taking his cues from Teheran and Hezbollah finding fertile ground to exploit for terror training camps in the western desert with Syria's blessing. Its about Alqueda becoming entrenched in the Baghdad slums as a political forst with private armies.
This Fiasco is the worst stratgic move in US Government history. This is Bush's folly. This is nothing short of a Debabcle and a quagmire.
Oh if only idiocy was an impeachable offense.
I just do not see how we can leave because it gives the country over to warloads and thugs, Sealots and nationalists.
FOr GOd's sake did they not realize when dreaming up this lunacy that when it came to writing a constituton that the Wahabiists and the conservatives would demand that the rights of women be curtailed to conform to Islamic law?
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:29 PM
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the only reason we are any where near Iraq is because of the oil in the middle-east. Money rules. Nobody in power gives a rats ass about any peoples of any country, including our own. You want to die for the haves to have more...go for it, but human lives other than your own you shouldn't be bargaining with.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:38 PM
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pretty much entirely
Regradless of the reasons we went inot Iraq. It would be far worse if left. THast is not offered as a defense of the invasion. I am simply sayoing that to leavenow...because of what we have done would be even worse.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:55 PM
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20. Missed the point?.... |
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I do not believe that there could be more death and destruction there than exists today. And, that our presence does nothing at all to remedy that, it only exacerbates it.
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Thu Aug-11-05 07:58 PM
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21. If Bagdhad becomes another Beirut... |
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You will hear of 500 deaths aday rather then 20.
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Thu Aug-11-05 08:07 PM
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