"Is My Child Becoming Homosexual?" . . .

[OneBlueSky]

from our good friends at Focus on the Family . . . "Helping boys become men, and girls become women" . . . :puke:

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000684.html

Evidences of gender confusion or doubt in boys ages 5 to 11 may include:

1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys.

2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.

3. A persistent preference to play female roles in make-believe play.

4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes.

5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”

6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.

7. A repeatedly stated desire to be — or insistence that he is — a girl.

If your child is experiencing several signs of gender confusion, professional help is available. It’s best to seek that help before your child reaches puberty.

- more . . . unfortunately . . .

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000684.html

[Dogmudgeon]

1. And yet, I turned out Hetero

It's strange how real live human beings often turn out exactly the way they are.

--p!

[mode13h_net]

23. I was a bit of a young nancy as well...

I was a little sissy boy who cried alot, had to go through "adapted physical education" and hung out with the little girl who lived next door. My physical body eventually caught up with my age and I ended up playing high school football, 15+ years of martial arts, and overall in good health - both mentally and physically. Unlike this stupid site suggested - I ended up heterosexual. Because I was born heterosexual. Just as others are born homosexual. That is the key here. As a bonus, having an awkward childhood has made me very open to other people's differences and probaly makes me a better father as my child isn't exactly a star athlete. Focus on the family is 100% bullshit.

[Biased Liberal Media]

2. Oh my god...

This has to be some sort of sick joke...isn't it??

[Not_Giving_Up]

3. This was posted yesterday

Take a shower with your son and show him your penis so he'll know what it is to be a man. :crazy:

[FreedomAngel82]

5. It's disgusting

When my brother was little he played with my Rainbow Brite doll and he turned out fine. :eyes: My cousin was a BIG-TIME tomboy. She wore boy clothes and played sports and hung out with guys (and girls of course) and now she's married to a guy she dated all throughout high school. :eyes:

[Not_Giving_Up]

7. My son played with his sister's dolls

He's eleven now, and showing signs of interest in girls. If he turns out gay, that's fine with me. If he doesn't, that's fine too.

[jayctravis]

11. My god, the vile things I used to do my cousin's Barbies.....

I can barely stand to think effeminately about them.

[gauguin57]

38. I used to paint my Barbies' limbs with red paint ...

... and pretend they'd been in a car accident.

And yet, I didn't turn out to be a psychopath or a serial killer. Go figure.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

15. Eleven is a bit early to tell

As I remember sixth grade, most boys that age are hostile or indifferent to girls and vice versa.

[Not_Giving_Up]

16. True, like I said, either way, I'm fine with it

He was caught looking up a girl's shorts when she was on the monkey bars about a year ago.

[rodeodance]

25. we promise not to let Dobson know.

jesting you know.

[LibDemAlways]

17. Mike Malloy pointed out last night that

if a kid told his teacher that his dad took him in the shower and showed him his penis, the teacher would probably notify authorities and the father would be arrested.

Great advice, Dr. Dumbass.

[Not_Giving_Up]

21. Bingo!

When Dad is in court explaining to the judge that he only showed his son his penis to make him more manly, where will Dobson be?

[Maple]

4. Or perhaps your child

just has brains?

[tuvor]

6. 12 Reasons Same-Sex Marriage Will Ruin Society

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.

10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.

www.12reasons.com

[Biased Liberal Media]

12. Ugh. It's shit like this that keeps my mom in the closet

brainwashed by her fucking church.

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Disgusting

Ugh. And eye glasses are natural? I didn't know I had eye glasses on when I was born.

[Biased Liberal Media]

14. Wait a second, I'm confused- are they defending Britney Spear's

55 hour marriage??

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.


Talk about deluded...

[mark11727]

19. Hold on. It's a GOOF. Read the LINK...

Gator Gay-Straight Alliance. Fighting homophobia through activism.

[mode13h_net]

24. I think this list is supposed to be ironic

But when some groups publish 'serious' publications that are as asinine as this, it's hard to tell sometimes.

[kansasblue]

35. excellent Tuvor!

[BohemianJordy]

8. haha five of the seven apply to me...

Nope, not gay...

And where's the part about liking nail polish and make up?

[jayctravis]

9. You gotta stop that effeminate thinking!

1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys.
(because you know everyone is exactly "the same")
2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
(yeah, that's wussy to experience emotion and not want to wrestle with other boys)
3. A persistent preference to play female roles in make-believe play.
(this one I don't disagree with, but there's nothing wrong with it)
4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes.
(right, because girls are icky)
5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”
(yeah, it's your fault if you're verbally abused by the straight lads)
6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.
(don't let other people catch you thinking effeminately!)
7. A repeatedly stated desire to be — or insistence that he is — a girl.
(no disagreement)

So in short, boys should want to wrestle with other boys, avoid girls at all cost, feel bad if they are called names because it's their fault, and avoid crossdressing.

[wiley]

10. Wonder why teen suicide rates are so high?

I don't.

This is really, really sick.

:thumbsdown:

[Behind the Aegis]

18. Here's what I said in another post...

Evidences of gender confusion or doubt in boys ages 5 to 11 may include:

1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys. Check! I always knew I was different.

2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy. I have always been sensitive. I cry when I watch 'Animal Planet' and the animal dies at the end of the show! I was always athletic, just not a 'sports nut.' And roughhousing with other boys....fucking LOVED that! MMMMM!

3. A persistent preference to play female roles in make-believe play. Check...if I was playing Wonder Woman or Kelly Garrett from Charlie's Angels as I have a thing for 'strong, beautiful' women.

4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes. I liked girls...they brought around CUTE boys! I am no dummy!

5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”
It's my fault other boys' were assholes? Talk about blaming the victim!

6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately. How does one 'think' effeminately? Does this mean we don't think about beating the shit out of/blowing up things 24/7? Talk effeminately? "Hey sailor, come up and see me sometime." or what?!

7. A repeatedly stated desire to be — or insistence that he is — a girl. Well, there was that time in the car that I stood up and started singing,at the top of my lungs, "I am Woman" by Helen Ready...does that count?

As for seeing my dad naked.....EWWWWWWW. Now, there was this one neighbor I wouldn't have minded seeing....but that is for another site! :evilgrin:

[gratuitous]

20. But what if "professional help" doesn't work?

Beat the crap out of the burgeoning little fag? Kill him?

This is just plain sick. Fortunately, these stonebrains are on their way out. Too bad they'll mess up so many poor, impressionable kids who just want to please their parents who are too fucked up themselves.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Dobson wants to shower with your very young sons

... to show 'em who's got the bigger penis. :puke:

[titoresque]

26. coming out of the closet

:) yeah, I was very girlie, still am. hated sports, hated pants, liked makeup. I'm a girl. Been with my wife now for 9 years.....

Focus on the Family IS bullshit! BTW, my wife....total tomboy.
I think the real concern should be that our children are happy. Do they say anything about being happy?!!

[mode13h_net]

30. Dobson's not - why should your children be?

He wants them to experience the same self-inflicted sexually repressive torture that he's had to deal with his whole life.

[mode13h_net]

28. I notice these groups really could give a flying fuck about lesbians.

I'd like to be able to cross reference mainstream adult video sales with "girl on girl" action with the membership lists of some of these groups.
These men have got some real sexual frustration if all they can demonize are homosexual males. They tend to get vastly more upset about gay men than lesbian women - and its really dispropotionate. ..and quite suspicious.

[Swamp Rat]

32. Because they are repressed gay men?

I think so. Too bad.

If they would just come out and be done with it. :eyes:

[titoresque]

33. you're right! but

I would also look into fetish type videos, the real perv stuff....because thats the way they think, on a perverted scale that most of us cannot relate to but since they view it in that manner they assume that everyone does. So yeah, I say look into shoe sniffer videos,fisting action...LOL! All the hard core stuff, and I'm not sure these guys are into women at all, in fact their more likely to be into men, or children perhaps.

[JackDragna]

27. My god, this is scary..

I hope people having children aren't seriously reading this.

[Hello_Kitty]

29. They are confusing sexual orientation with sexual identity

Fundie wingnuts don't distinguish between transgendered and gay persons and this hideous guidance demonstrates that. Clearly, a boy who exhibits no. 7 is struggling with his gender and needs to be seen by a medical expert who specializes in that.


Gawd, I feel sorry for kids of Dobson followers.

[mode13h_net]

31. 6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.

in other words: "doesn't act stupid."

[dissent1977]

34. Number five is the worst of a sick list

"5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”"

So if kids bully them then their parents are supposed to believe the bullies and shame the kid? My god these people are sick, they are coming close to advocating emotional abuse.

[GreenPartyVoter]

36. Better a homosexual than a fundagelical!

[gauguin57]

37. Focus on the Family can FOCUS ON MY FANNY!

Man! This is right out of the "Duck and Cover" genre: Getting under a picnic blanket will save you from radiation.

Also reminds me of the misinformation in our little Kotex-published books about our periods we got in school in the '60s:

GIRLS! Don't go outside with wet hair during your period!

Now: Crying, unathletic boys are turning GAY, so you'd better do something!

What a bunch of ignorant horseshit!

God save us from the Fundies! I'm getting pretty scared, people!

[Throckmorton]

39. I think I'm suppose to wave my penis at him,

at least until DYFS shows up and has me jailed.

[Fleshdancer]

41. You should probably dress up your penis...make a puppet show out of

your masculine, righteous heterosexuality...until DYFS shows up of course. :)

[titoresque]

42. STOP IT STOP IT!

you're killing me LMAO!!!!!!!! hAAAAAA-Haaaaaaaaaa! You two are tooo funny! Thanks for comic relief!
Can you believe these whack jobs?!

[Fleshdancer]

40. I wonder what it says about budding lesbians....

Is your daughter too confrontational? Does she hate to cook? Would she rather play sports instead of painting her nails? Is she too ambitious? Too analytical? Does she care about having rights to her own body?

forcing ridiculous gender stereotypes on children really piss me off.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

50. I would have driven o' Dobson

completely nuts!

I grew up a very serious tomboy, always wanted to wear pants, played with Hot Wheels and loved using tools which I learned from my Grandpa.

Today I am still a pants wearing tomboy who could build a house if she needed to. And I love the boys! ;)

[Fleshdancer]

53. You mean your masculine love for hot wheels didn't affect your

sexual orientation!!???!! *GASP!* How could that be? lol!

Friends of my parents voiced their concerns over me once when I was in highschool because I went to an Indigo Girls concert. Yep...because when a lesbian sings a song, we all get converted. Damn those homosexual sirens. :eyes:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

56. My Mom admitted that she was a bit freaked out...

back in the day by my tomboyishness. Wouldn't buy me Legos for Xmas because she thought they were a tad "boyish" (the Hot Wheels belonged to the boy next door) -- didn't want to encourage my "masculine love" of boy toys, ya know. ;)

Now, she is thankful for my "boy" ways -- she's saved a bundle on repairmen over the years! I'm refinishing her house, including a kitchen remodel, and will tackle a backyard landscape job next summer.

Interestingly, I feel at my most sexy and feminine when I am at my tomboyest best.

An Indigo Girls concert?!?! OMG! I'm surprised you made it out woithout a brand new toaster in tow! :D

[ZombieNixon]

43. ...

2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.

-At my current age (18), I strongly prefer wrestling with girls to wrestling with boys. :evilgrin:

6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.

-I've always thought that thinking "effeminately" (i.e. getting inside her head) was the best way to understand women. I'm not very good at it, but it seems like a valuable skill to me.

Just my $0.02

[sexybomber]

46. HA!

Good point! Although I think the list suggests that if you dislike wresting, period, then you must be gay.

[progressivebydesign]

44. Sick how one man's lunatic beliefs are being peddled to millions.

I mean.. it's one guy's fear of his own sexuality, I believe, that is fueling all that crazy talk. There is something seriously wrong with those people...

I found the comments that the Girl Scouts are infiltrated by Lesbians to be unbelievable. They state a figure that 33% of the Girl Scout staff are lesbians. Umm.. so what? Anyone here know of any girl-molesting lesbians? Me neither. How about any stories of lesbian Girl Scout staffers turning a brownie into a lesbian? Me neither. I tell you what, though, I worked at a home for abused and neglected kids, it was a difficult place to be, but made a difference for hundreds of kids who would otherwise be dead by the time they were 16.. and at least half the staff was gay or lesbian. NOT because they had some ulterior motives in being around the kids, as those assbites at that website would have you believe, but because they were the ones who were willing to work in such an emotionally charged and draining place. Because they knew what it was like to feel different and had often had their own difficulties as children. I really resent those idiots at Focus and their bigotry. Must be easy to spout all that stuff when you're filthy rich and shielded from real life. They are a hate group.

[julialnyc]

45. here's how they suggest you "deal"

If Your Child Needs Help
If your child exhibits repeated overt prehomosexual tendencies:

1. Accept your child and affirm his or her worth regardless of the characteristics you observe. Show unconditional love.

2. Don’t wait until your daughter’s masculinized behavior or your son’s effeminate preferences get any worse. Remember that for many prehomosexual boys and girls, some of the characteristics may be more subtle:

inability to bond with same-sex peers
feeling different from and inferior to other same-sex peers
discomfort with his or her gender
3. Call to make an appointment with a professional therapist who believes change is possible. Work patiently with that therapist in redirecting your child’s prehomosexual behaviors. To find a qualified therapist, contact one of these organizations:
Exodus International
P.O. Box 540199, Orlando, FL 32854
Phone: [phone] or 888-264-0877 (toll-free)
Fax: [phone]

National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
16633 Ventura Blvd., Suite 1340
Encino, CA 91436
Phone: [phone]
http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000690.html

[Misunderestimator]

47. But wait! Where are the tips for recognizing a gay girl child?

That's not fair at all.

[ourbluenation]

48. I thought your pops just had to wave his magic penis over you

and all would be well????

[titoresque]

51. NAW THATS JIST WUN OF THIM THER

WIVES TALES! Aww Shucks!

:)

[pointblank]

49. After reading this ....

I seriously wouldn't mind a civil war with these fucks...


Lets divide it up people, I can't live among these inbreds anymore. End of story..they are warped, far beyond repair.

I try not to hate, but I can't help it...my blood is boiling.

[titoresque]

52. YeeeeHaw! Bring it on INBREDS!!!

LOL! Seriously, I have a black t-shirt with big white lettering on it that simply say's FREE SPEECH ........and wouldnt you know it, I have all these fucks giving me dirty looks and shaking their heads!

FREE SPEECH for christ sake! They're too stupid to breed! Can't take it anymore...can't take it!

[liberalpragmatist]

54. If you think you're child is gay, wave your penis in his face

I posted this a couple days ago. In an accompanying newsletter, Dobson issued an excerpt of his book - the chapter on homosexuality and "prehomosexuality." The following passage is actually an excerpt by anti-gay quack Dr. James Nicolosi who is quoted approvingly in this text:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4307241&mesg_id=4307241

...the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

Showering with a very young child is one thing - doing it because you think your child might be gay and you want to "impress" him with your maleness is bizarre and creepy. Moreover, it's not even clear Nicolosi and Dobson mean only very young children (as in younger than 3). Given that in the article they talk about traits that only children older than 5 could exhibit, there's certainly reason for thinking they mean children older than 5 as well. So, you're 7 or 8 year old "effeminate" son? Throw him in there, dads.

I'll leave it to Dan Savage (who's posting on Andrew Sullivan's blog) to point out the ridiculousness of this:

http://www.andrewsullivan.com

I don’t know whether to file this ridiculous/tragic or tragic/ridiculous.

And it’s wrong on so many levels I don’t even know where to begin. I have two older brothers, Bill and Ed. We had the same father, also Bill, and he played the same games with us. I don’t recall ever showering with my dad, but I’m pretty sure Dad didn’t drag my brothers into the shower and waggle his penis in their faces either. So it seems unlikely that my want of face-time with dad’s cock made me gay. And somehow—once again, we had the same Dad—my brothers managed to grow up straight.

I have a son, and I don’t shower with him, and I can’t imagine that the Docs Dobson and Nicolosi want me to. My boyfriend, however, does occasionally shower with our son; he takes him swimming at the Y, and you have to shower before you get into the pool. But I kind of doubt that seeing my boyfriend’s penis in the YMCA showers made our son straight. (I’ve been examining my boyfriend’s penis for more than 10 years now—in the shower and other locations—and it hasn’t made me straight.) And I’m convinced our son is straight.

[pointblank]

57. "If you think you're child is gay, wave your penis in his face"

:rofl:









Good god...I can't take, I just can't take it.

[Dr Fate]

61. Nailing pegs into holes???

Does this guy understand that this basic mechanic movement can apply to either preference????

WEIRDOS!!!!

[Ganja Ninja]

55. When a young man decides to become a cheerleader ...

is that something we should be worried about?
:woohoo: :shrug:

[sexybomber]

60. Are the cheerleaders cute?

Personally I think that male cheerleaders are LESS likely to be gay. It would be a great way to meet women!

Plus there's the trust factor with throwing them up in the air and whatnot... can't hurt...

Geez, why didn't I think of this sooner?! :evilgrin:

[Dr Fate]

62. Like George"I like Bush" Bush, or Trent "Mint Julep" Lott.

Both famous male cheerleaders.

MANLY MEN indeed!!!!

[Dr Fate]

58. Dobson's cure: "Get 'em in a hot shower & show 'em your dick."

Warped, warped people.

[titoresque]

59. I write a column for a GLBT magazine

maybe some of you local here know....Echo magazine. Anyhow, this is great stuff! great stuff! LOL!

My column is called "Family Focus" I think the editor thought it would be good when people google, they might find our articles as well. Will have to write about this for sure!

Too much!!!

[Ganja Ninja]

63. It sounds like Rev Dobson has been getting tips from Jacko ...

on how to relate to young boys.

[Dr Fate]

64. He suggests "Rough housing" with them.

An age old Ped. trick as well. "Boys- lets wrestle!! It's fun!!!"