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Fri Aug-12-05 02:36 PM
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Just got off the phone with Anarchy1999 RE: AA radio debacle |
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Okay, here is what I learned from A1999- Apparently, Rhandi Rhodes pledged 200 sandwiches and help with transportation to and from Camp Casey for protest participants, on air. Talk show host reality "on air' versus the follow up and reality on the ground, as usual, turned out to be quite different. Barry C, from AA radio told A1999 that they could not afford such support and that the Internet community should be utilized for financial support for the afore needs mentioned. Somene called Rhandi and told her they didn't need sandwiches. That news from A1999. That is all I know, but it sounds like Crawford is turning into a venue for media figures to spotlight themselves, rather than Cindy's cause. Very disappointed, but not at all surprised.
I told A1999 to go SLEEP, as she sounded exhausted. BHN
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:37 PM
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1. Sounds about like what I gleaned from her earlier posts. Still waiting |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 02:37 PM by GreenPartyVoter
to hear what Randi says and hoping those busses come through after all.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:41 PM
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4. I couldn't imagine her not following through on this... |
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:35 PM
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43. Randi very pointedly yesterday that she would take care of the big |
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cost items, and that people should just try and get down there. So far she has been mum on the buses. You would think that though she ended the program on that note yesterday, she would have picked up on it now. She is not asking for people to get down there.
Another note though. Barry Crimmins put a Randi listener named Dot on the phone. Dot has been down there since Monday and she had no harsh words for Randi at all, in fact was very upbeat. If there was such a problem, wouldn't she have said something?
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:40 PM
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:41 PM
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3. If AAR (and Randi Rhodes) have withdrawn their support |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 02:42 PM by ohio_liberal
I hope someone calls in and asks questions
edited for clarity
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:41 PM
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if they knew Randi was going to make the offer in the first place.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:43 PM
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That's why I'm hoping someone with some understanding of the situation calls in
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:44 PM
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10. It sounded off the cuff to me when I hear them talk about it yesterday, |
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but I can't imagine Randi saying she would help out and then not follow through.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:46 PM
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13. I think so too.. she probably tangled with corporate over it and lost. |
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:50 PM
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When I hear Randi make this type of pledge |
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I assume two things: that this is a personal committment, and that she will follow through. I think she does well enough to afford two hundred sandwiches and some busses. If not, she should organize a fundraising machine that can fund these things. If she is so passionate about these things, why is she promising other people's money? Put your money where your mouth is.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:56 PM
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Are you going to be in Crawford Sunday or Monday?
If you are, please PM me, and let's make arrangements to meet each other.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:03 PM
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27. Gonna be there Saturday... |
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Sunday I'll be at Chris Bell's campaign kickoff in Austin...he's announcing for governor that afternoon. Monday is work. Sorry. :(
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:10 PM
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35. Shoot! I was hoping to meet you. |
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Maybe another time, another place. :hi:
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:20 PM
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39. I'm sure I'll be out there again a time or two... |
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before this whole thing is over. :hi:
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:41 PM
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5. ok well this sucks big... and makes me quite pissed. |
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We do not need this kinda circus...
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:42 PM
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Gemme a break, I think you are right A1999 needs to rest. Sounds a little lame to be getting your panties all in a bunch over..
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:44 PM
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8. well it's a big deal if they were counting on it and AAR went back on it. |
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:45 PM
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12. Welcome to DU and thanks for the LAUGH- |
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What ARE you referring to anyway? BHN
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:59 PM
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21. I agree. Why obsess over minor distractions? |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 03:00 PM by tabasco
Stay on message. Where is Bush?Nobody goes to Crawford, Texas expecting a radio station to send them sandwiches.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:01 PM
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Welcome to DU and I do hope you enjoy your stay.
Carpe Diem.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:44 PM
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9. So far, I think this is much ado about NOTHING. |
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What details do we have? Solid details.
First it was broken promises of food. Which turned out to be false because they don't need any food.
Then it was broken promises on busses. But I can't find one account of anyone being stranded, or needing transportation, anywhere but the original thread. Does anyone else have any verification of people being stranded, or busses not showing up when they were supposed to?
I think the advice that was given should be listend to: Get some sleep!
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:45 PM
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11. So let me see, Randi says SHE will do something, someone |
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assumes that AAR is doing it, AAR doesn't acknowledge what Randi said SHE would do.
Notice Randi did NOT say AAR would do that, she said SHE would. That means AAR has no involvement. Barry wouldn't know anything about it because Randid did not commit Barry to anything, she committed herself as an individual.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:50 PM
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15. He was the one called out in the previous locked thread |
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I don't know what it all means. I'm so confused :shrug:
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:48 PM
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14. Bottom line here - if they need transportation issues solved. |
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I'm sure that can be done... I don't wanna put any more negativity out there.. So if we hear from someone that there is a need and if indeed there are people stranded, we can work from there to fix it.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:53 PM
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16. the need for shuttles- |
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A1999 told me there is absolutely NO parking available near the pig farm at this point- she said the locals in Crawford are PISSED about the flood of war protesters- the environment is NOT user friendly and the influx of people arriving and cars is a very big problem. Thus, the very real need for shuttles. Basically, they are out of parking space. Period. And the locals are NOT happy with the situation. That is all I know for now. BHN
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:06 PM
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30. Somehow right now I couldn't care less about how inconvenient this |
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is for the locals. Their high profile neighbor, George Bush, could end this now by going on the air with Cindy Sheehan and answering her questions.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:56 PM
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18. I have known Randi since 1989 |
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and I found some of the other posts very hard to believe. Randi is one of the most generous people on this planet. What she has done for the community in Florida has been superhuman. For years, Randi has gotten the citizens of Palm Beach to provide Christmas to Foster kids in Palm Beach who have never had anything.
One time an elderly gentleman called her to tell her one of his acts in the Korean War, she asked if he had received the appropriate medal, he said No he never did. She got it for him after months of trying, she wouldn't give up.
When Randi says she is going to do something, you can bet your bottom dollar it will be done.
If AAR wasn't going to foot the bill, Randi would go to her own wallet without a moments hesitation. I was sorry to see her being bashed.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:02 PM
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24. I don't know her personally but this is my impression as well |
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I can understand that the people that are literally in the trenches in Crawford to be a bit high strung at the moment and emotionally respond to the difficulties in organizing and maintaining the spontaneous protest/vigil in the middle of nowhere. I wish to God I could be there helping but I just can't financially. If Randi said it she meant it, I seriously doubt it was to gain publicity or steal Cindy's thunder. If it is at all possible she will do what she says. Not only does she seem honest but as a former service member this isn't abstract for her. She really does support the troops and that means their families. I really wish people would take a breath and give her the benefit of the doubt for a day or two at least. We can't aim our anger at our comrades.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:03 PM
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I've been reading these threads with much sadness. There are people here who have spent most of the day speculating and slinging dirt. This is supposed to be about Cindy and Casey and I hope people will just take a breath, and just wait and see what happens instead of getting hysterical. You are very lucky to be friends with such a compassionate, intelligent and generous American.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:57 PM
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19. Why not call the Peace House directly and ask what assistance they need. |
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If I have to run people back and forth from Waco to Crawford in my little car, I'll do it. This problem can be resolved.
Let's look for solutions instead of panicking and blaming people.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:07 PM
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33. If you're willing to do the driving |
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Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 03:11 PM by LeftyMom
I can paypal a few bucks toward a van rental, I'd think that'd be more efficient than a lot of wo/manpower and single family passenger cars. Seems like we could easily hook you up with enough for a 15 passenger van and gas if we work together on it as a community.
Just a thought, I'm not volunteering you for an unwanted bigger job or anything.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:13 PM
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37. I did that earlier today. Office supplies needed: |
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reams of paper, note pads, file folders, markers, pens & tape to name a few.
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Fri Aug-12-05 02:59 PM
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20. About the sandwiches, I heard a caller on air telling her |
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they didn't need food, which she had offered, but would she spend the money on shuttles instead. I took it to mean the the price of 200 sandwiches would be donated toward renting shuttles, not that she was going to fund the whole deal and sandwiches too. I hope she clears this up.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:00 PM
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22. Who was it that called Randi and told her to cancel the sandwiches? |
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:02 PM
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25. No, Barry Cremmins said they had plenty of food so didn't order them (so |
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I heard).
I don't care about he-said she said. I just want to know that the huge influx of supporters who are sure to go to Crawford over the weekend have a way to get there from the airport. :)
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:05 PM
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fly or drive, shouldn't they work at getting to the pig farm themselves and not rely on someone else?
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:07 PM
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32. If they can they should, but you have to remember parking is extremely |
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limited. They will get in trouble if they have too many vehicles, hence the need for shuttles to and from the Peace house and the protest area. A taxi might be fine for getting them from the airport to Camp Casey, but they can't keep calling taxis to go back and forth.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:03 PM
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28. It was a woman who Barry put on. |
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And they all three talked about it together. But Randi had told Barry to put the sandwiches on her credit card. That seems to mean it was a personal offer. Instead they asked her to use the money for transportation or shuttles. I don't think she intended on paying for all the transportation, just putting the price of 200 sandwiches towards it.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:06 PM
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31. Only one person has made allegations |
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that Randi reneged on her promise. Is there anyone else at Camp Casey who can confirm these allegations?
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:11 PM
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36. There was also a cry for help in the message |
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but no clarification of what exactly is needed
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:20 PM
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40. Frankly - I watched that person posting last week and he/she |
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appeared to be an alarmist as in the "sky is falling, the sky is falling". I understand that she/he is desperate to make a difference but this is Cindy's show and having had a lot of experience in protest/rights movements I can spot someone from 1500 miles away that is trying to make it about themselves while taking the moral highground. Actually, it made me glad I was not in Crawford - brought back bad memories. Every movement has this problem and I no longer have the patience to deal with certain personality types.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:27 PM
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41. Randi will not renege on her promise |
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I'm sure. Sounds like a little mix-up. Money for food, changed to money for transportation. That would need verification from the person whose credit card was to be used, that's all.
It's wonderful that so many people are supporting Cindy, all over the country, and even the world.
It speaks volumes that Bush just can't talk to the mother of a fallen soldier. It shows what a coward he is. He cannot answer her questions, unless he reverts back to the old lies, which don't work anymore. Certainly not with Cindy.
Whether he talks to her or not, his lies about this war are exposed. If he wasn't lying, he could apologize to her and simply say 'I made a mistake, but I truly thought the information I had was true and that this country was in danger'.
He CANNOT say that, because he knew full well that he was doing when he told the lies that got Cindy's son killed.
Problem for Bush is that the soldiers are real people, with real families, just like his (I know, he thinks he's different, above all us little people and he's getting a reality check) who will live the rest of their lives with the tragic results of the lies he told, both here and in Iraq.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:30 PM
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42. I don't believe she will either |
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That's why I asked if there's anyone else at Camp Casey who can confirm the allegations that have been made against Randi. Call me skeptical, but I don't believe anything when there's only a single source for the info.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:08 PM
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on Randi's show yesterday was that SHE personally was going to donate sandwiches, busses, whatever they needed. Why is everyone so quick to trash AAR?
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:19 PM
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38. I also heard her make the offer... |
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I listened to her twice, once streaming and once on the Quake. The person she was talking to from Camp Casey finished, then as the call was ending, asked Randi one more thing. Could she fund shuttles? Randi immediately said Yes and that it would be arranged. Sounded sincere to me.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:38 PM
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45. That is exactly what she said. She said no one should worry about |
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money. She would take care of it, and she just wanted people to come down there.
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Fri Aug-12-05 03:35 PM
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44. i dont know the facts right now |
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All I know is that someone should make Randi aware of this issue and she needs to clear it up. Can someone get in touch with her???
SHE NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS!
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Fri Aug-12-05 04:18 PM
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46. I don't think anybody has the solid answer and pls stop attacking. |
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Please please stop attacking the orgininal poster, she has been an angel in crawford since last weekend... and kept us here at DU very informed of needs. She's tired and I'm sure it's getting crazy there. No cause to hurt anyone over this.
Someone will find out the real story and it will all get cleared up one way or another.
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