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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:13 AM
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Myths about liberalism
1. They're for abortion.

No. Personally I'm against abortion. But what I'm for is giving ALL humans capable of making decisions the RIGHT to make decisions about their own bodies. It's between them, their healthcare provider, and their God. It has nothing to do with the rest of us.

2. They're for gun control.

If, by this, you mean, they're for people controlling their guns, yeah. I believe in safe, responsible gun ownership. AND the ability to hit one's target.

3. They're for rampant taxation.

Personally I prefer Intelligent Taxation. I want to see our money spent wisely, with all due consideration. I want to see schools built to code, with all the newest technology, but without the huge marble edifices (contractor boondoggle) that some people seem to think are necessary. A school needs to do what it's built to do--it doesn't have to look particularly pretty.

When I pass a road crew working, I want to see five people working and (at the most) ONE person watching...not the other way around.

Don't YOU?

4. They're for unlimited social programs.

I want to see social programs that MAKE SENSE. I want to see a safety net capable of catching someone who needs help, getting them back on their feet, and making them MORE productive members of society than they would have been without that assistance. I want to see welfare recipients go out and get a job that pays more into the system than it takes out.

I want to streamline programs, eliminate bureaucratic waste, and make them more easily reformed when necessary to deal with new developments and new technologies.

5. They're pacifists and appeasers.

Come say that to my face. ;) Seriously--I believe in restricting conflict to when it's absolutely necessary. War against an overt aggressor is one thing...war against a 'notion' or 'idea' is something else. Terrorists are criminals, not soldiers. One hunts them down, arrests them, indicts them, and puts them on trial. One does not attack a country allegedly hoping that all the terrorists flock there and die in glorious battle.

6. They're anti-business.

I'm anti-corruption. When the needs of businesses outweigh the needs of the people who SUPPORT those businesses--as employees or customers--I've got an issue with it. When legislation comes along that inflates profit at the expense of the taxpayers who keep businesses running, I'm against it.

7. They don't have any constructive ideas.

We have plenty of ideas. Ours just aren't delivered in bombastic fashion by a complicit media that prefers sensationalism to substance.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:16 AM
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1. Good post
Nominated
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:17 AM
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2. Hear, hear!
Kicked! Exactly how I feel.

But, be careful, comrade, for all wall have ears. :eyes:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:19 AM
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3. Excellent thread!
That sums things up quite nicely.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:19 AM
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4. Every negative thing ever said about Liberalism is a myth.
Liberal = Generous.

We are put the needs of living things before anything else.

We are pro-life in the greatest, and most all encompassing sense of the word.

We put people before profit.

Something to be very proud of.
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:20 AM
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5. Well said!! The Right has simply learned....
to reword everything a person or group says to gain votes. Their skewed rewording techniques are so see-through that I cannot understand anyone falling for them, though.

Thank you for your post - it's right-on!
emdee
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:20 AM
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6. May i add one more?
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 12:21 AM by DanCa
Not all liberals are aetheists.. Liberal Church goers just have the class not to push it in your face 24/7 and respect everyones right to worship or not to as they please.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:22 AM
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7. That's a good one too...
It wasn't one I'd point out simply because I'm not a Christian. Not an atheist either... I'm a pantheistic humanist. I don't believe in revealed religion period...but I strongly support anyone's right to make their own determination on the subject.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:27 AM
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8.  Actually am starting to describe myself as a ecletic at this point
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 12:27 AM by DanCa
Bush has destroyed not only my faith in government but the justice sunday bunch are getting on my last nerves.
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:34 AM
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9. One more:
Liberal hate America.

This is one that is thrown at us, but is seeped with hypocrisy. Liberals believe in speaking out against oppression, just the same as the founding fathers did. I think in all honesty liberals are far more patriotic because they keep that spirit of American dissent alive.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:35 AM
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10. Oh, I've got another thread on that very one...
I figured it deserved its own...considering it's the BIG lie.
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