My conservative neighbor

[Turbineguy]

She's a smart lovely woman. A widow in her late 60's. She voted for Bush. We both know where the other stands politically. My view is that Bush is not worth losing friends over.

Yesterday, she was working was working in her garden, I walked over to say Hi. Without a preamble asked me where my son (USMC) was stationed (not Iraq). I told her and she said "Oh, good". We were both hopeful that he will stay where he is.

She then asked me if I knew about "The Woman" at Bush's ranch. She felt that Mrs. Sheehan would have a lot of support as a lot of people are against "this" war.

I've known this neighbor for 16 years now. I got the sense that she's figured out that Bush cannot be trusted to tell the truth. This may be why his poll numbers are dropping. At first I thought the poll numbers merely reflected those who actually voted for him.

I think this nice lady knows when she's being lied to.

[Gato Moteado]

1. if she knows when she's being lied to...

...then why did she vote for bush in the first place? didn't she watch the debates before both elections and watch chimpy lie? i saw the chimp lie....it wasn't hard to see.

sorry, i just don't put much faith in braindead repukes.

[Midnight Rambler]

3. Did you ever catch Mike Malloy's "Flying Monkey Right Night?"

He devoted his whole show to nothing but rightwing callers, and it was rather pathetic when not one of them could put together a coherent argument (one guy started to, but then he said some shit about how Kerry's gonna take away his guns). Anyway, Malloy noted that in talking to some of these and other Bush voters, he could sense a frustration going on, but they've been so brainwashed by Rsuh and his ilk to hate liberals that they literally can't vote for anyone but a Republican. It's really sad, and it goes to show just how mucyh damage these assholes have done.

[KharmaTrain]

2. There's A Silent Conversation Going On

Last night I was chatting with a 40-ish woman. Her hubby is a Gulf War I vet and both are gung-ho military repugnicans. Just like you, these are good people and I try to avoid politics and find things of common ground.

Last evening Deb mentioned to me that our sons will be turning 18 in a few months and I said how I hope both aren't called into the mess that's going on in Iraq. She knows I'm very outspoken about this invasion and we almost stopped talking altogether right after the invasion. I called it immoral. I still do.

I was expecting she'd come back with some right wing talking point...how we were stopping them there, but she surprised me...she said, "I fear for both our sons". I then asked if she was following Cindy Sheehan, and she said she had heard about the lady, but really didn't understand what was going on. I immediately linked her to Buzzflash.

An hour later, I heard back and she said how she was getting so angry and scared. First, that her son would be pressured into the military by his father and that they don't have much money for college or even a decent trade school. Then she expressed her concern her husband, Bill, would be called back in. While he's been retired for nearly 10 years, with the rise in the age he can be recalled (he's 38), she's worried he'll be called. He's worried, too, but he doesn't want to talk about it. I could really feel her angst.

I told her I'm supporting Cindy...and I'm ready to go to Washington to get the answers Cindy and the rest of us need about this war. We want straight answers. Deb said "I'll be there with you in spirit". I sense a real change going on.

Cheers...

[Toots]

4. I hope both her husband and son are called into the military

They are what brought Bush* upon America and they should pay the price. I have NO SYMPATHY. They voted to destroy America and they need to sacrifice for the God.

[KharmaTrain]

5. I'm Trying Compassion

You and I share that anger. I have called this war immoral from the outset and the revelations we've had to drag into the light make me angrier, but there are many who drank the kool-aid and now are starting to see they're been had. However, I'm not a vindictive person and won't wish more bad upon these poor souls...morally more than financially...than they've now put upon themselves.

[ScreamingMeemie]

6. I hope nobody's son gets called into serve out of anger over their

parents' politics. We've shed enough blood.

[Gato Moteado]

7. i'd like to see the young repubs get drafted

the college kids that support the war but are too cowardly to serve.

[ScreamingMeemie]

8. That's fine, but I wouldn't want to see my neighbor's kids ( who are

not politically inclined as of yet) sent off to war based upon their parent's politics. That was my point. I'm all for sending the ones who think they are somehow "above the average soldier and needed to fight the ideological fight at home" off to war. Support it, fight it is my thought....but not the innocent. :hi: You misread me.

[Gato Moteado]

9. no i read ya loud and clear......

i knew what you meant. i was just adding my two cents.

i agree 1000% with you.

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. Sorry 'bout that.

:hi:

[Douglas Carpenter]

11. That is really good

I am always befuddled by how nice many conservatives are in normal life. We can only hope than one by one a large portion of them see that their politics does not reflect the values they live in normal life.

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[Caretha]

12. Notice

when their politics are about to bite them in the ass, they have a change of heart? "These nice people" need to pay the price. Otherwise, it will continue and bite the rest of us in the ass too.

Sympathy? Not one ounce.....when they repent, when they try to heal this country, when they feel remorse, pain and guilt over all the mothers in Iraq who have lost their children, and the Iraqis who have lost husbands, sisters, brothers, wives, mothers etc. and own up to their part in this catastrophe, and ask for forgiveness for their shallow, self-centered ways, then and only then, will I have sympathy for them.