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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:49 PM
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Whoever leaked this is a traitor.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 05:50 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
Senator Harry Reid-D of Nevada just said in the Senate floor on regards to the retaliotory White House outing of CIA agents who don't tow the Nazi line. It's on C-SPAN right now.

I think that the word traitor is appropriate.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:51 PM
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1. Traitor is a word that will stick, too.
I'd say a good 20% of the conservative media whores are pissed about this. Perhaps they have grandchildren and are therefore truly concerned with national security.

BushCo are traitors.
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Bucky__Badger Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:53 PM
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2. agreed... "traitor" fits

Now, I'll bet anyone twenty bucks Rove is the traitor. And I'll bet another twenty he never gets caught. He's Karl Rove... the invincible one.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:55 PM
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5. I don't know..
he may have gotten away with all everything else, but he's messed with the CIA now. I don't know if many have walked away unscathed after messing with the CIA.

These guys make Tony Soprano look like a Boy scout.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:55 PM
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3. Official Definition of Treason
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleiii.html#section3

Does giving away the identity of an important CIA operative constitute giving aid and comfort to those who seek to harm the U.S.? I think so.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:00 PM
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7. And where does the buck stop?
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 06:00 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
In this admin, it stops everywhere but the oval office. Forget just going after Rove. This goes all the way to the top. Don't tell me that bush didn't know about this.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:55 PM
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4. And so is anyone who obstructs justice and
tries to cover this up.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 05:58 PM
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6. Wow, the Dems are coming out strong!
Makes me feel relieved and proud.

The people behind the outing are traitors and for much more than the outing...
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:13 PM
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8. if the outed person is an operative, agent, asset, or otherwise
person working undercover, or uses espionage, or any of that top secret crap, then whoever outed them should be imprisoned to the fullest extent of the law.

Furthermore, if this "outer" is acting as an agent of a higher authority, that higher authority should be indicted as well, and sent to prison.

However, if it turns out this person's official position is clerical, whoever outed them SHOULD STILL be fired to make an example.

The CIA does all sorts of crazy stuff. Stuff I don't want to know about but may be realistically necessary. It is important that these people enjoy secrecy and respect. You'd think that Bush Jr would respect the organization Bush Sr. ran.

Regardless, I think Novak did not use the common sense God gave a doorknob. He should have left the name out, for respect. He would have definitely been on the govt side in Sullivan, so maybe he would err on the side of decency here.
He should apologize. But I do not want to see him lose his job due to the protection enjoyed by the press.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:20 PM
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9. Certainly a murderer
Since at least half a dozen reporters were the subjects of the planted story when it happened, it had to have been authorized by Rove at a minimum, and probably by Bush.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:23 PM
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10. It would seem...
... that the pink tutus have been placed in the old steamer trunk in the Democratic attic! Go GET 'EM, guys! :evilgrin:
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:24 PM
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11. and it's TREASON DURING WARTIME!
send that meme out as well

TREASON DURING WARTIME:nuke:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:27 PM
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12. The 'traitor' is also still in the White House
and STILL privy to highly classified information. The fact that Bush hasn't called for at LEAST an in-house investigation speaks volumes of his concern for national security.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:29 PM
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13. I want to see the crooks hauled out in cuffs.
If someone actually did something wrong. You are right. The word would be appropriate.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 06:34 PM
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14. Most of the outrage is about breaking a law
But consider this.

Ms.Plame worked in tracking WMD. If her contacts working overseas were there to identify terrorists buying a nuke from say NK and suddenly Novak outs Plame thus allowing the operatives to be identified/killed. This would leave the USA wide open in time of war.

I am wondering how bad the damage is, are we wide open now? This would be the same as openning a castle door during a siege.

Of course this is treason.

And to have the source of the leak be someone within the whitehouse is surreal. For the purpose of revenge? Or was it on purpose to open our defenses?

Are these guys idiots? Or are they smart and are trying for another trifecta?

Can a traitor be hung in time of war?

I am outraged.

:mad:
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