The fix is in

[zeemike]

I am posting this now because it may not be legal under the new rules.

But I am predicting that the fix is in and the outcome of the 04 elections has been decided.
I say this because of the new polls that show Arnold winning in California. And this poll assumes a low voter turnout. (Why would they assume that when all indications are the opposite)
And at the same time Clark comes form nowhere and jumps into the lead by the same type of polls. And we are endless told that only a military man can compete with bush.
And so I see Clark getting the nomination and running against bush. The polls will tell us it will be close but in the end bush will win and Clark will gracefully concede.
Now this is all prophesy on my part and if I am wrong I want to pull this up from the archives and suffer whatever humiliation Duers want to heap on me. I will gladly suffer whatever to be wrong.
But if I am right I want to pull it up to say I told you so, so that you might not be fooled again, even though it no longer matters.

[PaDUer]

1. The fix has been in

long ago..they've taken care of everything, and they've been allowing the people to go through the motions, however, it doesn't matter. Weren't you a bit surprised about the past governors elections, along w/ the 2000 theft??

[zeemike]

7. No

I never realized it until I started reading about BBV
On some things I am pretty slow.

[PaDUer]

11. We have to keep ALL the truths

in front now, and not allow them to wiggle themselves out...Payback's a bitch..and gitmo's too good for them!!

[whathappened]

2. why could'nt this be

the way they are playing this election out , i'm not impressed with how jr. is running this country along with a whole lot of other people , and if clark wins , how do we no that he won't just carry on jr.s programs as they are , jr. is'nt calling the shots in d.c. now or was he ever , some group of people who i don't no , but have a good feeling are telling jr. every step to make , he is just a show man and nothing else

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

23. yes, the establishment will replace Bush with Clark, good for Democrats

I got this from a very good source :)

There is no difference in foreign policy between the Republicans and the Democrats, other than the Bush's refusal to work with our allies, which is seriously damaging our international standing. PNAC was originally presented to Clinton, and he started bombing Iraq. Bush is just incompetent.

If we can demand Clark choose a progressive populist as VP, and give our VP enough power to do something useful, it will be good for the Democratic party and progressives in general.

[zeemike]

29. Or

We might get fooled again

[zeemike]

3. Just to kick it

Hanity I posing the question is Bush vulnerable and Can Clark beat him?
Is anyone surprised?

[QC]

5. Bush is only in his 50's.

I would hardly call that venerable.

[ima_sinnic]

8. I thnk the poster meant vulnerable n/t

[zeemike]

10. Sorry

I corrected the spelling error

[LittleApple81]

6. Do you mean vulnerable???

venerable is what the repugs think of him.

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[zeemike]

13. I do know shit when I smell it

And so do you.
I have told you that this is prophecy and not personal knowledge, and because of the new rules this may not be allowed.
Take it as you will, but every successful profit has not been believed, and I am no exception in that respect.

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[ShaneGR]

17. You mean....

Rude to disruptors?

[zeemike]

19. I did not consider the remarks rude

But I am a disrupter of the status quo that is for sure.

[ShaneGR]

16. Prophesy?

Ok, so you have a crystal ball? Did a card reading?

[zeemike]

18. No I just trusted my instincts

And connected the dots.

[Pepperbelly]

21. Many unsuccessful ones are disbelieved as well ...

No profit in the Prophecy Biz ... :D

[zeemike]

26. It is my hope

That it is false and I will have to suffer all kinds of derision for what I have said. it would be worth it to have change come to the nation.

[LittleApple81]

9. I think he is vulnerable and not verenable

If we don't allow the machines to take over the voting, we have a chance to win.
People are willing to hit the pavement if necessary to get rid of this sorry excuse for a human being and is cohort.

[izzie]

12. Bush did not take to kindly to not taking Ca. He pays back and gets

even. Winning anyway is this groups plan.But do recall that Dem had congress for many years and they did some funny things them selfs. I do not think getting rid of the Bill of Rights were in their plan.Power does do odd things to people.:grr:

[eileen_d]

14. right on..

Oops, wrong thread. Well, I kicked it anyway
:kick:

[Julien Sorel]

20. So is Clark part of this fix?

And if one of the other candidates lost, would they concede gracefully as well?

[zeemike]

24. Who could know that but him?

And if he is he wouldn’t tell now would he?
Liberman yes
Gephart yes
The rest I would say no

[smallprint]

22. i agree that the fix is in, in california

that latest poll is absurd... i don't believe arnold's numbers could shoot up so spectacularly so fast, especially with such a pathetic performance at the debate. i think the cali people are trying to make him look like he's got it wrapped up in order to discourage dem and independent voters from going to the polls... fewer votes cast mean that it's easier to fix the results...

however, in terms of clark v bush, i think that even if clark wins, the fix is still there-- without going into flame territory, the guy is part of "the system", i.e. the military industrial complex.

i think it's good to talk about these things, despite the theoretical nature of the subject -- it keeps one's mind open...

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[xray s]

27. And this type of post makes Rove's dick hard

If enough people can be convinced that the election is meaningless, that the "fix is in", that their vote will not count....Bush will win handily.

Because no one will be motivated to GET OFF THEIR ASS and WORK to get a Democrat elected to the White House and Democrats elected to the Senate and the House.

So keep it up....Karl just loves it.

[zeemike]

28. That’s bullshit

Being outed does not make his dick hard. It scares the shit out of them and they put it of to the conspiracy theory to marginalize it as much as possible.
If people were to believe what has been said they would not let there vote be stolen and would raise holy hell and you know it.