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Mon Sep-29-03 08:47 PM
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FOX: WH officials said Plame had abused her position to get hubby job |
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Oh, lordy ... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98522,00.html"Over the weekend, the story broke that Novak was one of a half dozen reporters called by two high-level White House officials who said Plame had abused her position to get her husband the Niger job."
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:48 PM
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1. Oh yes, the adults are in charge aren't they. |
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:49 PM
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2. yeah how mature they are heh |
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Novak fucked up. I hate him a lot. Hey Bob you screwed up.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:50 PM
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seany boy..the good little catholic cheerleader..anyone know if he was an alter boy? LOL..He's the biggest hypocrite of all..what's he going to do when the roof caves in!? Take him along to jail w/ the rest of the mobsters and murderers!
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:53 PM
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43. hey I am Catholic and Irish |
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We dont want him and O'Reilly.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:49 PM
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FUCK those right-wing MOTHER-FUCKERS!
Like that makes it *OK* to break the law and expose a CIA operative?
:grr:
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:50 PM
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4. What did her contacts do though? |
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Or is that just tough for them?
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:50 PM
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5. The slime machine is now fully on |
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And they are in defenseive mode.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:52 PM
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and the pretend horses they rode in on--just like the ones at the "western wh".
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:58 PM
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26. Lou Dobb's approach was to suggest that everyone knew |
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that Plame was CIA so it wasn't "outing" at all. He said this was reported/suggested in National Review. I suppose they think this is a good excuse because they can get people to lie and say "sure I knew"?
One thing that is being reported in various ways--so I'm not sure what's true. Some say the DoJ got the complaint from CIA in late July, and that they've been sitting on it. True? (It certainly seems likely, with Ashcroft making the calls.)
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:04 PM
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31. These are the talking points |
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at least by this afternoon. Driving downtown a right wing radio host here in Denver was pushing that notion that it was old news that everyone knew she was CIA. Well, I guess Novak was doing the rest of us a favor letting us in on it, too.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:13 PM
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46. Good, let's send the staff of National Review to Gitmo too! |
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Mon Sep-29-03 11:06 PM
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48. I just went to see what National Review had written. |
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There were two VICIOUS columns, one by Clifford May (who also wrote nasty columns in July about Wilson (saying that his left-wing politics disqualified him for any comment about the war against Iraq!). He blames Wilson for any problems his wife may have, because if he hadn't gotten involved in the Iraq debate, none of this would have happened. Seems to think Wilson was just hungry for his 15 minutes of fame. Etc., etc. It's awful to read--pure propaganda, but it's easy to see that May is one of the talking-point generaters, on this issue at least.
The other columnist, Mark Levin, basically echoed May, but added that the CIA was to blame for Plame being outed. If they'd wanted her safe, they shouldn't have sent her husband to Niger.
Enough of the above garbage!
WOW--just tuned in to C-Span, rerun of Wash journal this morning. Wilson is taking a question from a caller who said that appearing with Ray McGovern shows that he is part of the CIA faction that is disloyal to Bush*, etc. This segment should be viewable at the C-Span website--see it if you can.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:50 PM
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Man who beat wife claims wife deserved it.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:51 PM
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8. Papa Bush used his position to get his idiot a job |
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and look how that turned out!! I don't care if Wilson got his job 'cause he was screwing the White House dog...that still doesn't make the "leak" less criminal! Tell it to the judge.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:51 PM
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9. Gettin' out the heavy artillerary now! |
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I say again...the bushwa has picked the wrong man to screw over! :)
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:51 PM
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10. Treking into faux tv is like stepping in horse shit. |
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As an American they are a deep embarassment.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:55 PM
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17. Yeah, but you can wash off the horseshit. |
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faux news is like ... ... um... nothing else.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:56 PM
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for the Faux News Fans... The Real Faux News
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:48 PM
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41. Fox ain't American. It's Australian owned, isn't it now? |
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Murdoch bought his citizenship. And uses that excuse to control our news.
Am I right about Murdoch being Australian? He owns the British press too, doesn't he?
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:53 PM
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12. So they are above the LAW? |
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The issue is not what she did it, it the treason they committed, when they outted her.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:54 PM
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13. So Fox has officially taken the side of the Treasonous staffer? |
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Identifying an undercover CIA operative violates two laws and, in this case, the offender "outed" the one person BUSH whould have been coveting openly...An EXPERT in WOMD! Bush's big bugaboo and greatest fear that terrorists will one day get, WOMD!!!
The White House should be livid over the obvious attempt to punish an ambasador by endangering the ambassador's family AND the security of the Nation.
Novak is a treasonous bastard and should be jailed in Gitmo with the offender, who some say is Rove.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:54 PM
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14. Did Wilson actually get paid to go to Africa and investigate the claim? |
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I was under the impression that he didn't, but I don't know for sure.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:58 PM
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24. He got reimbersed for travel expenses, |
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:59 PM
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but was reimbursed for his travel expenses.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:01 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 09:11 PM by jimshoes
From his appearance on CSpan this morning.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:54 PM
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15. How low will they go? We haven't come close to hitting the bottom |
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of the smear campaign from Rove. He's not just defending Bush now, he's defending himself against going to prison! :evilgrin:
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:54 PM
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:52 PM
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42. That's what I thought, too. |
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Blame the victim. How typically FOX.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:56 PM
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19. I'll take it as an admission of guilt - considering the source |
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That was what Nofacts implied in his non-sequitur paragraph
" > Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an > Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior > administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to > Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its > counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to > contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told > me."
The Wash post only referred to "she is fair game" but this only makes it worse. The petty revenge theme is even more obvious.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:23 PM
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39. Wilson's diplomatic career started in Niger |
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... and he had experience with Iraq as well.
Might as well accuse * of nepotism for choosing Babs as First Lady ... and ... sending her to France? Oh, I forget, Paris is a horrid place - Wilson got to go to beautiful Niger ...
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:56 PM
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Looks like we are in for all out war. Maybe, just maybe, the elite Washington media will wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe, JUST maybe, they will see they have been backing up the TRUE corrupt administration and cut it out. We can always hope.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:57 PM
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This was not a job. He was paid nothing for going to Niger (except travel expenses). WTF are these people talking about? He went to Niger out of a sense of duty to country, something the slime that currently occupy the whitehouse would know nothing about.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:06 PM
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33. Didn't you hear? Niger is the hot new destination |
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It's taken over from St. Bart's. Everyone is clamoring for all-expense paid trips.
So why didn't the traitor Novak write about Wilson haven gotten the gig through unethical means, rahter than 'oh by the way, his wife is a CIA operative and here is her name'.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:14 PM
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37. He said he was paid nothing this morning on CSpan... |
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Glad I went through the long post :)
He mentioned he was paid nothing on American Journal this morning, which completely discredits this story...
pp23
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:57 PM
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22. So he investigated the claim and debunked it and he was right! |
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sounds like she picked the right man for the job. in 10 days he figured out the yellowcake story was bogus. pretty smart
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:57 PM
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23. Let the Smears begin... |
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:58 PM
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certified fools of themselves. Pass the popcorn.
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Mon Sep-29-03 08:59 PM
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27. Novak must be feeling VERY tense |
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Do you think he should have a electrocardiogram? I hear the guy who hooked up David Kelly is free....
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:09 PM
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Tue Sep-30-03 09:50 AM
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51. Mike Malloy suggested last night Novak may want |
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to sleep with one eye open and hire a food taster. His theory is the CIA will "do someting" to Mr. Novak.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:02 PM
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30. BUSH WH charges NEPOTISM? |
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Hmmmm...Cheney, McClellan, Rhenquist, *BUSH* are just reeeeeally COMMON names, right? ROFL.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:05 PM
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32. Easy there everyone!!! |
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I don't care for or trust faux anymore than the rest of you but this particular instance is not misreporting. Reread the critical sentence again here:
"Over the weekend, the story broke that Novak was one of a half dozen reporters called by two high-level White House officials who said Plame had abused her position to get her husband the Niger job."
Faux, at least in this story, is not saying Plame abused her position. They are reporting that the leakers claimed Plame had abused her position, and that is a fact. The admin officials were trying to discredit Wilson with that leak in that manner.
Thank God it backfired horribly for them.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:07 PM
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34. His BIOGRAPHY tells us otherwise. |
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He didn't need special favors from his wife. He had worked in both Niger AND Iraq and knew the people involved.
Let's look at Joe Wilson's qualifications to go there, shall we?
He was:
*Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council from June 1997 until July 1998.
*U.S. Ambassador to the Gabonese Republic and to the Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe from 1992 to 1995.
*Ambassador Wilson served in Baghdad, Iraq as Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy. During “Desert Shield” he was the acting Ambassador and was responsible for the negotiations that resulted in the release of several hundred American hostages. He was the last official American to meet with Saddam Hussein before the launching of “Desert Storm.”
*U.S. Diplomatic Service from 1976 until 1998. His early assignments included Niamey, Niger, 1976-1978; Lome, Togo, 1978-79; the State Department Bureau of African Affairs, 1979-1981; and Pretoria, South Africa, 1981-1982.
Before that he served in other African nations.
So when Novak put that snide, dangerous sentence in the column, it was not only stupid, but a MAJOR LIE. He wants to talk about nepotism and favors, let's get into Colin Powell's son at the FCC. Let's talk about the head of the FDA's brother being Bush's press secretary. Oh, that's right, they're Republicans. Who cares, right.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:11 PM
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36. So rather than reprimand Plame, they destroy her life's work. Good job! |
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Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 09:13 PM by 0rganism
Fox isn't helping them on this. She was doing her part to prevent Condi's magic mushrooms from blooming over DC, and now we're just that much less safe because of their bastardly leakage. Not even Fox can save them once people figure this out.
All the king's horses and all the kings men are covered in egg yolk right now. Smearing the unfortunate Mz. Plame will not save their collective arse.
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:16 PM
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38. later tonight, a story about |
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rape victims who "probably were asking for it" since they "seemed kinda flirty"
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Mon Sep-29-03 09:25 PM
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40. That can be proved. How does the WH know? |
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And even if true, so what.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:04 PM
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44. Wasn't it also Fox that said |
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that the black girl walked into Arnold's bodybuilding class and said "anybody up for a gangbang?" It's Fox for cris sake. They make it up as they go along.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:07 PM
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45. To "get" him "the Niger job"??? What's this supposed to be, |
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...a Caribbean cruise? Oh, yes, the Niger job--everybody wanted to go on an unpaid, expenses-coverd trip to exotic Niger! Fighting tooth and nail for it, in fact. But only Wilson got to go! Why? Cuz his wife had inside pull, that's why! So who can blame the poor White House for blowing an intelligence agent's cover and putting WMD investigations (actual ones, not Chalabi fantasies) at risk? They hadda do SOMETHING, or the bastid woulda got away with it. Imagine! An all-expense paid trip to Niger for ten whole days! Just think of how nice that would be! Who wouldn't think a little treason wasn't an appropriate response to some Dem getting to go on a nifty trip like that just cuz his wife had some inside pull.
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Mon Sep-29-03 10:19 PM
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47. So everybody knew it... |
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I didn't know it. The whole world didn't know it. I'm sure the the whole didn't know she was resposible for tracking Weapon of Mass Destruction...
But they sure do now!!!
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Mon Sep-29-03 11:45 PM
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49. You should of heard that fool Bob Grant on WOR in New York. |
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He actually said "she was no James Bond" so why is everyone getting so worked up.
The hypocrisy of these 'pubbies has no equal. So according to them dissent=treason, but compromising an operative in deep cover for the CIA by the White House is "no big deal"?
Just when I think they've hit a new low, they manage to sink even further!
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Tue Sep-30-03 07:59 AM
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50. You're missing this point, the power of the mighty GS 14! |
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They are claiming that a government employee that is maybe a GS-14 or 15 at most, can call the White House and get a "job" for her husband! DAMN. I know a lot of 14s and some 15s in Washignton! I'm gonna see if they can pressure the WH to get ME a diplomatic mission. Hell, even upaid except for expenses would be sweet. Humm, I sense WMD in Bermuda!
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