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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:05 PM
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"Why doesn't Cindy go to Hillary's or Kerry's home
to protest?"

Bill O'Lielly just asked that!!

What a moran.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:06 PM
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1. Why doesn't Cindy go to O'Reilly's home to protest
makes more sense.
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:10 PM
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12. Why hasn't Ohreally? go enlist?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:12 PM
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17. He's too busy
having sex with his interns.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:53 PM
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41. Why does a bear shit in the woods?!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:11 PM
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15. I would gladly
supply the eggs. Hee hee
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:06 PM
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2. Because *bush stole the election and he
has the title of President....thats why!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:07 PM
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3. Good answer. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:14 PM
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18. But, but
Hillary voted for the war. So did Kerry. And besides, Hillary is married to Bill and we all know this is his fault, right?
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:07 PM
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4. Bush lied to them too to get authorization to go into Iraq....
Kerry's been saying that since day one!
It gets ignored by the likes of O'Reilly.
emdee
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:07 PM
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5. I actually agree with him on that
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:11 PM by Gonnabuymeagun
Bush definitely deserves the majority of our scorn, but these two still cling to their Iraq war justifications as if they weren't aware that most of their own constituents are against the war.

Wake up guys!!!

On edit: and yes I know Bush lied, but they were stupid to believe him and they certainly haven't been very vocal about changing their minds or calling Bush out on it. I voted for Kerry and I think at heart he is a good man, but I think that protesting Kerry and Hillary and all the other (formerly?) pro-war Dems would send the message that we were right, we are right now and they better start listening.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:12 PM
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16. So you believe both would have chosen war even after weapons inspections
no differently than Bush? I would bet my house that neither would have invaded.

Why don't you blame Bush for not imlementing the IWR honestly, instead of blaming the IWR itself?

Your way really lets Bush off the hook whether you realize it or not.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:22 PM
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25. I DO blame him for implementing the Iraq war dishonestly
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:24 PM by Gonnabuymeagun
and I think he fooled a lot of people, but these are senators who should have had a better understanding of what was going on (after all *I* did). Certainly we should not be AS hard on our people as we are on Bush, but we've got to let them know that its NOT okay to follow the Republican party on their windmill tilts, and the only way they're going to understand is if we let them know.

They are enablers much more than *I* will ever be and when they take back their consent they do it half-heartedly with all kinds of qualifiers. I'm not letting Bush off the hook, but he and the GOP never could have achieved what they have without the apathy of the Democratic leadership.


On edit: I never said "don't protest Bush"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:51 AM
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57. The IWR would have PREVENTED war if administered honestly. It's ALL Bush's
fault, because even Lieberman wouldn't have invaded Iraq if weapons inspectors turned up nothing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:15 PM
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19. Sorry I disagree
bu$h is the commander in chief. He takes the blame, that is part of his job.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:24 PM
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28. Exactly
The buck stops with him. End of story. Same thing with any other president republican or democratic.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:30 PM
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31. Well he sure did start the war
but who gave him the votes. Proportionally the pro IWR voters are not as responsible as Bush, but they are somewhat responsible and need to be held to account.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:02 PM
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51. Barbara Boxer didn't believe him one bit. She knew it was bullshit. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:07 PM
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6. Well duh I wonder why moron
:eyes: Kerry and Clinton gave him authority but not to shoot himself in the foot.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:08 PM
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7. Because both would have implemented the IWR honestly and there would
have been NO invasion once the weapons inspectors were allowed to finish their job and reported that there were NO WMDs.


BUSH is responsible for lying this country into war. The IWR would have PREVENTED military action if an HONEST president was administering its guidelines.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:08 PM
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8. Their votes opened them up to this kind of thing
Most DUers fax blasted Kerry when the IWR vote was up and it did no good.

OhReally is a punk assed lying freakazoid, but every now and then he gets in a glancing blow, in spite of himself.

I would have no problem with Cindy asking Hillary why she wants to send more troops to Iraq Nam. No problem at all.

She needs to END THAT CRAP instantly, or I'm going green/third party along with another 30 percent of 2008 voters
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:22 PM
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24. THEY WERE LIED TO
Do you not understand that?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:27 PM
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30. ONLY IDIOTS BELIEVED BUSH
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:29 PM by Jacobin
Do you not understand that?

Were you on DU when the Iraq war crap started?

NO ONE believed his lies.

Neither did Hillary/Kerry. They were looking at poll numbers and wanted to be on the right side of the issue, and they fucked up big time.

Do you want a leader who you think was stupid enough to believe Bush? (assuming YOU believed him too?)

On edit, if you'll remember, over a HUNDRED congresscritters voted against the IWR resolution and they didn't believe Bush's transparent lies either
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:31 PM
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32. Well apparently nearly 100 Senators did
believe him. And why not? How many times in the past has a president lied to go to war? How many presidents took office with a long term goal of invading a particular country and spent years ahead of time manufacturing the evidence necessary to convince Congress to go along with him?

I'd love to know why you think NO ONE believed bu$h.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:39 PM
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34. But its Bush and it was obvious
and I was 20 at the time, how the hell did I figure it out? Am I that smart? No just a teeny bit observant and I gave him the benefit of the doubt almost up to the moment the war started.

I'm not suggesting we throw people who voted for the war out, but I don't think it would kill us (or them) to give them a little taste of what usually gets reserved for Bush, just so they understand to take us seriously.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. I disagree
and I am old enough to remember Nixon and the lies he told the country.

bu$h and his people pulled a huge fast one on this country.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:57 PM
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43. I don't blame the ordinary people so much
but our leaders should have known better - they didn't want to stick their necks out, but they were so scared to leave first base that they are only *just* easing into 2nd and will likely never get all the way home.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:45 PM
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37. I give up
Politicians do what politicians think will get them elected.

If you think they believed Bush, there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.

I find I have little in common with HIllary supporters anyway
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:51 PM
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40. I agree they pander to get elected
But not that they knew bu$h was lying about Iraq and the WMDs. The neocons spent years building up the evidence they though they would need. It was an orchestrated effort and so evil that it is still hard to believe.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:21 PM
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46. cooked intelligence
I distinctly remember Bush turning to Kerry during one of the presidential debates and saying "You saw the same intelligence I did"... knowing it was all bull, but Kerry didn't know that. Kerry believed the intelligence, cooked by Bushco.

I remember the little gleam in Bush's eye as he said it too.

Fact of the matter is, cherry-picked bullshit was used to justify an unjustifiable war, and that is Bush's responsibility.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:57 PM
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48. When did we ever think
we couldn't trust the CIA?

As much as I despise the man and everything he stands for, I have to hand it to him. He and his people did a brilliant job of pulling the wool over our eyes.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:09 PM
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Ya know, there's a good answer for that...
"BECAUSE HILLARY AND KERRY DIDN'T START THIS OCCUPATION WITH A TRUCKLOAD OF COOKED INTELLIGENCE, AND THEY SURE AS HELL CAN'T END IT AS MEMBERS OF THE MINORITY PARTY."

Even Bill OhReally could probably figure that much out, if you talked slowly and he let you finish.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:17 PM
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20. Good point
Some of us seem to forget that bu$h lied to persuade the Senate to vote to go to war.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Remember
those sixteen words in Bush's 2003 state of the union speech? A lot of his advisor's told him not to but he did it anyway.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:35 PM
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33. It's the unspeakable truth
Don't you dare mention it.

The Downing Street Minutes never existed.

Joe Wilson's CIA agent wife was never outed.

Colin Powell never yelled, "I won't read this bullshit," and threw papers in the air when reviewing his falsehood-packed Iraq-implication speech for the UN.

We will continue to proceed with the media spin as scheduled, pretending that none of these things happened.

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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:09 PM
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9. He really knows how to pander to the lowest common denominator...
He just loves dumbing it down to what he can understand.

He was soooo much better on Inside Edition. There he could be relevant.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:09 PM
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10. Why doesn't O'Lielly hang himself in the shower?
Dare to dream.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:10 PM
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11. Why doesn't Bill O'Lielly take a long walk off a short pier?
eom
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:11 PM
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13. did he say this on the factor tv show? or radio?
or guest on another show?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:19 PM
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21. Just now on his show
I turned it on to see Trippi, who was a guest. Normally, I don't watch it.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:11 PM
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14. O'Reilly is not very bright, is he? It's almost like he's better suited...
... to gossiping about Hollywood celebrities for a living.

:rofl:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:20 PM
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22. You have a point there.
He just broke for a commercial and will talk about Natalee when he returns :rofl:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:22 PM
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23. You mean the O'Lielly guy who called up a fellow employee
only to sexually harass her while sticking a vibrator up his ass? That one?

:evilgrin:
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:23 PM
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26. This is George's war, George's glory. He is taking the credit...out loud.
So...anymore questions from the O'Jerky guy?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:23 PM
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27. how about the president take some fucking responsibiLity?
i'm sicking of these fucking Lying cowards.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:41 PM
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35. If Hillary or Kerry was elected president in 2000, we wouldn't be in Iraq.
This was BushCo's thing. It was personal from the beginning.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. Sort of academic
seeing as how neither Kerry or Mrs. Clinton ran for president in 2000.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:16 PM
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45. Not the point...
If ANYONE but the a member of BushCo regime had been elected (Gore, McCain, etc.), we wouldn't be in Iraq.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:43 PM
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36. I can tell bo why!
Because bush is the fucking president(sic) and he's the one that the GOD DAMN BUCK STOPS AT!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:46 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:59 PM
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50. Don't tell me what
to say or how to say it.

I think you need to be "exposed".
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:28 PM
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52. Madness?
Madness is the key word in describing George W. Bush. He is a sadistic sociopath. He shows no remorse for his actions. His brain is so addled by alcohol and cocaine abuse that he cannot speak in complete sentences. His self-esteem is so non-existent that he must be surrounded by yes-men and yes-women or he cannot function. This maniac cannot tolerate one word of dissent or disagreement or he will throw an epic tantrum.

Hatred? Hatred is people who chant to grieving parents of dead soldiers "We don't care." What kind of hateful, spiteful person could say such a despicable thing. Their very souls reek.

Expose? That is what is happening in our country right now. The Downing Street Memo, the Plame Leak, the election fraud, gasoline prices, and the lies about Iraq (while the casualties climb
ever so horribly). This adminstration is being exposed for the evil entity that it really is.

One last thing. Show respect to my fellow DU'ers.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:43 PM
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55. Thank you, blue neen!
That was worth getting that scolding by a troll just to read your post in response..brilliant!
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:48 PM
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56. These trolls need an education, don't they?
:toast: :thumbsup:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:56 PM
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42. "They can't touch this" O'Reily hannity none of them matter any more
they can't put a dent in Cindy she's like...Gump??
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:28 PM
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47. The way I see it, either one of them would welcome Cindy,
and are sure to have a quality that * lacks:

empathy.

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:59 PM
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49. Easy answer!
Senators Clinton and Kerry didn't send Casey Sheehan to die in an unjust war, you bastard O'Reilly.

It was not the Clinton Administration, or the Kerry Administration, who on the eve of the Iraq war, gave our military leaders on the ground in Iraq a slide on post-war planning that said "To Be Provided."

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:40 PM
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53. Moran is too kind....dumbass isn't even close.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:41 PM
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54. Just another weak attempt at deflecting blame from Bush to anyone BUT
Bush
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:55 AM
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58. The answer is that they were lied to just like Cindy.
Bush and company did the lying.

That's why, falafel boy.

Who's next?

:D
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