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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:15 PM
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Caravan of "You Don't Speak For Me, Cindy!" going to Crawford WTF!
http://www.moveamericaforward.org/

<snip>
Move America Forward will be conducting the "You Don't Speak for Me, Cindy" caravan beginning next week. It will feature military family members who have loved ones serving in the war against terrorism in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The delegation will be led by Deborah Johns of Northern California Marine Moms. She will lead the caravan to Crawford, Texas where she and Move America Forward Chairman, Melanie Morgan, will lead a "WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS & THEIR MISSION" rally in Crawford on Saturday, August 27th, 2005.

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Deborah Johns of Northern California Marine Moms

What happened tonight with the mowing down of Arlington West was horrible, ugly...things are going to get even more heated with this group moving to Crawford by Saturday.
Stay safe and sane all you great people there with Cindy!

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:16 PM
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1. what mission is it that they support?
:shrug:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:18 PM
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3. The New "Lowered Expectations" Mission??
They must think the blood of their loved ones very cheap, that the fucked up situation GWB continues to create in Iraq is worth their death!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:18 PM
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6. BRING IT ON!!
Most Americans are FINALLY GETTING IT! Bring it on is what I say --
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:17 PM
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2. What a turd doll!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:09 AM
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43. If the braindead couldn't be brainwashed, Chimpy wouldn't...
...have any supporters, at all.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:18 PM
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4.  this all sounds very bad
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 11:20 PM by yorkiemommie1
these people are looking for a fight.

edited to say Cindy isn't claiming to speak for anyone but herself.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:18 PM
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5. she's smiling now
we'll see how they feel when their kids are killed.

like Lila Lipscomb .
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:41 PM
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35. Totally bizarre.
Help me to understand this. A mother who has sent her child into harm's way and who, I must assume, has not lived in a cave these past 3 years, is willing to put politics above her child's life?

What's her point? She wants her opportunity to become a Gold Star Mom for Bush? I cannot believe that she would work against her best self interests in fighting a cause that wants our soldiers out of a no-win death trap. This has got to be the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to naive people who will sacrifice their own children, just to prove a political point.

I wonder if she's been offered a deal to get her son out of the war zone if she'll support the pResident? That's how these pricks do it. They'll have someone else do their dirty work for them.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:19 PM
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7. Oh dang, I'm going to miss her.
pooh
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:20 PM
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8. Wonder what this jolly looking
mother of a live marine has to say about the truck mowing down the crosses with the dead soldiers on it?

Or is she just for show..does she have any thoughts?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:24 PM
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21. Is her son really in danger?
Inquiring minds need more details.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:33 PM
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24. What happened at Camp Casey?
I was out for the evening and looks like I missed what has been going on there.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:20 PM
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9. I found this site on FR
while looking to see if they had anything to say about the destruction at Camp Casey tonight. So far, they haven't a clue...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:24 PM
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Freepers: So far, they haven't a clue...
:rofl:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:36 PM
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28. Subtle humor always the best
:smoke:

A trolling Freeper reports here:
DUmmies claiming someone ran over crosses in Crawford

Posted on 08/15/2005 9:19:01 PM PDT by Chucky is a girlie man

Supposedly, Crawford police arrested guy in pickup truck.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464124/posts

Not only do they not have a clue, they are a frightening representation of the sickest of our society...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:20 PM
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10. Move America Forward isn't that a Nathan Sproul Front Group
Sproul the guy who: helped steal the election, threw away democratic
voter registrations, dirty tricks in many states, tossed out of south
Dakota, helped in the Ohio recount, got over $7,000,000.00 from Bush/
Cheney 04, and went to *'s xmas party .......

Move America Forward Spread the word.
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:21 PM
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11. I'm surprised it took rove this much time to organize something n/t.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:21 PM
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12. I bet
Not one left wing Journo will call her a slut.

Not one left wing Journo will bring up if she had a divorce.

Not one left wing Journo will question her motives.

The media wont go after her.

So why is it okay to go after Cindy, the way the right has?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:22 PM
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13. These moms still have their children.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:20 AM
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45. THAT is the point. They really have nothing to say.
Cindy has walked the long road behind her son's casket. These women can keep their faith in their tin god bushie if they choose but when their babies come back in a box THEN we will listen to their pain and sorrow but right now they have nothing to tell us that is important.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:22 PM
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14. Move America Forward, ha.
So a RW funded orchestrated attack has been launched against a lone mother who began a vigil to petition the president in regard to her fallen son.

Pathetic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:24 PM
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:22 PM
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15. I just sent this to their Yahoo group
Move America Forward



Is more like Split America Apart

How can this group claim to be "non-partisan" with posts blasting liberals? A bit contradictory, no?

I think you're making things worse by criticizing a woman in her time of grief. But, if you want to keep giving her more and more attention, go on with your radical and hurtful agenda.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:22 PM
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16. I don't think Cindy ever claimed she speaks for anyone but herself
Give it up Bushbots.. Cindy already has called checkmate.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:35 PM
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26. Cindy doesn't need to claim
it..bushbots just ram in with their own turkey clucking and mow down crosses with the names of dead soldiers on them.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:47 PM
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38. nope... but thousands of people around the country are saying...
she speaks for them
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:23 PM
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17. See how they squish together Iraq and Afghanistan?
That's what they WANT.

Let's not do that.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:23 PM
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18. Copy cat cowards for stupidity
HAHA - Cindy thought of it first and you are following OUR lead. Kiss our asses while you follow us cowards.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:39 PM
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33. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
You know what I mean, Vern? ;)
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:23 PM
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19. What happened to..
"I'm a uniter not a divider"...will civil war break out in Texas,hell bush's neighbor fired the 1st shot,no 2 shots then tonight another neighbor runs down symbolic crosses...these are christians or bullies.
bush wont meet Cindy because those Downing Street Memo's have come into play,any spontaneous answers could put that Crime Family in prison
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:24 PM
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20. Time to start a caravan of "you don't speak for us Move America Forward"
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:24 PM
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22. keep moving america forward & don't worry about that cliff in front of you
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:34 PM
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25. why do they have to go THERE?
doesn't make sense.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:36 PM
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29. Karl says jump.
Simpletons say how far.
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:35 PM
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27. They may be a rabid bunch....
<snip>The California Department of Justice building has become ground zero over a collection of artwork that critics have attacked for being ‘anti-American.’ The most controversial painting depicts the U.S. flag in the shape of the United States being flushed down a toilet.

Thursday night the debate was elevated to new heights as more than 600 hundred people gathered to both support and oppose the display titled “A Creative Merger: Artists & Lawyers”.

Law enforcement officers stood in between the two sides to keep the peace, with emotions running high at times......

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On hand to support Move America Forward’s efforts was Deborah Johns of Northern California Marine Moms. Johns filed a hate crime charge against the Stephen and Virginia Pearcy after they erected a display of a U.S. soldier hanged from a noose with an American flag crumpled into a helmet to represent the soldier’s head.

http://www.sacunion.com/pages/sacramento/articles/5726/


Sheehan and company need protection - I'm afraid for them. With each day, they'll get more and more rabid.
emdee
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:38 PM
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31. And, she supported pulling the Nightline naming the dead....
Dear Mr. Hyman:

I have a son who is a U.S. Marine, currently deployed to Fallujah, Iraq. I have three friends who have lost their sons in Iraq. One because of a vehicle roll-over and the other two in combat fire. Thank you for seeing the Nightline program for what it really is and pulling it off the stations. As a mother of a Marine, we are all dealing with a tremendous amount of stress, but then to have our loved ones demoralized on national tv cuts us all to the bone, more than you know. We are all military family because our hearts are bonded by the service of our loved ones. When one is injured, we are all injured, when one is killed, a piece inside of all of us dies. It hurts with every one whether or not we know them face to face. Our hearts know them and our families need to be supported, our Marines and troops need to be supported. All the same, not for individual reasons. Regardless of the reason, they are all heroes and should all be respected the same. Thank you once again.

Sincerely
Deborah Johns
Proud Marine Mom of
Lance Corporal William Johns
(2nd Deployment, Fallujah, Iraq)
Northern California

http://myarsefrommyelbow.net/index.cgi?page=debates/journals/journal_KerryFilm_TueOct_17 (about 1/2 way down the page)
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:49 PM
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39. This may not even be her....
but if it is - she's divorced!
Again, it may not be her, though....
http://www.kovr13.com/11nov00/110700a.htm

I thought it would be ironic if so.
emdee
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:39 AM
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47. Can't believe she'd think reading the names was "demoralizing"!
Is that woman a paid operative? Because that group is a corporate republican funded front for Rovians. Why does this woman suddenly become a spokesperson?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:37 PM
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30. Was the cross crunching truck guy an advance scout?
Same state of mind. That's for sure.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:38 PM
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32. KKKRove is trying to provoke something.
THAT is the goal. DON'T GIVE HIM THE SATISFACTION.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:39 PM
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34. It is a small victory that we have made them qualify their support for the
troops. Now they have to add "and their mission" because thanks to activism like Cindy's, everyone realizes it is possible to support the troops but oppose their mission.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:43 PM
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37. Sometimes the "small victories" are the most important of all...
Good call.

NGU.


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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:42 PM
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36. Took Rove this long to throw something together, eh?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:51 PM
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40. Rove is in big trouble. Cindy is a nuisance to him right now.
So he is trying to swat her out of the way with a big swatter. It won't work. I think we should start delving a bit into the Plame investigation and other pots that are boiling and not getting much attention.

Oh yes, and we should keep Cindy on top as well.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:02 AM
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41. I agree
Cindy won't be scared away, and as long as she stays, she wins. There is a lot of other stuff in need of attention, though. BTW, what happened to the Abu Ghraib photos? Wasn't there supposed to be a judicial decision today?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:02 AM
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42. Speaking of the Plame investigation....
While I completely support Cindy, and am trying to keep up with all that is happening at Camp Casey and the support elsewhere, seems the WH/Rove has gotten another wish in getting the Plame investigation out of the media spotlight.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:17 AM
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44. Doesn't matter.
I don't believe most of this is going to be in the limelight regardless of Cindy. There will be a breakout of sorts I believe, where the rest of us will become informed when the whole thing collapses.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:33 AM
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46. Cindy and the group down there are going to
have to remember MLK and his non-violent methods because any move they make that appears violent will be used by MSM and bushie/rovie to suggest that they are to blame for any incidents. Watch your backs friends. The RW does not play fair or clean. Sit down, lay down and let them carry you to the paddie wagon.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:41 AM
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48. Move America Forward *gag* is a strictly political group.
Weren't the bushies condemning Ms. Sheehan and claiming she was using her son for political purposes? She surely isn't, she is looking for some peace of mind with a face-to-face interview with the man responsible for her son's death.

Ms. Johns, on the other hand, is seeking the limelight, being buoyed along by a political machine with a well-known agenda.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:57 AM
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49. Well said, Straight Shooter!
thanks
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:15 AM
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50. Families of soldiers don't always get the outside opinion when their
loved ones are at war serving in a military they volunteered to be in. I know. My dad went to Nam for 3 tours of duty all before I was 13. There were anti-war protests all over by the time he was there in 1970-71. I certainly wasn't telling people where he was either. I kept it to myself.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:52 PM
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51. KICK for the daytime crowd
eom
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:26 PM
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52. .
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:31 PM
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53. is her son dead?
that's all I want to know.
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