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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:25 PM
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Corporate values should not be American values. Freepers take note.
This is how business has corrupted our national moral character.

For those of us who were raised to be hard working, honest and to treat our fellow human being as we would wish to be treated ourselves, our first day on the job usually is one of cultural shock. We are taught to be good citizens and patriots who are loyal to their country, yet on the job we are expected to show uncompromising loyalty to the company above any other loyalty we may have.

For me, the cultural shock came on my first day. I was sitting at my new job as a receptionist in the corporate headquarters of a large and powerful bank. As I was learning how to field and direct calls, a call came in for one of the Senior Vice Presidents. I properly asked who was calling and asked them to state their business. When I buzzed Mr. ****. He immediately said. Tell him I’ve left the building.

“You want me to lie?” I blurted.

“Yes, this is a business, not Sunday school,” he replied. “Take a message and I’ll call him later.”

I know this is done all the time, however, fresh out of convent school and broken of a fibbing habit myself by the sisters with many hours of penance, I felt I had stepped into a moral abyss. Actually, I was right. Following the lies, were a laundry list of “sins” over the years.

Overcharging for goods that could be cheaper was fine if the customer didn’t object to it. Billing for services not performed because you could get away with it. Legal ways of creative bookkeeping to make a company look more robust to the stockholders were used.

Casting couch promotion of women in business; rounding off the billing in favor of the company; contracts with fine print and legalese; bait and switch promotions; promises to employees that changed at the whim of the Board of Directors all were in a day’s work. Firing an employee for trumped up charges often happened instead of laying him off so that he could collect unemployment.

Within a week, I learned that I was a different moral person on the job than I was when not at work. I found I spent my time at work trying not to get fired, trying to get a pay raise and trying to get a promotion, not necessarily in that order. When my workday was over, I could go home and change back into the nice person I really wanted to be. I couldn’t do that on the job. There were the demands of the company for what I did on the one hand and watching my back from the backstabbing office politics on the other. I often wondered that I got any real work done at all.

Yet, most of us still knew what was right and what was wrong. I supposed economic necessity caused us to compartmentalize those two opposing forces in our lives. Yet, we could still distinguish that the business model was not the one we wanted to pass on to our children.

However, it seems that now the business model is how most Americans live their lives. This is the principles of laissez faire economics, Darwin socialism and fascist politics. It’s a philosophy of winner take all and the rest are left behind to struggle the best they can. It now has become the national morality off the job as well. This is not what America was founded on.

Now we find that if we aren’t in lockstep with the present powers in charge we are somehow unAmerican and disloyal. Questioning authority is not allowed. Cindy Sheehan demanding a meeting with the person who caused the unecessary death of her son is somehow considered a publicity seeking slut because she dares question that authority. (On the other hand, Paula Jones was for some reason, not considered a publicity seeking slut because she was in step with and loyal to the “company”.)

When a memorial exhibit was placed outside the President’s Western White House (their identification, not mine), it was considered disrespectful of the authorities, the “company”, so some misguided gob drives over them with his pick-up truck because he seems to no longer know be able to distinguish what right and wrong is. His loyalty is to the “company” not to basic human moral principles. Whatever the company tells him is what is right.

Now that the company has merged with religion, the other corporate entities, in the business of selling salvation and the afterlife, you can’t accept anything as the truth, unless it’s in the Bible as interpreted by the lastest annointed of God. I mean we really can’t trust what Jesus said unless they dissect it for us and tell us what he really meant.

We no longer have a national moral character. Even as recent as fifty years ago, in most places of the USA, a man’s handshake was his word, not to be broken. He knew he had an obligation to help those who were struggling to help themselves. Infringing on another’s rights and property was considered taboo. Now look at where we are.

If we don’t start taking back our ethics and true moral values, we will lose everything. The company then will own us lock, stock and soul.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:26 PM
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1. “Yes, this is a business, not Sunday school,”
Wow, what an asshole thing to day!!! Grrrr....
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:29 PM
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2. Kicked and nominated
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 02:31 PM by Armstead
That's a central disconnect I always feel between so-called "family values" people who supposedly support positive traditional values and religious principles while supporting a system of economic values that is based on immorality.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:43 PM
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3. Thanks Armstead.n/t
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:29 PM
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11. You're welcome
:kick:
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:47 PM
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4. A documentary you (and everyone else) should see ...
"The Corporation", by Mark Achbar, Jennifer Abbott, and Joel Bakan. Mr. Bakan also has a book of the same name, which can be found at most online bookstores.

You've realized something that I believe most people in "developed countries" have yet to - that corporate values has abducted and exploited our culture, and now is in the process of abducting and exploiting our identities and morality. It sounds dramatic, but it's being done in the most undramatic and under-the-radar way, over time. The corporation is the dominant form of power in our time, and because of this, people are subtly encouraged to identify with it on a deep level. Because of this, and as you pointed out, work no longer stops with work, it extends into every relationship.

The only antidote to corporatism - the heresy of individualism.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:51 PM
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5. Not only that, but most of us have been bombarded with
commercialism all our lives, in TV and radio commercials and print ads. They really can make us believe anything, if we don't pull back and think about it.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:06 PM
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6. Thanks.
If you're unwilling to do the non-Sunday school type business activities, then one is outcast from their business world. Ultimately, if one holds to this principal of unwillingness to lie with firm determination, then unless one is very lucky, one will end up trolling in some area for a handout, a meal, and probably looking in bushes for a place to sleep.

If one ends up in that situation and one can avoid jail, one must be a druggie and/or alcoholic in need of salvation, they say, so let the helpers and charitable mobilize to find them a job.

Want to keep your job? Do whatever the boss tells you to do, no matter what you've been taught.

What a vicious circle of lies by liars.

How can people even conceive that we have free will when confronted with such a system? The whole game is designed to remove any individual will we may have.

Hope to be one of the lucky ones, perhaps then the individual will be allowed to survive a little longer. Unlucky? Prepare to be assimilated.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:12 PM
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7. Corporations have no values besides making money
They are amoral entities built only to make profit. It's required by law. It's insane to not have them well regualated, because they run amok by design.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:41 PM
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8. This is the way of capitalism, but now that
they are becoming less and less regulated and they are turning more to getting money from the government with various little tricks Congress has legislated for them, in place of true competition.

Two laws I would like to see.

No company like WalMart should be able to stock more than 40% of it's merchandise from foreign countries, meaning that 60% should be domestically made.

No American company can have a P. O. Box in Bermuda or elsewhere as their corporate headquarters to avoid taxes if they want to do most of their business in the USA.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:04 PM
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9. Another DUer feels that if we impeach Bush and Cheney, more
would come to take their place. I think if we cut down the corporate authority figures and expose them for the corrupt globalists that they are, it will destroy the faith these kool-aid drinkers had in their leaders and maybe we can start fresh, with better character building principles to start to implement as the new American ethics, which actually will be more what Americans really were before they were lied to.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 05:12 PM
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10. Great point Cleita***
You are spot on.
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Draill Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:05 AM
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12. Wonderful post!
The compartmentalization you speak of was making me crazy and ill when I worked for a corporation. I am now unemployed, I could not take it. Thankfully my b/f has a job with a very small company and doesn't have as much of that sort of thing going on. Now we can only pray that his company isn't put out of business by the cost of fuel.

Your post gets right to the heart of the problem with our society today, imo. Thanks.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:32 AM
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14. Values, values,values
The lack of them in the economic sphere today is something that -- if the world were at all logical -- fundamentalist conservatives and liberals would agree on.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:30 AM
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13. And the mantra for this crap is "it's just business"
Company caused your cancer and doesn't provide health care: Just business.

Stock holders get a big dividend, but thousands laid off: Just business.

Fired you right after you had a child: Sorry. Just business.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:32 AM
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15. Ha - I wonder if we work for the same bank!
I have been at this bank for 15 years.

It has gone from doing everything you can for the customer to
selling the customer every possible service you can.

From, the employees are what makes this company great, train them, wine and dine them, let them enjoy our profits - to -
you're lucky if you get a 10 cent raise every 2 years because whatever you do it's never enough. And if you want to learn something, then read it on your own time because I'm not going to pay you to be trained.

I'm trying to smile in the corporate world, but it's getting harder and harder everyday. My daily inner conflict? Benefits + 4 wks paid vacation vs. my morals?????!
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:43 AM
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16. Thanks, Cleita
We all need to stop and examine what kind of bad habits we've picked up over the years or been forced into by our jobs. It is important to know where you think the line should be drawn between right and wrong, and stick to it.

We don't realize how powerful a message we send to others when we refuse to be forced to do something we believe is wrong. Even those who laugh at us in public are no doubt impressed (and even envious) that we have the courage to public ally refuse to do things that are wrong.

I especially agree with you that corporations, and by extension, pure capitalism, is often at war with moral values. Remember that in a capitalistic society only winners survive. Losers go out of business. When a company is faced with losing, morality is often the first casualty (if there were any to begin with, that is!).

Your post really struck a chord with me today. :pals:
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:53 AM
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17. Well said!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:55 AM
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18. I owe my soul to the company store...
Thanks Cleita...
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:57 PM
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19. Coolidge was wrong
It shouldn't be that the business of america is business.
The PROBLEM with America is business.
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inchhigh Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:27 PM
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20. Corporate values should not be American values
YES YES YES. This should be the mantra of the democratic party.

It is WE THE PEOPLE not We the Shareholders.

This is where the Dems can tap into some very deep resentment. We've been suckered into thinking that corporations do everything better and too many of us actually believe that. Even with Enron and WorldCom and Tyco and Adelphia and AOL and Arthur Anderson and Global Crossing and Peregrine Systems and Bristol Myers and Cendant and Computer Associates and Duke Energy and El Paso Energy and Reliant Energy and KPMG and Xerox and Rite Aid and Sunbeam and Vivendi and Waste Management and the S&L bailout.

Even after all of that people still think that corporations are better than Government.

It Just ain't so.

And deep down inside most of us KNOW that.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:44 PM
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21. Amen...
There are a lot of reasons in your post that explain why I got the hell out of Big Pharma.
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