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Tue Sep-30-03 10:44 AM
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Sen. Schumer on floor now re: leak C-Span2 11:43 ET |
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You could hear a pin drop when he started on the subject....
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:45 AM
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1. Bringing up an article from truth out |
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:45 AM
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2. He just mentioned TruthOut! |
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Woohoo! he is adding the article to the record.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:22 AM
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44. i KNEW wills article would be hard to ignore! |
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great work will :toast:
peace
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:46 AM
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Ten-years in prison
Done for spite
Yellowcake docs forged
Nasty. Like kneecapping
John Dean---referred to Truthout.org!
Nixonian-deadly serious
Consent to add John Dean article to record
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:48 AM
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Schumer: So many outraged
Not an "ordinary leak"
Jeapordized lives
Firing leaker isn't enough
Sweeping under rug
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:50 AM
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5. Reid - Stuck on morning session to avoid |
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debating the leak stuff?? Oh boy!
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:50 AM
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Crime was committed--who did it?
What fear does majority have to not discuss?
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:51 AM
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7. "It makes one wonder...." |
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"What are they worried about? Why WON'T they get to the bottom of this?"
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:20 AM
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42. CIA agent was tracking movement of WMD |
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Why would you want to aid terrorists by removing the hub that was tracking the movement of WMD(precursors etc) around the world?
OR maybe you do not want anyone to see the movement of WMD from point A to point B?
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:51 AM
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:52 AM
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President's hallmark is commitment to troops
C-I-C what are they worried about
Very likely serious crime
Reading quote from Poppy Bush re: exposing agents = traitors
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:53 AM
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10. Dem senator Reid from Nevada |
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"The senator is saying that you can't offer your ammendment?"
Apparently Schumer is trying to offer an ammendment and the Repukes are not letting him because of some parliamentary procedure...
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:54 AM
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11. Boxer on nowRemembers articles from July (by Novak) |
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oh lordy
Why would someone do this?
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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12. Barbara Boxer from Cali |
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Why would someone do this?
Clearly the idea behind attacking Wilson's wife because he gave the WH info they didn't want to hear...
Kill the messenger type of response...
It's about arrogance and intimidation.
It's the intimidation I want you to comment on...
NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS IF YOU CROSS US... WE'LL GO AFTER YOUR WIFE, YOUR KIDS
It's the lowest form of politics to go after your wife, your kids.
Comment on the whole struggle women are having to advance our career...
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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Boxer is laying it out now....
something like : this is a clear message from the WH "Don't Cross Us!"
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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14. Boxer talking about the intimidation factor |
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:57 AM
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Thanks Schumer for picking up issue
Can't believe someone in WH would reveal identity, can't be happening
Question: Why would someone do this?
Wilson gave WH bad news (Niger) - kill the messenger, outed his wife
About arrogance and intimidation
Not about just one instance
We'll go after your family, kids
Lowest form of politics
Women struggling to advance careers, going into unusual fields, very few female FBI agents, Wilson's wife doing her work, climbing ladder, now future totally destryoed or harmed
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:58 AM
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16. Someone please post link to Dean article... |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:05 AM by Flubadubya
Have searched Truthout but cannot find it. Has anyone seen it? Thanks. Link has been found... not at Truthout, rather at Findlaw: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030815.html
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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They did not give the URL |
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I think it was about the tactics of the WH by Dean, not sure how long ago it was written. Would it be the findlaw article?
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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17. Schumer - Intimidation frays democracy |
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Shuts down commuication of ideas Kneecapping
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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18. Schumer commenting on intimidation |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:00 AM by Tatiana
We believe in the competition of ideas...free speech, free enterprise...
When you no longer have that, when people are afraid to say what they think because they'll be hit below the belt you have the beginnings of the fraying of a democracy.
This administration seems to have a peculiar intention (attention) to do this.
In addition there is an impuning of motive an impuding of character.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:06 AM
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25. Schumer has been reading DU? |
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because that's what's been written here since I can recall. It's nice to see the rest of the world catching up to DU. 'Course they are still six months behind.
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Tue Sep-30-03 10:59 AM
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back to intimidation
founding fathers structured debate, competition of ideas, free enterprise, religion, democracy. When ppl are afraid democracy frayed
admin has peculiar penchant for intimidation
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:58 AM
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49. WOW!!! Collectively they are starting to stand |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 11:58 AM by ignatius
up the bully tactics of this administration.
United we stand, divided we fall.(or in this case get set up or killed)
Go dems, we have been waiting for this for 2 1/2 long ass years!!!
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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Said something like Reagan would say straight out why he didn't like a program like Head Start; Bush would say he liked it and then cut funding.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:03 AM
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21. The buttons are being pushed |
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Why are the Republicans being silence? "Tis almost funny at this point.
The story will soon be at superheat level.
The senate floor is on c-span and 'tis getting good.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:04 AM
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22. Schumer is one of the brightest stars |
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in a sometimes dim senate.
Give em hell Chuck
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:04 AM
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23. Sen Tom Harkin from Iowa |
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"You know a single allegation can be most worth of a federal prosecutor, it can be a single fact that can be most worthy of a special prosecutor."
Senator Ashcroft on CNN
Oct. 4th, 1997
This is more than a single allegation...
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:05 AM
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Sponsors amendment asking for SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
Quoting Ashcroft - single allegation worthy of spec pros (from 1997)
Access to classified info, leak, important enough that all senators should support
Amazed that not everyone supports this
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:06 AM
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I would think everyone would want to get to the bottom of this. Is it true that morning business has been extended so that the ammendment that we have offered (Harkin and Schumer) will not even be allowed to be offered?
HA HA HA HA HA...this is delicious!
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:09 AM
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27. Harkin quoting The Note on ABC |
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:09 AM
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28. If the Repubs do not wish to go along with the Special Prosecutor... |
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Then the Dems will have no choice but to keep this front and center in the political arena each and every day until they do so....
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:26 AM
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45. Thanks all for heads up and info |
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I was able to catch some of Schumer and a few questions/comments from Nelson of Fla.
Looks like things are just getting started with Wilson-gate. Think Rove is a busy man these days? ;-)
Julie
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:10 AM
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We know that a law has been broken...punishable by ten years
Refering to ABC News Note
President could resolve this by 4:00 this afternoon if he wanted
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:10 AM
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30. "We know that a law has been broken" (Harkin) |
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so a crime has been broken, I ask the Senator...it's the Senator's judgment this can be brought to the forefront rapidly
ABC News 'The Note'... "Has the president had everyone in the WH sign a document saying they have not leaked the information?" This could be over by 4:00
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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32. The GOP Senators are off with Cheney |
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No GOPers in the Chamber - that have shut down the senate to discourage debate on the Leak matter.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:16 AM
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39. CHENEY ? Oh cripes ... |
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You can bet they're plotting whose going to take the fall for this or how they're going to help Georgie weasel out from under it !!
:hippie:
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:12 AM
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33. Trying to time them out now |
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30 minutes is up
NOT JUST SOME LITTLE REAL ESTATE DEAL - Harkin
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:13 AM
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34. "What happens to our War on Terrorism?" |
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ha ha ha ha Harkin bringing it home...
What will happen to our other agents?
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:14 AM
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35. "Anger among CIA agents is red-hot as I understand it" |
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Schumer speaking. CIA is livid.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:14 AM
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Intelligence services are LIVID
Anger among agents RED HOT
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:15 AM
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. . only 14 or 15 senators are behind the resolution to have an independent investigation?
Why would the other dem senators oppose this?
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:30 AM
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46. guess the other 85 or so senators don't care about national security, |
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or weapons of mass destruction falling into terrorist hands.
So much for the reasons for the jimmied up war.
Just like our troops NOT securing nuclear facilities in Iraq (but they did secure the oil fields) - lots of materials - there for the looting - there to be sold to... terrorists.
My guess is they are being fed by their pathetic strategists: it was just a leak (not imp) and that the american public is tired of investigations and partisanship, you will alienate voters if you push this thing too hard.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:51 AM
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. but I've been here at DU for a couple of years now and I've got a little over 800 posts. I check in at least 2 or 3 times a day most days.
How in the hell does someone accumulate over 17,000 posts. That's committment. Way to go.
:toast:
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:15 AM
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a crime that jeopardizes the secuirty of the US
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:17 AM
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40. My senator is on now! |
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Bill Nelson - FL - not politics - a crime of most serious nature -jeopardizes security of US - lives of people. Let cops investigate bring person in front of tribunals.
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:31 AM
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47. THERE is the ticket... Jeopardizes ALL of our security. |
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By the way, props to Will for pushing the WHAT WAS COMPROMISED angle. It is now in the congressional record!
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:17 AM
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Crime jeopardized natl security
Dealing with lives of people
Mike Spann (CIA) first killed in Afghanistan
Sad that political influence determines outcome
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Tue Sep-30-03 11:21 AM
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Our obligation to service is to get to the bottom of it
Nelson: When I was in Islamabad, some guy he used to know he ran into, turns out he was old CIA agent brought back
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Tue Sep-30-03 12:26 PM
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50. Kick to the top for Schumer. for the afternoon bunch |
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and because it feels so good to have dems kicking ass again!!!
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