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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:11 AM
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Frank Luntz has advice for Cindy Sheehan
I think the measure of Sheehan's "impact" is the fact that Luntz and Hoagland and the rest are all kibitzing on strategy for the antiwar movement.

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-vigils0817.artaug17,0,800430.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics

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"If she had been less personal toward the president and less vitriolic," said GOP strategist Frank Luntz, "it would have had more impact."

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:13 AM
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1. He wishes....
Frank is out earning his money. It is the personal quality of this that is compelling. The personal stake that many American families have in this war and *'s apparent lack of a personal stake or personal feelings.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:13 AM
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2. Perhaps Mr. Putz, er, Luntz misjudges "impact"
Cindy seems to be doing just fine in the impact dept.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:15 AM
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3. I agree.
Cindy has handled this beautifully. She doesn't need any "help" from a Republican strategist.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:19 AM
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5. Oh, he would love to "help" her...
... help make her look like a crazed, spittle-spewing harpy.
It's a pleasure to disappoint you, Luntz, you asshole.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:17 AM
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4. Luntz got it backward
One of the reasons Cindy did get so much exposure at first was BECAUSE she was so personal about it and vitriolic. She's teaching all our Democratic leaders a lesson in spineology, not that they'll ever learn anything.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:04 AM
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18. Exactly. It has always been personal, not political.
And when the right-wingers accuse Cindy of being politically motivated, they conveniently ignore the fact that she has also been critical of the Dems when it comes to their stance on the war. Here's a link to an earlier post with some quotes from Cindy regarding the Dems:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4386483&mesg_id=4386483
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:21 AM
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6. I love it
when Republicans tell us how to oppose them. Cracks me up.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:22 AM
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7. Well one thing Luntz knows and it is brush
"If she had been less personal toward the president." You can't make losing a son or child personal to brush. To brush it's just another dead body over which he has to climb to gain power and money. Can't make it personal, keep it business. Brush can understand business but this personal stuff about losing a child....jeez, can't have that.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:24 AM
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9. I thought you were referring to Frank's "hair"
:-)
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:05 AM
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19. Funny, made me laugh. But no I can't bear spelling his name out
and I have trouble finding the "*" key, old age you know. So misspelling it makes me feel good.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:24 AM
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8. If Cindy had been (in the words of Frank Luntz)
"less personal toward the president and less vitriolic", then her words and deeds would not have been as powerful.

The thing is, Cindy Sheehan calls things as she sees them and the RWers can't tolerate anyone speaking the truth and criticizing their Boy King. Is Cindy angry and hostile? Damn straight she is, and she has every right to be. I hope she never, ever backs down from any of the people dumping on her now.

Try as they might, there's no way the wingnuts can spin this one their way.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:24 AM
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10. Whatever he says, Cindy.... do the OPPOSITE!
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:26 AM
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11. Dude, what "more" impact does she needed? EVERYONE in MSM is talking about
her.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:31 AM
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12. Tell these twerps to search 'Bush' on Yahoo News photos
and all you get is pages of Cindy and a few old pics of W. Guess whose winning?

http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=vigil&ei=UTF-8&pstart=1&c=images&b=1

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:36 AM
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13. Frank Klutz is just a glorified freeper drone.
The great Wailing and gnashing of teeth gets louder by the day!

The truth is the most potent weapon America has against neocon tyranny.

May You Burn in the Hell that you had a hand in creating Frank! The division that Frank and his fellow enablers create and feed on now, will come back and bite them on the ass soon.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:45 AM
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15. Frankly Frank....
Cindy don't give a damn WHAT YOU THINK! She "DON'T CARE" about your ignorant ideas and your blather.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:37 AM
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14. Frank Luntz doing his imitation of a freeper troll by offering "advice"...

...well, no thanks, "Frank."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:49 AM
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17. he'll need a seperate tombstone for his rug.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 08:45 AM
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16. Now that Kkkarl's an embarrassment, they scramble to suck Shrub's ass!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:09 AM
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20.  and if bush* wasn't hell bent on going into Iraq her son would be alive
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:10 AM
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21. Frank Luntz is a turd of the BFEE.
Advice for you, Luntz: STFU.
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