We told ESPN Rush is a racist, now they found out the hard way

[59millionmorons]

Limbaugh's idea of commentary Sunday involved an absurd attack on Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb and on "the media" that have overrated him because "the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There's interest in black quarterbacks and coaches doing well." McNabb, Limbaugh said, isn't "as good as everyone says he has been."

[Brucey]

1. He cannot keep his feet out of his big mouth.

What in hell is wrong with the NFL, hiring this jerk?

[RummyTheDummy]

26. The NFL didn't hire him, ESPN did.

They are not one in the same.

[Garage Queen]

2. An "interest in black quarterbacks and coaches doing well"?

Funny, I thought the NFL was more interested in simply getting more black coaches INTO the game! As in: diversification?

But, what do I know, I'm just a girl.... :7

[VermontDem2004]

6. I don't agree with the system to get more black coaches in the NFL

though, it requires owners to interview Black candidates when they may already have a coach in mind, ex. Matt Millen was going to pick Mariucci right away. I mean owners are just going to interview black coaches to just to get it over with so they can get someone like Parcells, Mariucci, or whoever.

[tishaLA]

44. If the owners don't like it

they didn't have to start it. It was THEIR idea, for pete's sake. Besides, everyone knows that the NFL is a closed universe where even the most mediocre coaches go through endless recycling. If the more open interview process gets even ONE African American head coaching job, in a league with many African Americna players and only a couple African American coaches, it is worth it.

[cjbuchanan]

3. Rush needs to get sacked

Didn't Jimmie "the Greek" get sacked for something like this?

[shirlden]

4. Want to start a pool

on how long he lasts on ESPN ? I give him about two more weeks. He just can not control his racist mouth.

[IrateCitizen]

8. Aside from his obvious racism, he just plain SUCKS!

I mean, my dog could provide more insightful commentary than he does. And you can just see him twist and squirm when he has to wait his turn to offer up his inane opinion.

I'm hoping he doesn't last the season just based on his lack of talent alone. To tell the truth, I don't think it hurts us one bit for him to be in a setting where he's not surrounded by "dittoheads" and will repeatedly slip up like this.

Maybe we can get lucky and Tom Jackson will get medival on his ass.... :evilgrin:

[dkamin]

15. Rush

i was boycotting espn's shows, but saw this last weekend's pregame show because i was over at a friend's.

rush is terrible. his comments are stupid, he gets ignored, and he has no credibility. his "liberal media" schtick sounds stupid when someone actually challenges it. there was one comment he made where the jocks just laughed at him and then ignored it.

by the way, is it just me, or has rush a) had botox injections (his forehead seems immovable), and b) a liposuction?

[Hawkeye-X]

27. As long as he doesn't show up in my only ESPN viewing schedule

which is vs on Week 16 (December 21st, 2003)

[Drifter]

40. If they have not fired him yet ...

he will not be fired.

I read somewhere that ESPN (or perhaps a game) viewership is up %10 overall and %25 for 18-25 yo. You don't throw away the guy that brings you cash.

I was very dissappointed to hear that their rating went up. I really expected to see a big drop on the Pig Man alone.

I no longer watch or click anything ESPN. I may have to write them again.

The only people that can get rid of the Pig Man is the advertisers, and since viewership is up, don't hold your breath.

Cheers
Drifter

[Uzybone]

45. ESPNs ratings are up

becasue all pro football ratings are up. The NFL is a big fat cash cow. Thier ratings going up has nothing to do with Limbaugh.

[59millionmorons]

5. Need address

Anybody have ESPN'S email address? They may need some email.

[LynneSin]

17. Contact them here

http://msn.espn.go.com/sitetools/s/contact/espntv.html

[IrateCitizen]

25. Done. Thanks, Lynne.

I basically told them that not only did he not bring anything as an analyst (if I wanted a fan's perspective, I'd talk to my friends), but that his racism was reason enough to let him go (if I wanted to listen to hate-speech, I'd listen to his radio show).

I also told them I would not be tuning in for the rest of the season, as long as he is there.

[VermontDem2004]

7. I didn't know he said that

I watched NFL Countdown Yesturday, that comment is uncalled for, he is an idiot, he keeps getting stumped in debates with the former athletes it is so laughable, the former athletes sound smart, artiqulette(if that is how you spell it) while Rush sounded like Tom Arnold.

[diplomats]

9. Read this article in today's Phila. Daily News

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6894891.htm

[VermontDem2004]

11. Well Rush's comments were bullshit

I am no fan of the Eagles but I am a fan of McNabb, he threw for over 60% and two touchdowns with a fractured ankle against the Cardinals last year, I have alot of respect for him because of that. His stats are great, he never had a year where he threw for more Int's then Touchdowns and one year he was a runner up to MVP, McNabb was always a good QB.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?statsId=4650

[diplomats]

13. I am an Eagles fan

And this proves why ESPN never should've hired him in the first place.

[VermontDem2004]

18. You should see this

clip

Jackson then interjected that "somebody went to those championship games, somebody went to those Pro Bowls, somebody made those plays that I saw, running down the field, doing it with his legs, doing it with his arm. He has been a very effective quarterback for this football team over the last 2 or 3 years."

Limbaugh replied that McNabb benefited from a strong defense.

"I think he got a lot of credit for the defensive side of the ball winning games for this team," Limbaugh said - a much less controversial assertion, and one that probably contains at least a grain of truth.

Eagles coach Andy Reid said last night that he did not want to respond to Limbaugh's comments, but "I trust Donovan's talents and his contributions to Philadelphia."

Former Eagles receiver and current radio analyst Mike Quick, speaking last night on Comcast SportsNet's "Daily News Live," said: "When 'Jimmy the Greek' had his comments that got him ousted, I think this comment is even worse than that. I think we've progressed...Rush Limbaugh is a right-wing bigot who shouldn't even be doing football."

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/6894896.htm

Jackson responded to when he made that comment that McNabb was getting more credit then he deserved because he was black.

[IggleDoer]

19. Not only was he a racist but he was wrong on the prediction

The Eagles won and McNabb had a good day

[foo_bar]

10. the Jackie Robinson expressway

Goes through Brooklyn, mainly the black neighborhoods (duh). But his footnote as an athlete was losing the most World Series to the Yankees, which makes the road metaphorically correct but held to lower standards than Jesse Owen.

[rocktivity]

12. You'll find more comments on his comments and a way to email ESPN

at this thread.

From http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/6894891.htm
(Limbaugh said)..."I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well; I think there is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team..."


rocknation

[IggleDoer]

21. "The defense carries this team"

Same could be said for Tampa Bay. And they have a WHITE quarterback!

[nolabels]

30. I think I am going to put a Jackson on the Colts for monday night

The Colts with Dungy looks like a :thumbsup:

[Karenina]

24. Does anyone on this thread grok the DEPTH of the insult?

My personal experience as a black female classical musician aside, I was a cheerleader for my Varsity H.S. team and can tell you honestly that the NFL is the only thing I miss as an expatriot. (That is other than avocados, oranges and pomegranates from the trees in backyard L.A.)
Steve Tannen (NY JETS, Sunday "church" in NYC after he was injured and thrown out like dead meat) and Coach Madden (say what you want about him, HE KNOWS the game) taught me all the fine points. I had to deep six female friends who would dare call me at 3:30 on Sunday and protest, "Is that game more important?" J'ein... can you call back in a half hour, please?

A "black" quarterback??? Can he read music??? And even after throwing TD's with a fracture, he's "overrated??? Mein Gott, what has become of America??? The pain I experience just reading this is OVERWHELMING. What the hell has cystbutt ever done in life besides being a hate spewing white blowhard??? :puke: :puke: :puke:

[calimary]

49. Karenina - you're a "Stranger in a Strange Land" fan?

Dahlink! Sublime word choice! I, too, appreciate the word "grok." I use it myself sometimes.

[Bucky__Badger]

14. ESPN said Rush would provide the "fan's perspective" when they hired him

... problem is, the common fan is not necessarily a racist rightwing gasbag.

Rush has taken almost no time at all to use this forum to spew forth his thinly veiled right-wing hate.

Hey- here's an idea. Give Rush 30 minutes to say whatever he wants on the air regarding sports. Anything goes. Then, Warren Sapp gets one clean shot at Rush with a fifteen yard running start. Of course, Sapp gets to hear whatever Rush says before providing his "rebuttal."


That's called a compound fracture, Rush. Old school, baby.

[Desperadoe]

16. McNabb disregards Rush's idiocy

THE WORLD MUST look a whole lot different, when you have your head firmly lodged in your hindquarters.

That's the only explanation I can figure for Rush Limbaugh's ugly insinuations during Sunday's pregame show on ESPN, when Limbaugh blithely smeared the accomplishments of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, suggesting that McNabb gets more credit than he deserves because he is black.

I have to believe that to McNabb and his family, the world always has seemed pretty much the opposite of what Limbaugh outlined. When they moved to mostly white Dolton, Ill., from the South Side of Chicago, for example, and their house was vandalized while they were getting ready to move in, the McNabbs probably didn't see this as one of the benefits of being black. And Donovan recalled yesterday that he didn't feel terribly privileged when he was looking for a college and kept hearing from Midwestern schools about what a fine running back or defensive back he would make - guess those coaches weren't in step with the master plan of the media and the NFL to boost black QBs.

"It's sad that you've got to go to skin color. I thought we were through with that whole deal," McNabb told the Daily News yesterday, when Limbaugh's comments were relayed to him.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6894896.htm

[VermontDem2004]

20. I agree with this part

Former Eagles receiver and current radio analyst Mike Quick, speaking last night on Comcast SportsNet's "Daily News Live," said: "When 'Jimmy the Greek' had his comments that got him ousted, I think this comment is even worse than that. I think we've progressed...Rush Limbaugh is a right-wing bigot who shouldn't even be doing football."

[calimary]

50. Well, I don't know much about football, but I do recognize a

situation where you have an individual who "gets more credit than he deserves because he is" a HATEMONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This could be a beneficial thing, in that it exposes this asshole's ugly self to more people.

[FlemingsGhost]

22. I agree with one thing: Donovan McNabb is highly overrated.

However, it has far less to do with race, than it does the usual "can't-miss-kid" sports hype. There have been many, many athletes (in all pro sports) that simply haven't lived up to their expected potential.

Pigboy is just doing what he does best: obnoxiously poking and prodding in order to get a reaction. He is an entertainer, folks. I highly overrrated one, at that.

[VermontDem2004]

23. McNabb isn't overrated

2000, 3365 passing yards, 21 touchdowns to 13 int's. 77.8 QB Rating
2001, 3233 passing yards, 25 touchdowns to 12 int's. 84.3 QB Rating
2002, 2289 passing yards, 17 touchdowns to 6 int's. 86.0 QB Rating

On his career, 2,040 rushing yards on 297 attempts which equals to 6.9 yards per carry. He lead this team to two straight Conference Championships I believe and went to two Pro Bowls in 4 years. He also threw for over 60% and two touchdowns playing on a fractured ankle in a game last year.

[FlemingsGhost]

29. I stand corrected. Thank you, VermontDem.

I'll slink away now...

[Karenina]

31. How did you come to your opinion

that he was "overrated" in the first place? Please do think about it honestly and let us know. Perception is so much more powerful than FACT. My question is NOT intended to put you on the defensive. :-)

[LynneSin]

33. I think any player who isn't an Eagle is over-rated

Probably something along that same line is what denman was doing ( :hug: ).

mind you, philly has experience dealing with the crap that Rush is doing. We had Randall Cunningham and we've heard this story before. Our country is just full of close-minded assholes. You thought we would have learned our lessons after the famous question asked of Doug Williams during Superbowl week: "How long have you been a black quarterback"

:shrug:

[FlemingsGhost]

36. Initially, I thought:

Without his running prowess, McNabb is a "good" QB. (And as the years go by, that will only diminish. Injuries and time will take its toll.) His numbers are solid, but hardly merit the "greatest quarterback in the league" status. A lot of his pass effiency is because of the very fact that he is able to roll out of the pocket and take advantage of defensive lapses.

On the other hand, he *is* young. Barring serious injury, or a change in attitude, he will grow as a player and further develop his leadership qualities.(Much like when fastball pitchers begin to lose velocity, and are forced to actually learn to work the count and mix it up with offspeed movement.) That will mean championships. And in pro sports, that is where the rubber meets the road. Alas, "It don't mean a thing if you ain't got a ring."

It's obvious the potential is there, but there are no guarantees.

(on edit: typo)

[Muddleoftheroad]

41. A couple problems

One problem is that too many people who rate McNabb rate him based not on what he does to win games, but on silly ass statistics.

Football is about one thing -- winning. Trent Dilfer did enough to win with the Ravens and Brad Johnson the same with Tampa. The best stats don't always equate to a win. It's those intangibles. That's why, even though I am not a Green Bay fan, I'd take Favre if the game was on the line.

As for racism, I don't think it was and I'm black. I think Gasbag said something that was just not politically correct, which is not the same thing.

[Uzybone]

46. You may need to get your head out for your hind quarters too

it wasnt just a "not politically correct" comment. It was an idiotic comment. If you know football, which you may not..... you would know that McNabb has been one of the winningest QBs in the last 3 years, so by that measure he is one of the best.

[Uzybone]

47. Good points

but still doesnt explain why you think or thought McNabb is overrated. Does any one call him the best QB is the NFL? Not even close.

[frank frankly]

28. this is insanity

send those emails.

perhaps a protest at ESPN headquarters...any DUer's in Bristol???

I would probably drive up there to protest this racist pig.

unbelievable. unbelievable.

[maggrwaggr]

32. Rush is gonna go the way of Jimmy the Greek

gee, both fat blowhards show their true colors.

Anybody remember good ol' Jimmy?

Rush is from KKK country in Southern Missouri. I got relatives there. It don't get much more racist than that.

[metsie]

34. No big deal

Like somebody else here mentioned, Rush was hired to be controversial. I think McNabb is overrated. Don't show me stats, I've seen him play. Stats aren't everything. In the past, he would try and run the ball way too much. He needs to work on his passing game more. Quarterbacks are paid to pass, runningbacks are paid to run. When he gets some good protection from his O line, he can do a good job passing like last year when he came back after the injury. I have noticed that the media does make more hype about a QB that runs the ball himself a lot.

[RummyTheDummy]

51. You simply don't know what you're talking about....

Stick to the chess club or pottery.

[JohnKleeb]

35. agh

:puke:

[DarkPhenyx]

37. Now, keep in mind that I hate Rush...

...however his comments are not racist. Not as they are reflected in this article anyway. Inappropriate? Probably. I don't think the forum choosen was the one for this discussion, nor do I think it's really an observation that really needed to be made. I think it is far more racist to keep refering to them as "black quarterbacks" instead of just "quarterbacks". Let their merits stand alone and leave their race out of the discussion.

[javadu]

39. His Comments are Racist

Even if you believe that McNabb is overrated (I don't, but it can be argued that he is), to attribute his "overratedness" to the color of his skin is racist. McNabb has worked extremely hard and is very talented and Limbaugh has said that none of his hard work and talent matters. McNabb's success is because of the "social concern" in the NFL. It is disgusting and racist. Of course, he and all the other facists have the right to express their opinions, but ESPN needs to get a loud and clear message that he is speaking for them.

[javadu]

38. Will Rush Get Fired??!!!!

This article was posted in a LBN thread that got locked.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/nfl/09/30/bc.fbn.mcnabb.limbaugh.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

It looks to me like ESPN is loving this. Much like Franken liked it when O'Really trashed his book.

I have sent two letters to ESPN expressing my disappointment, but, if the ratings are up, I doubt they will fire butt boil.

[VolcanoJen]

42. Donovan McNabb News Conference coming up; Watts comments

Just heard on CNN that McNabb is giving a News Conference in the next hour, and Eagles coach Andy Reid will give one later today.

Former Republican congressman (and Oklahoma football star) JC Watts gave a pretty scathing indictment of Limbaugh on CNN's American Morning today, saying:

"Athletics is still the one arena, I think, that exists today where you really are judged on your merit. To say that someone's going to bring Donovan McNabb to Philadelphia and pay him over $100 million for six or seven years based on his skin color is just stupid."

Daryn Kagan (I just love her) on CNN Live Today put it thusly: "ESPN is trying this experiment by hiring Rush Limbaugh. You know, he's supposed to talk about football. It was just a matter of time before he got political. The idea of trying to pump up a black quarterback is silly. There have been so many who have been successful. Right here in Atlanta, we have Michael Vick, for example. We could go on and on... and believe me, we do, when we're not on the air!" Then, the always-excellent Leon Harris, with a disgusted look on his face, said, "You know, I'm not even going to honor his remark with a comment. I'm not even going to go there."

Let this be the beginning of the end for Rush on ESPN!!!

[angka]

43. send him packing like mike savage weiner

you let these people out of their talk radio caves, and sooner or later they will show you their true colors.

rush 'fat boy' limbaugh, meet jimmy the greek.

[RobertFrancisK]

48. What about Vick?

Vick's a badass. Warren Moon was great. Kordell's a jackass, but there have been many great black QB's in the NFL, so it's blatantly obvious that Rush is just mixing racism into a situation inwhich it has no logical foundation, like he always does. I really hope he gets fired.