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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:42 AM
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Krugman's NYT op-ed on rethug election theft: "What They Did Last Fall"
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:57 AM by paineinthearse
Cross-posted in EDITORIALS & ARTICLES forum - see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x148458

John Conyers blogs about this today - read his thoughts in GENERAL DISCUSSION POLITICS at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2019693&mesg_id=2019693

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/opinion/19krugman.html

August 19, 2005
What They Did Last Fall
By PAUL KRUGMAN

By running for the U.S. Senate, Katherine Harris, Florida's former secretary of state, has stirred up some ugly memories. And that's a good thing, because those memories remain relevant. There was at least as much electoral malfeasance in 2004 as there was in 2000, even if it didn't change the outcome. And the next election may be worse. In his recent book "Steal This Vote" - a very judicious work, despite its title - Andrew Gumbel, a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Independent, provides the best overview I've seen of the 2000 Florida vote. And he documents the simple truth: "Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."

Two different news media consortiums reviewed Florida's ballots; both found that a full manual recount would have given the election to Mr. Gore. This was true despite a host of efforts by state and local officials to suppress likely Gore votes, most notably Ms. Harris's "felon purge," which disenfranchised large numbers of valid voters. But few Americans have heard these facts. Perhaps journalists have felt that it would be divisive to cast doubt on the Bush administration's legitimacy. If so, their tender concern for the nation's feelings has gone for naught: Cindy Sheehan's supporters are camped in Crawford, and America is more bitterly divided than ever. Meanwhile, the whitewash of what happened in Florida in 2000 showed that election-tampering carries no penalty, and political operatives have acted accordingly. For example, in 2002 the Republican Party in New Hampshire hired a company to jam Democratic and union phone banks on Election Day.

And what about 2004? Mr. Gumbel throws cold water on those who take the discrepancy between the exit polls and the final result as evidence of a stolen election. (I told you it's a judicious book.) He also seems, on first reading, to play down what happened in Ohio. But the theme of his book is that America has a long, bipartisan history of dirty elections. He told me that he wasn't brushing off the serious problems in Ohio, but that "this is what American democracy typically looks like, especially in a presidential election in a battleground state that is controlled substantially by one party."

So what does U.S. democracy look like? There have been two Democratic reports on Ohio in 2004, one commissioned by Representative John Conyers Jr., the other by the Democratic National Committee. The D.N.C. report is very cautious: "The purpose of this investigation," it declares, "was not to challenge or question the results of the election in any way." It says there is no evidence that votes were transferred away from John Kerry - but it does suggest that many potential Kerry votes were suppressed. Although the Conyers report is less cautious, it stops far short of claiming that the wrong candidate got Ohio's electoral votes.

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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:48 AM
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1. They can't afford to have legitmate elections now...
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:48 AM by Postman
because the republifascists will lose and the lid will come off the entire criminal cabal.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:48 AM
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:07 PM
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:36 PM
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4. Thanks, AL
This is too important to ignore.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:57 AM
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5. Please read this, it's big
Don't understand the lack of response.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:07 AM
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7. Actually, there's plenty of response...
...it's just that people already posted them to the first two or three threads on GD about Krugman's column. You should have highlighted the Conyers response: that's the part of this thread that isn't a dupe (I think).
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:01 AM
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6. The most important subject we can address..
is FINALLY being represented in the corpomedia.. and we are all so busy in Texas and elsewhere that we aren't keeping the pressure up where it would do the MOST GOOD!!
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