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Tue Sep-30-03 01:32 PM
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Republicans Kill Shumer Amendment for Independent Investigation-update |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 02:31 PM by Q
- Daschle up now in support of Shumer amendment. Says that Ashcroft can't be expected to offer an 'independent' investigation. "As we demand of others that WE respect the rule of law."
Schumer amendment: Expresses sense of the senate that law should be upheld in the leak of CIA employee's name.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:35 PM
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:36 PM
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3. Shumer is the sponsor... |
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...and Daschle is backing him up.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:36 PM
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I for one will never forgive the Bushies for comparing him to Osama...or was it Saddam...Keep up the good fight!!
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:45 PM
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4. Schumer, Daschle and Boxer asking help from Republicans |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 01:55 PM by Q
Shumer: To reveal a covert operative is a crime...not a leak. There's a crime committed here...a serious crime. What makes it worse is that it appears to have been committed in 'malice'.
Boxer: Something outrageous. Boxer wants to be added as co-sponsor to Shumer's amendment for an independent prosecutor. Mentions that the head of the CIA asks for an investigation. The fact is whether she was an agent or analyst is not the point....she was working 'under cover'.
- Boxer, Daschle and Shumer are making a strong case. They're urging the Republicans to put aside politics to see that justice is done.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:49 PM
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5. Pay attention people...the Senate is about to vote for... |
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...an Independent Prosecutor.
- Chances are it will be a 'party line' vote. Boxer says she will 'not let this go' even if it's voted down.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:51 PM
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6. It is going to a vote - this fast? |
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:53 PM
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7. Listening to the debate now... |
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...not sure when they're going to vote on the Shumer amendment. Sounds like it's coming up soon.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:57 PM
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Schumer amendment: Expresses sense of the senate that law should be upheld in the leak of CIA employee's name.
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:59 PM
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13. Well, if Repubs vote against that |
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Are they stating that they arbitrarily feel that law should NOT be upheld in this case? That would look pretty damn stupid. (Doesn't mean they won't still do it though :()
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:56 PM
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8. Barbara Boxer said that if the repukes do not vote for this |
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amendment, then this "WILL become political". They will not let this go.
Go Barbara!!
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:56 PM
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MY lame-duck Republican Senator already said that one was warranted, so I wonder what they'll threaten him with to get him to toe the line? Kill his dog? Kidnap his kids?
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:57 PM
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10. we need a Democrat as partisan as Ken Starr |
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Tue Sep-30-03 01:57 PM
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12. I hope everyone called their sens/reps |
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We're gonna need it now. Oh please, can't we win just once?
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:00 PM
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14. The problem is that even if they vote to appoint an IP |
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they will not get a Democratic version of Kenneth Starr. They will get Kenneth Starr.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:04 PM
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16. But do the GOPers want to be on record as voting against it? |
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- Senator Durbin up now: calling for independent prosecutor' to investigate this very serious crime. The disclosure of 'such a person' can endanger lives. A decision was made within the Bush* admin to jeapordize this person and their career. Durbin is now talking about Nixon's enemy list...says this like his enemy list...trying to silence their critics.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:07 PM
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19. Maybe we'll get lucky |
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I doubt any Repub thought that (Republican) Walsh would become such a single-minded son of a bitch in his pursuit of Bush and Reagan.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:03 PM
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15. Dick Durbin is now on about the Indpt Counsel amendment |
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on the Senate floor. They are not going to let this drop.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:05 PM
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17. Durbin brought up Nixon's Enemy's List - WOW |
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says looks like bush* has one now.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:05 PM
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:12 PM
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21. I am hoping Robert Byrd will speak |
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I would love to hear what he has to say. I would also love to know who has signed on to co-sponsor this legislation.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:10 PM
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20. Durbin talking about how he was investigated for an apparent leak!! |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:12 PM
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22. He was investigated (and cleared) |
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And he ISN'T 'pissed'--- he's coldly FURIOUS! Hehehe! :P
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:13 PM
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24. Yes, he is coldly FURIOUS and it is about time the Dems really |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:13 PM
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Someone voices doubts about Ashcroft's impartiality. Dick is pure gold!
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:15 PM
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(Not the first time I've said it!) :)
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:21 PM
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"...and I doubt Attorney General Ashcroft is up to the job." :)
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:51 PM
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He savaged Asscrack in his confirmation hearings, and neither of them has ever forgotten it! :evilgrin:
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:15 PM
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He's using this to recite a litany of Bush's failings as president. Fantastic!
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:14 PM
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Are the Repubs still hiding with Cheney?
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:16 PM
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28. The bunker better have rubber walls |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:19 PM
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:16 PM
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29. Durbin just said the after bush's* speech about the $87B the |
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American people finally woke up!! He is bashing bush* big time.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:21 PM
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31. Now the repukes are up and are changing the subject to the DC |
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voucher bill. Idiots. Of course they do not want to talk about the Wilson affair.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:21 PM
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33. Republicans have 58 minutes to 'debate' (oppose)... |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 02:25 PM by Q
...this amendment and the Dems have about 8 minutes left.
- Reid of Nevada up now. Reid calling it 'retaliation' for Wilson opposing Bush*. "Loose lips sink ships". Says if we need a independent prosecutor to investigate 'land deal' then certainly this deserves the same attention.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:22 PM
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34. now Harry Reid D Nevada on now back on the Wilson issue!! |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:26 PM
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35. 3 1/2 minutes for the opposition (that's us)! |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:27 PM
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36. Reid asks for 'up or down' vote... |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:28 PM
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38. Reid wants an up and down vote on the amendment, not a point of order, |
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says American people deserve to know who wants the Indp Counsel and who does not.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:27 PM
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The pukes are going to block this. Traitors!
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:30 PM
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...has a 'lot of confidence' in the DOJ and FBI investigating.
- The AMENDMENT FALLS. Republican point of order: not germane.
- That's the end of it boys and girls. The GOP coverup continues.
- The debate changes to other issues.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:29 PM
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39. KKKarl is testing Senate R's |
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to be sure no vertabrae arise in place of the usual jelly.
Expect many weak knees, but there's a chance this could rain on their reelect. Any moderate R's up next fall? They better watch out.
Same thing happening with the media. It's time to come to Jesus, or lurk in the shadows. History is watching.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:29 PM
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40. That's it! The ammendment was just killed! |
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ASSHOLE PUKES! I can't stand these guys any more. They are so obviously against democracy.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:31 PM
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43. They just can't put down that bigger shovel. |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:29 PM
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41. Amendment just failed. No surprise there. |
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The Dems will be back on this. It will not go away.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:35 PM
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44. so please somebody tell this confused simpleton here .... |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 02:37 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
what happened???? did they deny the motion??? or was it posponed till 3:45 when schummer returns???
or is it all over...FAILED??? phuck me twice!!!!!
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:41 PM
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46. We will have to wait unitl Schumer comes back at 3:45 to see what |
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he will do next. Not quite sure what will happen, but we do need to do this with every bill brought up.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:40 PM
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45. Dems should do as Repubs do on judges and keep attaching this to every |
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:42 PM
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47. We'll start a petition |
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give us an hour...
btw--what was the vote count?
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:46 PM
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49. There was no vote...or count... |
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...the Republicans objected that the amendment was not 'germane' to the bill it was attached to. That stopped the debate.
- I can't see how the Dems can get such a thing passed when there are so many RWing zealots in the Senate. GOPers in the senate do what's good for the Republican party...not the people.
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Tue Sep-30-03 02:45 PM
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48. OK, Republicans do not support upholding the law. |
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That was not news to me, but it's going to be news to the next Republican I talk to.
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