Will Marshall, NDOL site, Blast from the Past. Putting down activists.

[madfloridian]

I hate it when our Democrats poke fun at us for opposing the war.

Blast from the Past

SNIP...."This enraged "peace activists," who passionately and sincerely believe they speak for most Democrats. They are passionately and sincerely wrong: McGovernism is a distinctly minority view in the party, held mainly by left-leaning activists who have disproportionate influence in caucus states like Iowa. Polls show that two-thirds of Democrats (and more than three-fourths of all Americans) approve of the second Persian Gulf War. And lest we forget, McGovern himself suffered the worst landslide defeat in U.S. history, carrying only Massachusetts and the District of Columbia and winning only 38 percent of the national vote against Richard Nixon.

To win next year, Democrats need to return to their real national security tradition -- one that's tough enough to keep Americans safe and smart enough to build alliances and institutions that make the world safer for democracy......"

[GainesT1958]

1. When did he write this? Back in April, maybe?

He could've written the same thing about Viet Nam in, say, early 1967. I'd say his "Credibility Gap Quotient" is a little short these days!:eyes:

Those "Brutus" Lieberman appologists over at the DLC desperately need to get with the program--even a retired four-star general doesn't agree with Iraq now! :mad:

B-)

[fla nocount]

2. Hey Putz boy.

There's nothing passive about activism. Wanna step out in the street?
Democrats need a clear alternative to turn out, not business as usual. The closer we get to the primaries the more sense ol' ambulance chaser Nader makes to me, there is no difference between the parties. The DLC/DNC factions are what will kill the party and lose the election. Black or white, good or evil, sweet or sour? Nobody gets excited about gray.

[JohnKleeb]

3. McGovernism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

George was and is a great guy and they spew this at us, I try not to hate the DLC but this is pushing it. Hes still alive too, he should give them hell.

[madfloridian]

4. And from Al From....The Real Soul of the Democratic Party

The Real Soul of the Democratic Party

SNIP...."Not only is the activist wing out of line with Democratic tradition, but it is badly out of touch with the Democratic rank-and-file. In 1996, a survey by the Washington Post compared the views of delegates to the Democratic convention to those of registered Democratic voters. The delegates perfectly mirrored the Democratic electorate in terms of race, ethnicity, and gender. But they could not have been more different when it came to class and education. Democratic delegates were nearly five times more likely than Democratic rank-and-file to have incomes over $75,000, three times more likely to have a college degree, and over four times more likely to have done postgraduate work. No wonder that when the New Yorker recently asked Karl Rove to describe the Democratic base, he said, "somebody with a doctorate."

SNIP...."But the great myth of the current cycle is the misguided notion that the hopes and dreams of activists represent the heart and soul of the Democratic Party. Real Democrats are real people, not activist elites. The mission of the Democratic Party, as Bill Clinton pledged in 1992, is to provide "real answers to the real problems of real people." Real Democrats who champion the mainstream values, national pride, and economic aspirations of middle-class and working people are the real soul of the Democratic Party, not activists and interest groups with narrow agendas....."

I never thought of myself as an activist elite, just someone who cares about our country. Just someone who hates it when lies take us to war with the party's blessing.